Biden pardons Fauci, Milley, Cheney et al

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I do not ever remember an entire government appointed committee receiving pardons. And has the head of the NIH ever been pardoned?


First time for both!

Lots of that with Biden!

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GEA89 said:

Innocent people do not need preemptive or any kind of pardon.

Now you know they were guilty and forever identified as criminals.
Haven't read through all of thread yet so apologies if this has been asked and answered - but, not being a pardon guru, how many times (other than Ford's pardon of Nixon) has a president granted a preemptive pardon to someone who has not even been charged with a crime? Best I can tell (https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-donald-j-trump-2017-2021) even Trump's first term pardons involved people having at least been charged with crimes. Maybe not convicted or not sentenced, but at least charged.

This seems like new ground being plowed (again, the Ford/Nixon pardon being only one I know of previously)
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RAB91 said:

Does anyone know why the other threads were getting locked?

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I always put comments now because of this, but I don't understand it because usually on the links it's very clear what the subject is. But it's the way they want it.
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Yes, if he muddied the water and allowed US funds to go to something he knew or should have known was illegal then I agree .
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And a good argument can be made that Ford to Nixon was President regarding President and having more to do with the succession process hand-over than it did with pre-pardoning just anybody for unspecified past crimes.

Everyone knew what Nixon might be charged with, and the draft-dodges it was even more clear. They were not guilty of something unspecified.
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HTownAg98 said:

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CDUB98 said:

Everyone be sure to understand, this is not Biden doing this, this is the Commie regime protecting itself. It just happens to be Biden's signature.
Go after them, F this piece of paper

A waste of time and resources. I'd rather DOJ spend their time deporting illegal immigrants.
Nah, we have the latter part covered.


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annie88 said:

RAB91 said:

Does anyone know why the other threads were getting locked?

[The standard for posting X posts and links on this forum has been communicated here for nearly three years. The OP of a thread needs to frame the discussion with their own summary or "take" on the topic of the X link. Simply dropping an X link is not enough. This forum is not an X forwarding platform. We will not comment any further on this and we will delete any posts discussing this subject and not the subject of the thread. -Staff]


I always try comments now because of this, but I don't understand it because usually on the links it's very clear what the subject is. But it's the way they want it.
Unlike trying to guess which content might get removed, this is simple. Just do it. When you do a post, no matter how obvious it is, preface with a few lines of your own in comment. Its a good habit to be in in the AI age anyway when too much generic will be being generated without comment.
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japantiger said:

Burdick v. United States (1915): In this case, the Supreme Court clarified that accepting a pardon implies an admission of guilt. George Burdick, a newspaper editor, was granted a pardon by President Woodrow Wilson but refused to accept it, arguing that acceptance would be an admission of guilt. The Supreme Court agreed, stating that a pardon "carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it." This ruling underscores that a pardon cannot be forced upon someone; it must be accepted to be effective, and acceptance has implications for the perception of guilt.
[url=https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/01/the-supreme-court-and-the-presidents-pardon-power/amp/][/url]
[url=https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/01/the-supreme-court-and-the-presidents-pardon-power/amp/][/url]

You're quoting dicta.
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Ag83 said:

GEA89 said:

Innocent people do not need preemptive or any kind of pardon.

Now you know they were guilty and forever identified as criminals.
Haven't read through all of thread yet so apologies if this has been asked and answered - but, not being a pardon guru, how many times (other than Ford's pardon of Nixon) has a president granted a preemptive pardon to someone who has not even been charged with a crime? Best I can tell (https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-donald-j-trump-2017-2021) even Trump's first term pardons involved people having at least been charged with crimes. Maybe not convicted or not sentenced, but at least charged.

This seems like new ground being plowed (again, the Ford/Nixon pardon being only one I know of previously)
Nixon's crimes were known... Don't be deceived or try to deceive. Please.
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AND that Demented SOB gets a pension (from our money) for the rest of his life!
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I did not read this entire thread so this may have been answered. I am sorry
Do the pardons cover future crimes or is there a timeline on the crimes.
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Fauci and Milley crimes are known too!

Look, it's pretty much the height of corruption that Biden is doing this. But you aren't going to find a judge with a brain anywhere that says it's outside the president's power.

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DrZ said:

I did not read this entire thread so this may have been answered. I am sorry
Do the pardons cover future crimes or is there a timeline on the crimes.


A pardon cannot cover future crimes.

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HTownAg98 said:

japantiger said:

Burdick v. United States (1915): In this case, the Supreme Court clarified that accepting a pardon implies an admission of guilt. George Burdick, a newspaper editor, was granted a pardon by President Woodrow Wilson but refused to accept it, arguing that acceptance would be an admission of guilt. The Supreme Court agreed, stating that a pardon "carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it." This ruling underscores that a pardon cannot be forced upon someone; it must be accepted to be effective, and acceptance has implications for the perception of guilt.
[url=https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/01/the-supreme-court-and-the-presidents-pardon-power/amp/][/url]
[url=https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/01/the-supreme-court-and-the-presidents-pardon-power/amp/][/url]

You're quoting dicta.

You're a dicta.
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Im Gipper said:

Fauci and Milley crimes are known too!

Look, it's pretty much the height of corruption that Biden is doing this. But you aren't going to find a judge with a brain anywhere that says it's outside the president's power.
Ah, but then what are the *crimes* of the January 6th committee??
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Possibly suborning perjury?


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Just in. Biden pardoned his family.
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Shocked. Shocked I tell you
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What a scum bag!!!

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HTownAg98 said:

Just in. Biden pardoned his family.
At this point I want him to pardon himself. (Don't even dispute it -- let him) It will give Trump the means to abolish lawfare against him after 2028.
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Jill didn't get a pardon?
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titan said:

HTownAg98 said:

Just in. Biden pardoned his family.
At this point I want him to pardon himself. (Don't even dispute it -- let him) It will give Trump the means to abolish lawfare against him after 2028.


Vance won't lawfare him

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No Jill???
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lol. Pardoning is for criminals so I guess Biden is telling us something
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8064 Pardons....
This is the largest criminal cabal in US history

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Pinochet said:

Jill didn't get a pardon?


He knows the others are criminals.

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The Biden Crime Family moniker is certainly apt now.

Unbelievable. Whole family needs to burn.
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Nice confirmation was a crime family.

Heads of the MSM need to be put on notice --- none of you have any credibility. You should pass the reigns to the next generation of your staff for allowing this to happen.
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Democrats are foul creatures.
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Im Gipper said:

Pinochet said:

Jill didn't get a pardon?


He knows the others are criminals.


Exactly. these pardons are a roadmap to the corruption and there are odd ones that give it away. The cops that testified. Some of the family members. He knows the crimes and the criminals. There are 51 "intelligent officers" that may not be smart enough to know what he is signaling, but it's obvious to most others.
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This was Biden's final F U to the American people after four years of corruption, lies, and the destruction of our sovereignty.

So much in bringing back "dignity" to the White House.

Like I have always stated, the only way for corruption to exist and flourish is when people that are corrupt surround themselves with others that are also corrupt.

The entire Democratic party is a cancer to this nation.
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Bye bye Kamala
 
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