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She was this fully capable woman who was kicking ass in her role. Only to immediately fall into the bed of the driver.

The only other woman was a bumbling idiot of a pit crew member.

There's just been such a push in F1 to change perceptions around women in racing, and this is the flying in the exact opposite direction.

Bechdel test was easy on this one.
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Good movie. Race scenes were really intense and entertaining but did require some suspended disbelief RE: the actual sport.

To me it was basically Top Gun: Maverick with F1 cars instead of jets. Which is a big compliment
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I haven't seen any outright negative reviews yet.
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Agador Spartacus said:

She was this fully capable woman who was kicking ass in her role. Only to immediately fall into the bed of the driver.

The only other woman was a bumbling idiot of a pit crew member.

There's just been such a push in F1 to change perceptions around women in racing, and this is the flying in the exact opposite direction.

Bechdel test was easy on this one.


He was a total badass, handsome Alpha male that looked like Brad Pitt. He's exactly what women want whether they want to admit or not.

The other girl was fairly new to the sport and redeemed herself and got really good. That seemed realistic to me to have a new girl in a man's sport be a bit intimidated at first.

I see no issues here at all.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

I haven't seen any outright negative reviews yet.

I've seen quite a few people commenting on the simplicity of the plot, there are a ton of F1 fans complaining about how ridiculous/inaccurate the actual racing stuff is, and there's someone in this very thread complaining about the romance angle, which I've seen echoed elsewhere as well.

Granted, none of these things seem to matter to critics (or me), but the meme isn't really geared toward critics. It's a commentary on all the twitter discourse.

Otherwise, it's just a joke.
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TCTTS said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

I haven't seen any outright negative reviews yet.

I've seen quite a few people commenting on the simplicity of the plot, there are a ton of F1 fans complaining about how ridiculous/inaccurate the actual racing stuff is, and there's someone in this very thread complaining about the romance angle, which I've seen echoed elsewhere as well.

Granted, none of these things seem to matter to critics (or me), but the meme isn't really geared toward critics. It's a commentary on all the twitter discourse.

Otherwise, it's just a joke.
I'm with you on your original post reviewing it.
For as much as I love prestige film, I also love movies like this.
I don't need everything to be grim and dramatic, just do what you are good at.
Great visuals, great sound, great actors in the film clearly enjoying themselves. Its a summer blockbuster
We can like both kinds of movies, and we should.

I've also liked Kerry Condon since Rome, so its fun to see her get bigger roles (this and Bansees of Inishirin)
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As a non-F1 fan I loved it. Super fun movie. If you have any desire at all to see it, go see it now on the big screen. Don't wait for streaming.
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Just got out of a 4-D showing and it was everything you could want in a summer movie with the family. Just a fun time.
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actually found the romance angle refreshing because it was pretty minor and not a major detractor from the film overall and their motivations as characters.
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One thing that made me chuckle was the Mexico race. Of course as soon as we're in CDMX, everything is Breaking Bad yellow.

Hollywood's obsession with this continues to amuse me.
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Agreed. This movie is a good summer blockbuster with incredible action racing scenes.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

One thing that made me chuckle was the Mexico race. Of course as soon as we're in CDMX, everything is Breaking Bad yellow.

Hollywood's obsession with this continues to amuse me.

Took a trip to Mexico last Summer and can confirm that everything there does, in fact, have a yellow tint.
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Has no one else been on a high school mission trip?
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I am from Mexico.

I can assure you everything does not instantly turn yellow the second you cross the border.
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I think I'm unaware of this yellow tint thing for Mexico.
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Agador Spartacus said:

She was this fully capable woman who was kicking ass in her role. Only to immediately fall into the bed of the driver.

The only other woman was a bumbling idiot of a pit crew member.

There's just been such a push in F1 to change perceptions around women in racing, and this is the flying in the exact opposite direction.

Bechdel test was easy on this one.
Bro... you left out the mom. That was a pretty significant role.

I'm somewhat sensitive to the whole woman succeeding in a man's world narrative due to two lines of work that I've been in for the past 30+ years.

1 - US Army Tanker - 0.0% females during my time in service in the 1990s. It think it was around 2016 when they opened that career field to females. I don't know how many women are in it now but, I'm sure it's far fewer than 10%.
2 - Information Technology Infrastructure - Hardware / Software - 5% females, 95% males (I have receipts if you want to see them).

With respect to Formula 1, I'd guess it's somewhere between being a Tanker, or being in IT. So, maybe 3% female.

With 20 drivers, 3% gives you 0 drivers.
With 10 teams, 3% gives you 0 Team Principals, Chief Engineers, etc., etc., etc.
22 pit crew @ 3% gives you 2/3 of a female pit crewmember - so having one is legit

My experience with females in male dominated careers is:
20-25% are lesbians - so that takes them out of the male romantic pursuit
Almost all of them are really good at their job, at least as good or better than half the men. And if you really want to dig in to it, the Indian females are almost always better than half the Indian men. But I digress.

Did they play up the miscues by the rookie female crew member? Sure. But as mentioned in the movie. It is a team sport and she pulled it together. I thought the development and progression was good for her character.

At least she didn't have a septum ring purple hair and neck tats. On the other side of the coin, she didn't have double Ds and a bunch of scenes in a low cut top. She was just kind of normal.

Back to women in a male dominated career field. Do the handful of females get romantically involved with the males? I'd say yes, about 50% of the time - again, my experience, your mileage may vary.

Me personally, I have far more gay guys hit on me than females but, I've had a couple of females at work who didn't want to take no for an answer and believe me, I don't have Brad Pitt's looks and in this movie - raw masculinity. If you're a girl who likes boys, I can see the attraction. Does it happen IRL? All the time.

Anyway, back to your critique, you want F1 realism but you also didn't like the actions of the females with significant roles in the movie.

I would liked to have seen the girls/women who are actually around F1 in real life.

I've attended the Singapore F1 race twice (2018 & 2019) and I saw plenty of trophy wives and promo girls. Unfortunately this movie was lacking in both of those departments.

To promote more women and a real F1 experience, they could have at least included a post-race BABYMETAL concert, right?
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Saw it in IMAX yesterday and thought it was awesome. The racing sequences were unreal, it's going to be tough to ever top that.
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This movie followed the Top Gun formula pretty closely. As someone who has tired of superhero movies, I am glad to see that this one looks to perform well. Saw it yesterday and it was great.
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I was also expecting them to make the newbie crew member try to be a love interest from JP, so they weren't as cliche as they could have been.
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PatAg said:

I was also expecting them to make the newbie crew member try to be a love interest from JP, so they weren't as cliche as they could have been.

I talked to a friend who saw an early version of the movie and JP actually did have a love interest who was cut, played by Simone Ashley from Bridgerton. She was apparently involved with the press, covering F1 in whatever capacity, so she was on the circuit as well, and they would hook up at every city/race. Glad they cut her character, though, as it sounded like their relationship wasn't developed very well, the plot line was too much of a distraction, and lent nothing to JP's overall character arc.
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Unless it was fake, I read yesterday that Kosinski has kicked around (serious or not) that F2 would be a cross over with Cruise's Cole Trickle from Days of Thunder and Sonny from F1 in order to team up Cruise and Pitt one more time.
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It was a real quote, but probably not a serious idea, as it sounds like Cruise is developing a true Days of Thunder sequel separately. Who knows, though. Anything could happen.
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veryfuller said:

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F3 "Tokyo Drift"
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Give me Pitt/Sonny in the Baja 1000!
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Really want to see this movie
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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Saw this tonight and it was probably the best movie I've seen this year. Really good. Brad Pitt delivers like always.
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Didn't they have issues on vampire movie set ? Bradley and Tommy?
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Was very pleasantly surprised at the Representation in the film, despite the sport being traditionally Euro-centric, and despite Pitt "anchoring" the film.

Hoping the sequel offers more in-depth character studies, and far more screen time, for Idris, Hamilton, and Ashley.
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I'm taking the wife to this Thursday after work. We've never had any interest in racing, but I did love Top Gun Maverick so hoping for something along those lines. Wasn't actually going to see this in the theater, but based in no small part on this thread, I changed my mind on seeing it. So if the wife hates it, I'm blaming you guys.
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Is she not a fan of Brad Pitt?! Most women I've talked to enjoyed it simply to gawk at Brad for 2.5 hours!
 
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