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I have what might be silly question. I usually use the local library to check-out books, which I realize is probably very old school these days (lol). I have been wanting to start some of the older Bernard Cornwell series, but my library does not carry them (even in Libby or Hoopla formats). Where do you guys get these books or how do you usually purchase them? I think a lot of people probably have Kindles, but I still Haven't yet bought myself one.


Hoopla has the complete Saxon Stories (now called The Last Kingdom series, fyi) and it looks the Sharpe series as well, in both ebook and audiobook. That's where I read the Saxon Stories and after just checking I still see them in there.

I'm not 100% sure how Hoopla works, but I assume their content of books is available for any user, no matter what local library they're technically connected to. But I could be wrong of course.

And I'm still an old school library user as well, lol. I'm nerdy excited that I'm first on the list for A Parade of Horribles (I'm actually the one who requested the library order it).
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I've found that you can find almost any book by searching Google for the title + pdf. Here's an example:

I searched "Bernard Cornwell PDF" and got this:

https://archive.org/details/sharpestrafalgar0000bern/page/n5/mode/1up
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In reply to FL_Ag1998 • 5:44p, 3/18/26
Jack Whyte's Camulod Chronicles are really good. Stephen Lawhead's Pendragon Cycle is excellent. My personal favorite is TS Eliot's The Once and Future King. If you haven't read it, you really should.
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Thanks for pointing this out. I see some listings for Hoopla on my local library's catalog, but they do not have many of Cornwell's works listed and only a few random books (most just audio). I would prefer to use my eyes and not my ears on books as I just am more of a visual person, so I think I might just have to call or go by to ask if they have the full series of Cornwell's works or not. I've never used Hoopla at all, so maybe I just need to create an account and check there.

I'm glad I'm not the only old school paper book junkie here (lol). I really need to purchase a Kindle, which I have considered doing in the past, but just haven't taken the time/money to do.
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Wolfpac 08 said:
I've found that you can find almost any book by searching Google for the title + pdf. Here's an example:

I searched "Bernard Cornwell PDF" and got this:

https://archive.org/details/sharpestrafalgar0000bern/page/n5/mode/1up

Wow - I'm surprised that's available in PDF so freely. Surely some authors won't approve of their full works being fully accessible without them getting any royalties. Maybe there's something I'm missing, but these seems like Napster for books or something (lol).
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In reply to Ag12thman • 5:58p, 3/18/26
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Ag12thman said:
Thanks for pointing this out. I see some listings for Hoopla on my local library's catalog, but they do not have many of Cornwell's works listed and only a few random books (most just audio). I would prefer to use my eyes and not my ears on books as I just am more of a visual person, so I think I might just have to call or go by to ask if they have the full series of Cornwell's works or not. I've never used Hoopla at all, so maybe I just need to create an account and check there.

I'm glad I'm not the only old school paper book junkie here (lol). I really need to purchase a Kindle, which I have considered doing in the past, but just haven't taken the time/money to do.


Ahh, ok, I think I see the issue now. Definitely create a Hoopla account and just search for the books on there rather than assuming they'll show up as a link on your library's website. And I'd recommend getting a Kindle. Your library will have other ebook options for books that won't be on Hoopla but instead come through as a download in Kindle
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Ag12thman said:
Thanks for pointing this out. I see some listings for Hoopla on my local library's catalog, but they do not have many of Cornwell's works listed and only a few random books (most just audio). I would prefer to use my eyes and not my ears on books as I just am more of a visual person, so I think I might just have to call or go by to ask if they have the full series of Cornwell's works or not. I've never used Hoopla at all, so maybe I just need to create an account and check there.

I'm glad I'm not the only old school paper book junkie here (lol). I really need to purchase a Kindle, which I have considered doing in the past, but just haven't taken the time/money to do.


Ahh, ok, I think I see the issue now. Definitely create a Hoopla account and just search for the books on there rather than assuming they'll show up as a link on your library's website. And I'd recommend getting a Kindle. Your library will have other ebook options for books that won't be on Hoopla but instead come through as a download in Kinda.

Great advice - thank you for all of that. I will see what I can do about Hoopla. I don't really have a device to use it on right now. I have the largest-sized smartphone available, but not sure I can read book text on it. I might need to look into a Kindle (finally) before trying Hoopla. Thanks for your help!!
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In reply to Ag12thman • 6:10p, 3/18/26
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Ag12thman said:
I have what might be silly question. I usually use the local library to check-out books, which I realize is probably very old school these days (lol). I have been wanting to start some of the older Bernard Cornwell series, but my library does not carry them (even in Libby or Hoopla formats). Where do you guys get these books or how do you usually purchase them? I think a lot of people probably have Kindles, but I still Haven't yet bought myself one.


You can get the Kindle app on your phone. I pretty much exclusively use it to do all my reading
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Any suggestions for free or discount credits on audible or other sources to listen?

Gotten into the habit of listening in the car. About to run out of all the credits I had accumulated.
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In reply to Absolute • 6:29p, 3/18/26
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Any suggestions for free or discount credits on audible or other sources to listen?

Gotten into the habit of listening in the car. About to run out of all the credits I had accumulated.


Spotify primary user gets 15 hours per month.
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Any suggestions for free or discount credits on audible or other sources to listen?

Gotten into the habit of listening in the car. About to run out of all the credits I had accumulated.

Local Library in conjunction with Libby and/or Hoopla
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Any suggestions for free or discount credits on audible or other sources to listen?

Gotten into the habit of listening in the car. About to run out of all the credits I had accumulated.


What I do is go on Amazon on my laptop (has to be the browser version of Amazon; this feature doesn't show up any other way).

Find the book I want. You'll see usually something like:
Kindle - $14.79
Audible - $27.00 ($0 with membership)
Paperback - $12.75
Hardback - $1,200.00

If you click the Kindle box and scroll down a little bit you see a small checkbox that says "Add Whispersynch Audio" usually for like $3-5 extra.

Use that and you get the Audible book along with the Kindle version for $20 ; whereas you'd have to pay $45-50 for them separately or $30 for the audible alone....

I'll see if I can screen grab an example later today when I'm at work.

Browser mode on my phone (not the Amazon App, Kindle App, or Audible App)



...

Also I am pretty sure you can loan your digital copies out to friends ; maybe we can start something like that here...
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Wolfpac 08 said:
I've found that you can find almost any book by searching Google for the title + pdf. Here's an example:

I searched "Bernard Cornwell PDF" and got this:

https://archive.org/details/sharpestrafalgar0000bern/page/n5/mode/1up

Wow - I'm surprised that's available in PDF so freely. Surely some authors won't approve of their full works being fully accessible without them getting any royalties. Maybe there's something I'm missing, but these seems like Napster for books or something (lol).

I have very strong opinions on this.

It's not legal. Internet Archive was already sued and lost. There are several issues with what they have done.

  • The obtain and scan books then lend them out to people, reportedly only one at a time. The issue they faced is that they created an eBook (when one is commercially available) when only purchasing a physical book. That was found to be a copyright violation.
  • During COVID they removed all restrictions on their lending program and allowed anyone to download or check out a book with no restrictions on the number of copies they extended at any given time. That is also a copyright violation.
  • They still lend out digital versions of books if no eBook is available. When a book is lent out, it is supposed to have access removed but as the link above show, they have very poor controls.
They also provide a ton of public domain books which is great. The biggest issue I see is that they don't feel they should have to abide by any sort of copyright law. They advocate for free and universal access to all knowledge which sounds great until you realize it screws over the people that create these books.

If you want to read a book by an author and can afford to purchase it, you should be doing so. Using sites like the above takes money away from authors. If you can't afford it, there are plenty of legitimate ways to access a book at no cost to you through your local library. Checking a book, eBook, or audiobook out from your local library is actually very beneficial to an author. It makes them money and shows more demand for their books to their publishers. If a book is very popular, libraries will purchase additional copies and there is now a verifiable way to show how many people are checking books out. When you pirate it, that demand is lost. That matters when it's time for the author's next books contract. It allows to push for more money so they can continue to write books that people will love and enjoy. It can also affect things like earn out bonuses. If an author earns out their advance within the first year, there is often a bonus paid by their publisher.

The truth is for majority of authors, writing is a side gig. It doesn't pay the bills like you might think and most have a full time or second job. So when you are stealing books from place like internet archive you are doing a huge disservice to the author
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So reading/istening books from libby, listening on spotify, does help the authors?

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Ag12thman said:
I have what might be silly question. I usually use the local library to check-out books, which I realize is probably very old school these days (lol). I have been wanting to start some of the older Bernard Cornwell series, but my library does not carry them (even in Libby or Hoopla formats). Where do you guys get these books or how do you usually purchase them? I think a lot of people probably have Kindles, but I still Haven't yet bought myself one.


You can get the Kindle app on your phone. I pretty much exclusively use it to do all my reading

Thanks for this and I have thought of it, but keep thinking the font is going to be too small to see well. I guess that's not the case (especially if I'm older and have to use cheaters/magnifying glasses)?
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Thanks for sharing all of that and that's totally what I was thinking when I posted about it. I just can't fathom how that is even legal and it certainly is not helping the authors who have poured so much of their time and life and talents into these great works we get the pleasure of reading. I would rather pay for what I read, honestly. I just put myself in the author's place. I wouldn't like it if my books were out there like free pamphlets to access and read by anyone without any royalties whatsoever for me. So, I totally agree and you make some great points in this post. Thanks!
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Thunder18 said:
Ag12thman said:
I have what might be silly question. I usually use the local library to check-out books, which I realize is probably very old school these days (lol). I have been wanting to start some of the older Bernard Cornwell series, but my library does not carry them (even in Libby or Hoopla formats). Where do you guys get these books or how do you usually purchase them? I think a lot of people probably have Kindles, but I still Haven't yet bought myself one.


You can get the Kindle app on your phone. I pretty much exclusively use it to do all my reading

Thanks for this and I have thought of it, but keep thinking the font is going to be too small to see well. I guess that's not the case (especially if I'm older and have to use cheaters/magnifying glasses)?


The font size is totally adjustable in the app. My phone isn't my first choice for reading, but I will use at work when I need to take a break and want to knock out a few pages on my most recent book.
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Ag12thman said:
Thunder18 said:
Ag12thman said:
I have what might be silly question. I usually use the local library to check-out books, which I realize is probably very old school these days (lol). I have been wanting to start some of the older Bernard Cornwell series, but my library does not carry them (even in Libby or Hoopla formats). Where do you guys get these books or how do you usually purchase them? I think a lot of people probably have Kindles, but I still Haven't yet bought myself one.


You can get the Kindle app on your phone. I pretty much exclusively use it to do all my reading

Thanks for this and I have thought of it, but keep thinking the font is going to be too small to see well. I guess that's not the case (especially if I'm older and have to use cheaters/magnifying glasses)?


You can definitely change the font size, use dark mode, highlight text, bookmark, etc... it's very convenient especially when travelling!
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Yes!

Those sites have to purchase licenses to lend those books. Initially an eBook license was limited to a specific number of checkouts tied to what the theoretical number of checkouts a physical book could last. For most books that's about 25-30 times before the physical book would just fall apart from use. That model has largely gone away and libraries have to pay an annual license fee for each digital copy it has. Depending on the book, it can cost a library $40-$60 per digital copy of an eBook. For audiobooks it's often higher, like $75. That allows the library to check that digital book out to one person at a time for and unlimited amount of times.


Authors often get a larger percentage of royalties from eBooks and audiobooks. They might make say 10% on a physical book but maybe 12%-15% on a digital book. If a library is seeing a lot of hold for a particular book, they will buy additional licenses to accommodate the demand for their patrons.

I know it seems a bit counterintuitive, but authors love libraries. All the major publishers have specific divisions that cater just to the library market. Texas actually has one of the largest and healthiest library markets in the country. Texas is one of the few states that has a massive library conference every year (TLA). Its such a big deal it almost rivals the American Library Association conferences. If an author can get into a lot of Texas Libraries, it can make a huge impact on the success of the book. Especially at the kids level. Make the Bluebonnet list? Man you are sitting pretty.
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Ag12thman said:
Thanks for sharing all of that and that's totally what I was thinking when I posted about it. I just can't fathom how that is even legal and it certainly is not helping the authors who have poured so much of their time and life and talents into these great works we get the pleasure of reading. I would rather pay for what I read, honestly. I just put myself in the author's place. I wouldn't like it if my books were out there like free pamphlets to access and read by anyone without any royalties whatsoever for me. So, I totally agree and you make some great points in this post. Thanks!

I am very biased. My wife has been successful enough to write full time and I work for a large publisher. But so many of my author friends still work other jobs because writing doesn't pay the bills. When she was first starting out, her books were pirated and it was so frustrating. She was a newbie author that didn't have tons of sales and I still financially supported us while she worked full time as an assistant librarian.

Her second book was a hit and it wasn't until she wrote her 3rd or 4th book that we felt comfortable with her quitting her job.

I get not being able to afford books, I really do. But there are ways around it that still let you read or listen to a book for free and still support the author.
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That's great. I will just start with the Kindle app on my phone then. I have the Samsung Ultra, which I believe still has their largest screen on a cell phone, so I may not even need to buy a Kindle. I appreciate all the details and advice (both from you and Thunder and the others). Thanks again!
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That's great. I will just start with the Kindle app on my phone then. I have the Samsung Ultra, which I believe still has their largest screen on a cell phone, so I may not even need to buy a Kindle. I appreciate all the details and advice (both from you and Thunder and the others). Thanks again!


If you are a reader, spring for the paperwhite kindle. Think they are still less than 100 bucks. You won't regret it.
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Ag12thman said:
Thanks for sharing all of that and that's totally what I was thinking when I posted about it. I just can't fathom how that is even legal and it certainly is not helping the authors who have poured so much of their time and life and talents into these great works we get the pleasure of reading. I would rather pay for what I read, honestly. I just put myself in the author's place. I wouldn't like it if my books were out there like free pamphlets to access and read by anyone without any royalties whatsoever for me. So, I totally agree and you make some great points in this post. Thanks!

I am very biased. My wife has been successful enough to write full time and I work for a large publisher. But so many of my author friends still work other jobs because writing doesn't pay the bills. When she was first starting out, her books were pirated and it was so frustrating. She was a newbie author that didn't have tons of sales and I still financially supported us while she worked full time as an assistant librarian.

Her second book was a hit and it wasn't until she wrote her 3rd or 4th book that we felt comfortable with her quitting her job.

I get not being able to afford books, I really do. But there are ways around it that still let you read or listen to a book for free and still support the author.


I hundred percent support writers and would never pirate. I often purchase kindle unlimited books from authors I like to try and better support them.


Would only use an audio book service that was like a library
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Ag12thman said:
Thanks for sharing all of that and that's totally what I was thinking when I posted about it. I just can't fathom how that is even legal and it certainly is not helping the authors who have poured so much of their time and life and talents into these great works we get the pleasure of reading. I would rather pay for what I read, honestly. I just put myself in the author's place. I wouldn't like it if my books were out there like free pamphlets to access and read by anyone without any royalties whatsoever for me. So, I totally agree and you make some great points in this post. Thanks!

I am very biased. My wife has been successful enough to write full time and I work for a large publisher. But so many of my author friends still work other jobs because writing doesn't pay the bills. When she was first starting out, her books were pirated and it was so frustrating. She was a newbie author that didn't have tons of sales and I still financially supported us while she worked full time as an assistant librarian.

Her second book was a hit and it wasn't until she wrote her 3rd or 4th book that we felt comfortable with her quitting her job.

I get not being able to afford books, I really do. But there are ways around it that still let you read or listen to a book for free and still support the author.

I don't think you are biased at all, but I know you are basically saying you and your wife are directly affected by the pirating of works. But, seriously, everything you have said is exactly what I would want if I or my wife were authors. This is an author's job and probably none are in it pro bono. Others enjoyment of their works should come at a price, just like any song any artist records and releases should. I am planning to only use the avenues you outlined above to pay for (either directly or via libraries or other e-services that pay the licensing fee, as you outlined) what I choose to read. Thanks for all the input and I am totally on your side (and I think most people here likely are). I wish your wife continued great success with book sales and also the best to you in your publishing work. Thanks again!
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Absolute said:
Ag12thman said:
That's great. I will just start with the Kindle app on my phone then. I have the Samsung Ultra, which I believe still has their largest screen on a cell phone, so I may not even need to buy a Kindle. I appreciate all the details and advice (both from you and Thunder and the others). Thanks again!

If you are a reader, spring for the paperwhite kindle. Think they are still less than 100 bucks. You won't regret it.

I am a reader, but probably don't get to read as many here. I will check out this paperwhite Kindle regardless. I definitely need to get into the electronic aspect of reading. I'm still way too old school hardbacks and paperbacks (lol). Less than $100 is nothing these days. Thanks for the recommendation!
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Thunder18 said:
Ag12thman said:
I have what might be silly question. I usually use the local library to check-out books, which I realize is probably very old school these days (lol). I have been wanting to start some of the older Bernard Cornwell series, but my library does not carry them (even in Libby or Hoopla formats). Where do you guys get these books or how do you usually purchase them? I think a lot of people probably have Kindles, but I still Haven't yet bought myself one.


You can get the Kindle app on your phone. I pretty much exclusively use it to do all my reading

Thanks for this and I have thought of it, but keep thinking the font is going to be too small to see well. I guess that's not the case (especially if I'm older and have to use cheaters/magnifying glasses)?


i only read on my phone and have readers and can control the font size if i don't have them.

the book is with me all the time. waiting at the store?
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Spouse started reading Stormlight Archive and asked me midway through Words of Radiance, "When are they gonna stop emotionally assaulting my boy (Kaladin)?"

Oh buddy...

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I use a Kindle and my phone to read for the most part. Anytime I have a bit of nothing to do, waiting at a doctors office, kids practices & rehearsals, lunch. I do like the text size options other options. I also like that it syncs up with audible if I have the book since I drive quite a bit.

As far as what I'm reading now. Just finished An Academic Affair by Jodi McAlister and reread of Warbreaker by Sanderson.

Looking at possible Project Hail Mary even though I'm not big on Sci Fi. My brother keeps urging me to try it. I dont plan on watching the film at the moment.
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I use my phone if I am out and about. But at home my kindle is as likely or more as my phone to be in my hand or beside me. Family probably makes fun of it, though by now I am sure it is just normal to them.

Years ago I used a tablet to read thinking it was the same. With as much as I read, eye strain actually became a thing and noticeable. The paperwhite got rid of it. Not sure how the tech works, but it does. That and the fact that my whole library is always at hand in that little device or my phone is pretty cool.
Bonus that kindle books are generally less expensive and things like kindle unlimited are available.
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I'm on a Stephen King fix for whatever reason. Read 11/22/1963 and Misery. Currently reading Salem's Lot. Any "must read" books from him you recommend I go to next?
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Almost halfway through Jay Kristoff's 'Empire of the Dawn'. 3rd book of a completed fantasy vampire trilogy. So far pretty fun read! It's like if Blade was set in medieval times.
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I'm on a Stephen King fix for whatever reason. Read 11/22/1963 and Misery. Currently reading Salem's Lot. Any "must read" books from him you recommend I go to next?

4 Season has the novellas that Stand by Me and Shawshank Redemption were based on.
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If you haven't read The Shining, I would highly recommend. Jumped into my top 5 King books. Also Pet Semetary and Misery were great. These are all relatively quick reads.

If you have the stamina for them, It and The Stand are both amazing novels. Considering you were willing to take on 11/22/63, these shouldn't be an issue.

For what I'd consider less traditional King, Billy Summers and Fairytale were also really good.

Honorable mention to Carrie.

I'm a big King fan but haven't even scratched the surface of his full catalogue. I've considered taking a year to read just King novels and see how many I can get through.
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Revival is really good too
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I love the Talisman and Black House. I had no idea that a last book was being released in the fall, or was evening being worked on, super excited, already pre-ordered. https://www.amazon.com/Other-Worlds-Than-These-Talisman/dp/1668233096
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