Is it normal for the judge to be such a long-winded blowhard?

Muy said:

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Is it normal for the judge to be such a long-winded blowhard?

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Not unusual, but not necessarily typical. There was no doubt that this particular judge would do so for this case.

This feels personal.

Muy said:

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Is it normal for the judge to be such a long-winded blowhard?

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I was about to ask the same thing. Talk about kicking a man when he's down. Good lord.

The cop behind him is satisfied

Sentenced to 2 consecutive life sentences.

redcrayon said:

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This feels personal.

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I think it somewhat is. He knows him, and his family as well as in the same profession. Hits close to home for everyone in the area. Small town.

johnnyblaze36 said:

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Muy said:

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Is it normal for the judge to be such a long-winded blowhard?

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I was about to ask the same thing. Talk about kicking a man when he's down. Good lord.

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It seemed totally uncalled for to drag that out

Judge's son died suddenly recently was well.

No one from AM's family spoke on his behalf. Not sure if it isn't allowed or if he told them not to...

Muy said:

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Is it normal for the judge to be such a long-winded blowhard?

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I think it's just further proving how hated this guy and his family were.

aggiehawg said:

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Judge just admitted he has doubts that it may not have been Alex who killed them?

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LOL.

Corn Pop said:

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Muy said:

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Is it normal for the judge to be such a long-winded blowhard?

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I think it's just further proving how hated this guy and his family were.

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His family wasn't hated.

This whole family, their history, and these murders is the biggest story of fall from grace that I can remember.

redcrayon said:

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This feels personal.

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I talked to a lady who lives in South Carolina the other day and casually floated out that we're all watching their drama unfold on TV. She worked in the AG's office at one point and knows Waters...her dad crossed paths with Alex's dad and grandfather doing business over the years as she's originally from Low Country.

She thought the jury would vote NG purely out of fear. She said in those 2 main counties down there, as crazy as it may sound to us....every single person knows that family, every single person has been affected one way or another personally or professionally, good and bad by that family, often bad, and the amount of stuff they have gotten away with for generations is wild.

She has no doubt he killed them but she wasn't going to believe they'd find him guilty for fear of what might happen to them down the road. She said their property is so big that there's no chance anyone would ever be able to process it all and if he dumped those guns and clothes and any other evidence in Pluff mud which is all over down there, they'll never see the light of day again.

lunchbox said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Judge just admitted he has doubts that it may not have been Alex who killed them?

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LOL.

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Are you laughing that hawg, yet again, only heard what she wanted to hear?

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In her defense she probably hit Post on that before the judge got around to giving his explanation. One of the downfalls of trying to "live post" things.

Not a Bot said:

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Big Al 1992 said:

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Financial Crime Victim's attorney (for about 10 of them) just said what really can't be argued against - why would you lie to law enforcement about the last time you saw your family alive if you were truly concerned about finding the person who actually did it.

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It has happened before. People get things wrong after experiencing trauma. Some people block entire hours out of their memory following traumatic situations. I was surprised he admitted to it on the stand. May have been better off saying he had no memory of it. I agree that was the best evidence the state had.

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some people aren't drug addicts,

some people don't use their power and connections to do everything to keep their family members from getting busted for their crimes

some people are not habitual liars

some people don't try to pin negligent homicide on an innocent kid

some people don't murder their wife and kid

Pretty much every PI attorney I've ever known is a democrat. It's more about tort reform than actual political principles

The judge basically told AM that he's sure his dead wife and son visit him often and will continue to do so for the rest of his life spent in jail and that his argument was so bad that he'd make for the worst attorney ever going forward as he sends him off in cuffs and a jumpsuit. Talk about savage.

Not a Bot said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Also...for whoever said the motive was thin at best...are you kidding me? His son was a major league **** up who was bringing insane attention to his life. He was a pill addict, he was estranged from his wife, and that very day he was caught stealing millions by his own firm. Add that to the multi generational pressure of the family dynasty and there's plenty of motive to rid yourself of some problems out of an emotionally fueled day where you feel like your life is crumbling around you.

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There's no evidence he was estranged from his wife. The family had been getting attention for a long time. The financial stuff was mostly discovered after the murder, not before. And killing them solved none of that. They had no life insurance. He was making millions a year.

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you just aren't correct about that

Alex had struggled with an addiction to opioids for the last 20 years and was spending $50,000 per week to support his habit.

Despite making millions, he allegedly stole millions from his law firm to support his habit.

On the day that Maggie and Paul were found dead, Alex was approached by members of his law firm who had found out about the alleged thefts.

He had a court date three days later regarding those financial irregularities.

That, prosecutors allege, combined with being confronted by his family over his drug abuse, were the factors that led Murdaugh to commit murder.

lunchbox said:

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LCE said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Judge just admitted he has doubts that it may not have been Alex who killed them?

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LOL.

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Are you laughing that hawg, yet again, only heard what she wanted to hear?

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Don't be a jerk. She was live-posting.

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I know it is complicated but you are getting cases mixed up.

The court date he was going to have that Friday was regarding the Mallory Beach case. It was a standard hearing. He wasn't going to have to disclose financial details there despite what the other slimy PI lawyer said. That case was going to get settled with insurance.

The confrontation about missing money from the firm was that morning, but like I said before he's always been good for it. Firm had been looking the other way for a long time and there's no reason to believe they wouldn't have just shoved it under the rug again if he produced the money.

No evidence of him being confronted about drugs by his family on that day. That was pure speculation. They sent him to rehab and helped him detox multiple times.

lunchbox said:

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LCE said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Judge just admitted he has doubts that it may not have been Alex who killed them?

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LOL.

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Are you laughing that hawg, yet again, only heard what she wanted to hear?

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You mean words that the judge said? Before he realized how bad it sounded and modified it? Good thing this judge is retiring.

johnnyblaze36 said:

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The judge basically told AM that he's sure his dead wife and son visit him often and will continue to do so for the rest of his life spent in jail and that his argument was so bad that he'd make for the worst attorney ever going forward as he sends him off in cuffs and a jumpsuit. Talk about savage.

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Judge was speaking for all the people in that area that had been screwed over by the Murdaughs for decades out of fear. He finally got to publicly shame them. Had it comin'

aggiehawg said:

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lunchbox said:

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LCE said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Judge just admitted he has doubts that it may not have been Alex who killed them?

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LOL.

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Are you laughing that hawg, yet again, only heard what she wanted to hear?

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You mean words that the judge said? Before he realized how bad it sounded and modified it? Good thing this judge is retiring.

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Not before he gets Waters to seek the death penalty on the financial crimes.

LMCane said:

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Not a Bot said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Also...for whoever said the motive was thin at best...are you kidding me? His son was a major league **** up who was bringing insane attention to his life. He was a pill addict, he was estranged from his wife, and that very day he was caught stealing millions by his own firm. Add that to the multi generational pressure of the family dynasty and there's plenty of motive to rid yourself of some problems out of an emotionally fueled day where you feel like your life is crumbling around you.

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There's no evidence he was estranged from his wife. The family had been getting attention for a long time. The financial stuff was mostly discovered after the murder, not before. And killing them solved none of that. They had no life insurance. He was making millions a year.

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you just aren't correct about that

Alex had struggled with an addiction to opioids for the last 20 years and was spending $50,000 per week to support his habit.

Despite making millions, he allegedly stole millions from his law firm to support his habit.

On the day that Maggie and Paul were found dead, Alex was approached by members of his law firm who had found out about the alleged thefts.

He had a court date three days later regarding those financial irregularities.

That, prosecutors allege, combined with being confronted by his family over his drug abuse, were the factors that led Murdaugh to commit murder.

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His court case in 3 days was about Mallory Beach.

The other attorneys from his firm testified that they had asked him about the money, but he was under no pressure at the time of the murders.

Hell, Alex already tried to kill himself. That's what he wants. He deserves to rot in prison and think about all the bull**** he did and have it haunt him. Life in prison is worse for him than death penalty.

AustinCountyAg said:

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Hell, Alex already tried to kill himself. That's what he wants. He deserves to rot in prison and think about all the bull**** he did and have him haunt him.

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Is the $10mm life insurance still in effect? Buster better keep up that premium when the son, grandson, great-grandson of the 14th District Solicitor shows up at state prison with the people that his dad put in for life.

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On the day that Maggie and Paul were found dead, Alex was approached by members of his law firm who had found out about the alleged thefts.

He had a court date three days later regarding those financial irregularities.

That, prosecutors allege, combined with being confronted by his family over his drug abuse, were the factors that led Murdaugh to commit murder.

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His court case in 3 days was about Mallory Beach.

The other attorneys from his firm testified that they had asked him about the money, but he was under no pressure at the time of the murders.

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Popping 60 pills a day and spending thousands a week to support the habit while your finances are unraveling and you're told by your own firm they know you're stealing, when you're as big as powerful as he is, and knowing there's a court date 3 days later about something else your stupid son did that will mean you have to spend more money to defend imo means the financial crimes, the pills, & the pressure due to the Beach situation all could easily support motive for him to go unhinged on who he in his pilled up state believes is causing the distress in his life. So he took it out on them.

LMCane said:

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On the day that Maggie and Paul were found dead, Alex was approached by members of his law firm who had found out about the alleged thefts.

He had a court date three days later regarding those financial irregularities.

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On the day of the murders the accountant at the firm came and asked him about a $792,000 check that was give to him for legal fees. He told her he had it but he had a lot going on with his dad dying and he would take care of it. She dropped it.

Pretty much every single member of his firm that has testified has said they had no clue that Alex was stealing money prior to the murders.

The "court date on his financial irregularities" was a hearing on a discovery request in a civil trial. Alex was well versed in playing legal games to avoid such minor inconveniences and there is a 0.00% chance he would have ever disclosed his fraudulent accounts in response to any discovery order.

It sure sounds very ominous so I understand why people think it's a big deal but most attorneys wouldn't be losing any sleep over such a hearing.

So you come on here saying that we don't understand reasonable doubt and then post completely untrue statements. Did you watch the trial or even highlights?

Regardless of the outcome of this trial, the investigation, police work, and false GJ testimony should frighten all justice-loving people. Maybe they convicted a guilty person this time, next time it could be an innocent person, even one of us or our loved ones. A guilty verdict at all costs is scary.