I have seen a few theories that Vietnam was behind it since Ngo Dinh Diem was assassinated a few weeks before. A few months ago people thought you were crazy for suggesting the US or allied nation would be behind the attack, now with everything going on its just another non surprise

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I have seen a few theories that Vietnam was behind it since Ngo Dinh Diem was assassinated a few weeks before. A few months ago people thought you were crazy for suggesting the US or allied nation would be behind the attack, now with everything going on its just another non surprise

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Just doesn't make sense. We have more than enough evidence that Oswald took the shots and we have no evidence that shots were taken from anywhere else. How does Vietnam work with him? What kind of spying capabilities did Vietnam have in mainland US?

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I have seen a few theories that Vietnam was behind it since Ngo Dinh Diem was assassinated a few weeks before. A few months ago people thought you were crazy for suggesting the US or allied nation would be behind the attack, now with everything going on its just another non surprise

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Just doesn't make sense. We have more than enough evidence that Oswald took the shots and we have no evidence that shots were taken from anywhere else. How does Vietnam work with him? What kind of spying capabilities did Vietnam have in mainland US?

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I have seen a few theories that Vietnam was behind it since Ngo Dinh Diem was assassinated a few weeks before. A few months ago people thought you were crazy for suggesting the US or allied nation would be behind the attack, now with everything going on its just another non surprise

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Just doesn't make sense. We have more than enough evidence that Oswald took the shots and we have no evidence that shots were taken from anywhere else. How does Vietnam work with him? What kind of spying capabilities did Vietnam have in mainland US?

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Don't ask me, just was throwing out a newer random theory since who the heck knows. Once the JFK findings are released, wonder what is next?

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I have seen a few theories that Vietnam was behind it since Ngo Dinh Diem was assassinated a few weeks before. A few months ago people thought you were crazy for suggesting the US or allied nation would be behind the attack, now with everything going on its just another non surprise

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Just doesn't make sense. We have more than enough evidence that Oswald took the shots and we have no evidence that shots were taken from anywhere else. How does Vietnam work with him? What kind of spying capabilities did Vietnam have in mainland US?

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Not exactly true. No one saw LHO fire the shot + no one even saw him on that floor. Not to mention, questions still remain whether the kill shot was fired from behind or from another angle, i.e., autopsy debate by conflicting doctors. Have to question WHY the Secret Service made physical threats to Dallas hosp. staff in order to remove JFK from Parkland Hosp. and do unwitnessed autopsy in DC...hence, the unresolved debate.

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I have seen a few theories that Vietnam was behind it since Ngo Dinh Diem was assassinated a few weeks before. A few months ago people thought you were crazy for suggesting the US or allied nation would be behind the attack, now with everything going on its just another non surprise

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Just doesn't make sense. We have more than enough evidence that Oswald took the shots and we have no evidence that shots were taken from anywhere else. How does Vietnam work with him? What kind of spying capabilities did Vietnam have in mainland US?

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Not exactly true. No one saw LHO fire the shot + no one even saw him on that floor. Not to mention, questions still remain whether the kill shot was fired from behind or from another angle, i.e., autopsy debate by conflicting doctors. Have to question WHY the Secret Service made physical threats in order to remove JFK from Parkland Hosp. and do unwitnessed autopsy in DC .

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His gun was used. Shell casings were there. His prints on the snipers nest. He was seen on the floor prior to the shooting and he did work on the floor. We have reliable eyewitnesses (like Pulitzer Prize winner Bob Jackson) that saw the rifle in the window. No one was seen in the building or on the 6th floor that was not supposed to be in the building. The shots from the window have been recreated causing the same wounds multiple times.

There is no evidence that shots were taken from any other location at all. None.

Jackie is the person that decided where the autopsy would be held and it was not unwitnessed. There were about two dozen people present and extensive photographs and XRays were taken. It should have been done at AFIP, but again it was Jackie's call to have it done at Bethesda because she thought the Navy would take good care of JFK since he was a Navy man. Leaving it up to her was dumb, but it does seem to take away the conspiracy aspect... unless you think that Jackie was somehow involved in the conspiracy to kill her husband.

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You are entitled to your opinion...as am I. I do not concur with your supposed evidence which has been contested numerous times by credible persons. Do tell WHY the govt. has kept files secret beyond the original deadline for release and WHY the fbi is just now purporting that 2,400 files NOW exist AND were never reviewed by them or the hokey Warren Commission??????????? Lies stacked on top of lies on top of lies!
Not unlike the USAID pgm's to name just one. I don't think our POTUS trusts them either.

Trust them all you want. I'm not a member of that club.

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whatthehey78 said:

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I have seen a few theories that Vietnam was behind it since Ngo Dinh Diem was assassinated a few weeks before. A few months ago people thought you were crazy for suggesting the US or allied nation would be behind the attack, now with everything going on its just another non surprise

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Just doesn't make sense. We have more than enough evidence that Oswald took the shots and we have no evidence that shots were taken from anywhere else. How does Vietnam work with him? What kind of spying capabilities did Vietnam have in mainland US?

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Not exactly true. No one saw LHO fire the shot + no one even saw him on that floor. Not to mention, questions still remain whether the kill shot was fired from behind or from another angle, i.e., autopsy debate by conflicting doctors. Have to question WHY the Secret Service made physical threats in order to remove JFK from Parkland Hosp. and do unwitnessed autopsy in DC .

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His gun was used. Shell casings were there. His prints on the snipers nest. He was seen on the floor prior to the shooting and he did work on the floor. We have reliable eyewitnesses (like Pulitzer Prize winner Bob Jackson) that saw the rifle in the window. No one was seen in the building or on the 6th floor that was not supposed to be in the building. The shots from the window have been recreated causing the same wounds multiple times.

There is no evidence that shots were taken from any other location at all. None.

Jackie is the person that decided where the autopsy would be held and it was not unwitnessed. There were about two dozen people present and extensive photographs and XRays were taken. It should have been done at AFIP, but again it was Jackie's call to have it done at Bethesda because she thought the Navy would take good care of JFK since he was a Navy man. Leaving it up to her was dumb, but it does seem to take away the conspiracy aspect... unless you think that Jackie was somehow involved in the conspiracy to kill her husband.

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You are entitled to your opinion...as am I. I do not concur with your supposed evidence which has been contested numerous times by credible persons.

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It is not my evidence. It is evidence that I have studied. You are welcome to believe the moon is made of cheese and Quakers live there with funny hats, but that doesn't make it true and there isn't evidence to back up that belief.

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Do tell WHY the govt. has kept files secret beyond the original deadline for release and WHY the fbi is just now purporting that 2,400 files NOW exist AND were never reviewed by them or the hokey Warren Commission??????????? Lies stacked on top of lies on top of lies!

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Been discussed multiple times just within this thread. The files were never turned over to archives, that doesn't mean they haven't been reviewed by anyone. Those are your rants, but they are without basis in fact or evidence.

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Not unlike the USAID pgm's to name just one. I don't think our POTUS trusts them either.

Trust them all you want. I'm not a member of that club.

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I trust the evidence, where ever that leads. If more evidence comes to light that points in a different direction, I am open to it. I didn't come to my conclusions because Earl Warren or anyone else did. I came to the conclusions I did because of the evidence available. I find it difficult to come to a solid conclusion based on conjecture that may make sense. Just because someone had motive, doesn't mean they committed an act. Lots of people had motive to kill JFK and lots of people had motive to kill Reagan, Lincoln, and any other president that ever lived. That doesn't mean they did it.

After 10 pages do we know who killed JFK?

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A "task force" is necessary instead of simply releasing the files?

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As to JFK, this "task force" has no meaningful purpose other than grandstanding. The documents are being declassified and Congress has no role in that.

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I think it's more than just that. Luna's task force will be reviewing over-classification of government documents by agencies. In addition to the JFK documents, the TF will also be looking at classified document handling of these topics:

• RFK assassination
• MLK assassination
• 9/11
• UFO/UAP
• COVID-19
• Epstein, including his client list

This isn't going to be just a standard Congress committee dog and pony show. The CIA and FBI have a bad habit of classifying *everything* they touch, whether it needs it or not. It looks like Trump and Luna want to rein that in.

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Conspiracy theorists were on a pretty solid win streak lately until all this old crap had to get dug up again.

You were made to look foolish with your previous post but you're sticking to your guns. Props….I guess

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whatthehey78 said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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I have seen a few theories that Vietnam was behind it since Ngo Dinh Diem was assassinated a few weeks before. A few months ago people thought you were crazy for suggesting the US or allied nation would be behind the attack, now with everything going on its just another non surprise

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Just doesn't make sense. We have more than enough evidence that Oswald took the shots and we have no evidence that shots were taken from anywhere else. How does Vietnam work with him? What kind of spying capabilities did Vietnam have in mainland US?

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Not exactly true. No one saw LHO fire the shot + no one even saw him on that floor. Not to mention, questions still remain whether the kill shot was fired from behind or from another angle, i.e., autopsy debate by conflicting doctors. Have to question WHY the Secret Service made physical threats in order to remove JFK from Parkland Hosp. and do unwitnessed autopsy in DC .

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His gun was used. Shell casings were there. His prints on the snipers nest. He was seen on the floor prior to the shooting and he did work on the floor. We have reliable eyewitnesses (like Pulitzer Prize winner Bob Jackson) that saw the rifle in the window. No one was seen in the building or on the 6th floor that was not supposed to be in the building. The shots from the window have been recreated causing the same wounds multiple times.

There is no evidence that shots were taken from any other location at all. None.

Jackie is the person that decided where the autopsy would be held and it was not unwitnessed. There were about two dozen people present and extensive photographs and XRays were taken. It should have been done at AFIP, but again it was Jackie's call to have it done at Bethesda because she thought the Navy would take good care of JFK since he was a Navy man. Leaving it up to her was dumb, but it does seem to take away the conspiracy aspect... unless you think that Jackie was somehow involved in the conspiracy to kill her husband.

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You are entitled to your opinion...as am I. I do not concur with your supposed evidence which has been contested numerous times by credible persons.

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It is not my evidence. It is evidence that I have studied. You are welcome to believe the moon is made of cheese and Quakers live there with funny hats, but that doesn't make it true and there isn't evidence to back up that belief.

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Do tell WHY the govt. has kept files secret beyond the original deadline for release and WHY the fbi is just now purporting that 2,400 files NOW exist AND were never reviewed by them or the hokey Warren Commission??????????? Lies stacked on top of lies on top of lies!

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Been discussed multiple times just within this thread. The files were never turned over to archives, that doesn't mean they haven't been reviewed by anyone. Those are your rants, but they are without basis in fact or evidence.

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Not unlike the USAID pgm's to name just one. I don't think our POTUS trusts them either.

Trust them all you want. I'm not a member of that club.

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I trust the evidence, where ever that leads. If more evidence comes to light that points in a different direction, I am open to it. I didn't come to my conclusions because Earl Warren or anyone else did. I came to the conclusions I did because of the evidence available. I find it difficult to come to a solid conclusion based on conjecture that may make sense. Just because someone had motive, doesn't mean they committed an act. Lots of people had motive to kill JFK and lots of people had motive to kill Reagan, Lincoln, and any other president that ever lived. That doesn't mean they did it.

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And so called "evidence" doesn't necessarily mean fact or reality. Too often, the source of the purported evidence and whether it has actually been kept secure is significantly more important than the so called evidence. You trust the source(s) and their credibility...I used to, then I became enlightened relative to "agendas", non-aligned "motives", i.e., power, $$$ and control. People are human...meaning "frail" as in moldable, corruptible and greedy to name a few frailties. People rule the govt., the Federal agencies, incl. fbi, cia, etc., therefore I will remain highly skeptical as long as there is debate...AND ESPECIALLY when "secrets" are the norm of the day.

We just had a POTUS who obviously couldn't distinguish between falsehoods, fact, fiction or reality...and "people" under him followed his every whimsical wish. Again...I'll keep my distance from their so called evidence and perpetual secrets. Do have a nice day and keep on, keeping on with those blinders.

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whatthehey78 said:

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whatthehey78 said:

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I have seen a few theories that Vietnam was behind it since Ngo Dinh Diem was assassinated a few weeks before. A few months ago people thought you were crazy for suggesting the US or allied nation would be behind the attack, now with everything going on its just another non surprise

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Just doesn't make sense. We have more than enough evidence that Oswald took the shots and we have no evidence that shots were taken from anywhere else. How does Vietnam work with him? What kind of spying capabilities did Vietnam have in mainland US?

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Not exactly true. No one saw LHO fire the shot + no one even saw him on that floor. Not to mention, questions still remain whether the kill shot was fired from behind or from another angle, i.e., autopsy debate by conflicting doctors. Have to question WHY the Secret Service made physical threats in order to remove JFK from Parkland Hosp. and do unwitnessed autopsy in DC .

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His gun was used. Shell casings were there. His prints on the snipers nest. He was seen on the floor prior to the shooting and he did work on the floor. We have reliable eyewitnesses (like Pulitzer Prize winner Bob Jackson) that saw the rifle in the window. No one was seen in the building or on the 6th floor that was not supposed to be in the building. The shots from the window have been recreated causing the same wounds multiple times.

There is no evidence that shots were taken from any other location at all. None.

Jackie is the person that decided where the autopsy would be held and it was not unwitnessed. There were about two dozen people present and extensive photographs and XRays were taken. It should have been done at AFIP, but again it was Jackie's call to have it done at Bethesda because she thought the Navy would take good care of JFK since he was a Navy man. Leaving it up to her was dumb, but it does seem to take away the conspiracy aspect... unless you think that Jackie was somehow involved in the conspiracy to kill her husband.

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You are entitled to your opinion...as am I. I do not concur with your supposed evidence which has been contested numerous times by credible persons.

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It is not my evidence. It is evidence that I have studied. You are welcome to believe the moon is made of cheese and Quakers live there with funny hats, but that doesn't make it true and there isn't evidence to back up that belief.

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Do tell WHY the govt. has kept files secret beyond the original deadline for release and WHY the fbi is just now purporting that 2,400 files NOW exist AND were never reviewed by them or the hokey Warren Commission??????????? Lies stacked on top of lies on top of lies!

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Been discussed multiple times just within this thread. The files were never turned over to archives, that doesn't mean they haven't been reviewed by anyone. Those are your rants, but they are without basis in fact or evidence.

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Not unlike the USAID pgm's to name just one. I don't think our POTUS trusts them either.

Trust them all you want. I'm not a member of that club.

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I trust the evidence, where ever that leads. If more evidence comes to light that points in a different direction, I am open to it. I didn't come to my conclusions because Earl Warren or anyone else did. I came to the conclusions I did because of the evidence available. I find it difficult to come to a solid conclusion based on conjecture that may make sense. Just because someone had motive, doesn't mean they committed an act. Lots of people had motive to kill JFK and lots of people had motive to kill Reagan, Lincoln, and any other president that ever lived. That doesn't mean they did it.

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And so called "evidence" doesn't necessarily mean fact or reality. Too often, the source of the purported evidence and whether it has actually been kept secure is significantly more important than the so called evidence. You trust the source(s) and their credibility...I used to, then I became enlightened relative to "agendas", non-aligned "motives", i.e., power, $$$ and control. People are human...meaning "frail" as in moldable, corruptible and greedy to name a few frailties. People rule the govt., the Federal agencies, incl. fbi, cia, etc., therefore I will remain highly skeptical as long as there is debate...AND ESPECIALLY when "secrets" are the norm of the day.

We just had a POTUS who obviously couldn't distinguish between falsehoods, fact, fiction or reality...and "people" under him followed his every whimsical wish. Again...I'll keep my distance from their so called evidence and perpetual secrets. Do have a nice day and keep on, keeping on with those blinders.

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Show some proof. You are just spouting typical conspiracy theory nonsense. You can't back it up, or you would.

I've studied the various possible conspiracies in detail over decades. Some are really compelling stories, but that is all they are stories, because there is no evidentiary backing.

You aren't enlightened, you were hoodwinked. And you are parroting off the same nonsense that lots of others have before you with nothing to back it up.

It is truly sad how so many people can be tricked and buy into nonsense that has no basis in reality or facts.

Let's begin shall we?

Which parts of the evidence do you choose to ignore? And why?

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At least he's aware of this about himself. That's kind of a start.

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LHO killed JFK. Lone nutjob or was someone else pulling the strings? I doubt we'll ever know for sure.

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LHO killed JFK. Lone nutjob or was someone else pulling the strings? I doubt we'll ever know for sure.

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Exactly. And the nature of how LHO got the job in the TSBD and how the parade was planned just wasn't part of any conspiracy.

Agent Winston Lawson - agent in charge of security for the trip - didn't find out they were going to the Trade Mart for the luncheon until Nov 14th. The route of the parade wasn't finalized until Nov 18th. Most of the trip and stops and eveything JFK wanted (which was different from what Gov. Connally wanted) was pushed through by Ken ODonnell, a JFK loyalist until he died. Ken was in the car behind JFK.

So it is possible that someone wound up LHO, but he had the job there by pure chance months before the parade was even planned, then the parade was planned by one of JFK's closest friends and advisors, who was in the motorcade with him. And the route was only finalized four days ahead of the parade, so any winding up of LHO needed to be done really damn quickly.

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After 10 pages do we know who killed JFK?

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Whoever did it, they had to have been alive and on Dallas on November 22, 1963. That narrows it down to roughly 700,000 people

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Rep. Luna on JFK assassination: "The initial hearing was faulty...I believe that there were two shooters." pic.twitter.com/KgGuU7oJuJ

— LiveNOW from FOX (@livenowfox) February 11, 2025

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Wife- “Babe are you coming to bed?”

Me- “I can’t. Too busy reading old police reports about a congresswoman who was a stripper.”

Wife- Which one?

Me- Anna Paulina Luna. She just got assigned the JFK files. She said she’s going to expose EVERYTHING….

😂 😆 😝 pic.twitter.com/SQ6eyXXrVg

— Uncommon Sense (@Uncommonsince76) February 13, 2025

I knew it! The JFK movie was a cover!

Oliver Stone's former last name was Silverstein. His father was jewish...but it gets even better...

The person that funded the film was Arnon Milchan, a billionaire Israeli who ADMITTED ON Israeli TV to being a SPY for Israel...

— Myron Gaines (@MyronGainesX) February 15, 2025

Eventually we'll have to change the definition of 'conspiracy theory'

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Delayed truth

About to find out Oswald did it all by himself

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whatthehey78 said:

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I have seen a few theories that Vietnam was behind it since Ngo Dinh Diem was assassinated a few weeks before. A few months ago people thought you were crazy for suggesting the US or allied nation would be behind the attack, now with everything going on its just another non surprise

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Just doesn't make sense. We have more than enough evidence that Oswald took the shots and we have no evidence that shots were taken from anywhere else. How does Vietnam work with him? What kind of spying capabilities did Vietnam have in mainland US?

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Not exactly true. No one saw LHO fire the shot + no one even saw him on that floor. Not to mention, questions still remain whether the kill shot was fired from behind or from another angle, i.e., autopsy debate by conflicting doctors. Have to question WHY the Secret Service made physical threats in order to remove JFK from Parkland Hosp. and do unwitnessed autopsy in DC .

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His gun was used. Shell casings were there. His prints on the snipers nest. He was seen on the floor prior to the shooting and he did work on the floor. We have reliable eyewitnesses (like Pulitzer Prize winner Bob Jackson) that saw the rifle in the window. No one was seen in the building or on the 6th floor that was not supposed to be in the building. The shots from the window have been recreated causing the same wounds multiple times.

There is no evidence that shots were taken from any other location at all. None.

Jackie is the person that decided where the autopsy would be held and it was not unwitnessed. There were about two dozen people present and extensive photographs and XRays were taken. It should have been done at AFIP, but again it was Jackie's call to have it done at Bethesda because she thought the Navy would take good care of JFK since he was a Navy man. Leaving it up to her was dumb, but it does seem to take away the conspiracy aspect... unless you think that Jackie was somehow involved in the conspiracy to kill her husband.

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You are entitled to your opinion...as am I. I do not concur with your supposed evidence which has been contested numerous times by credible persons.

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It is not my evidence. It is evidence that I have studied. You are welcome to believe the moon is made of cheese and Quakers live there with funny hats, but that doesn't make it true and there isn't evidence to back up that belief.

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Do tell WHY the govt. has kept files secret beyond the original deadline for release and WHY the fbi is just now purporting that 2,400 files NOW exist AND were never reviewed by them or the hokey Warren Commission??????????? Lies stacked on top of lies on top of lies!

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Been discussed multiple times just within this thread. The files were never turned over to archives, that doesn't mean they haven't been reviewed by anyone. Those are your rants, but they are without basis in fact or evidence.

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Not unlike the USAID pgm's to name just one. I don't think our POTUS trusts them either.

Trust them all you want. I'm not a member of that club.

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I trust the evidence, where ever that leads. If more evidence comes to light that points in a different direction, I am open to it. I didn't come to my conclusions because Earl Warren or anyone else did. I came to the conclusions I did because of the evidence available. I find it difficult to come to a solid conclusion based on conjecture that may make sense. Just because someone had motive, doesn't mean they committed an act. Lots of people had motive to kill JFK and lots of people had motive to kill Reagan, Lincoln, and any other president that ever lived. That doesn't mean they did it.

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And so called "evidence" doesn't necessarily mean fact or reality. Too often, the source of the purported evidence and whether it has actually been kept secure is significantly more important than the so called evidence. You trust the source(s) and their credibility...I used to, then I became enlightened relative to "agendas", non-aligned "motives", i.e., power, $$$ and control. People are human...meaning "frail" as in moldable, corruptible and greedy to name a few frailties. People rule the govt., the Federal agencies, incl. fbi, cia, etc., therefore I will remain highly skeptical as long as there is debate...AND ESPECIALLY when "secrets" are the norm of the day.

We just had a POTUS who obviously couldn't distinguish between falsehoods, fact, fiction or reality...and "people" under him followed his every whimsical wish. Again...I'll keep my distance from their so called evidence and perpetual secrets. Do have a nice day and keep on, keeping on with those blinders.

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I refuse to believe your evidence and choose instead to believe my non-existent evidence.

Also, Joe Biden.

Out of nowhere...

I think the revelation of why all these files were sealed for so long is that we will find what an immoral philandering POS John Kennedy was, the people that were being paid to keep quiet, and the measures the Secret Service went to keep it under wraps.

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Out of nowhere...

I think the revelation of why all these files were sealed for so long is that we will find what an immoral philandering POS John Kennedy was, the people that were being paid to keep quiet, and the measures the Secret Service went to keep it under wraps.

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I don't think they suspected Marilyn Monroe of killing JFK.

I think it has more to do with illegal wiretaps in the US and abroad. CIA knowing Oswald was a loose canon, seeking to go to Cuba but not sharing their info with the FBI (similar to intelligence failures surrounding 9/11).

Also, the majority of autopsy photos and things like that, which the family didn't want released

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Out of nowhere...

I think the revelation of why all these files were sealed for so long is that we will find what an immoral philandering POS John Kennedy was, the people that were being paid to keep quiet, and the measures the Secret Service went to keep it under wraps.

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I don't think they suspected Marilyn Monroe of killing JFK.

I think it has more to do with illegal wiretaps in the US and abroad. CIA knowing Oswald was a loose canon, seeking to go to Cuba but not sharing their info with the FBI (similar to intelligence failures surrounding 9/11).

Also, the majority of autopsy photos and things like that, which the family didn't want released

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Point being. Releasing the information isn't going to reveal any sort of grand conspiracy because there wasn't one. Those investigations over time cast very, very, broad nets. It is going to reveal that in all their efforts to find out if there was a conspiracy or that if LHO had accomplices, that pile of boxes has a lot of non-assassination info that is going to make some people and organizations look really, really, bad

My belief on Marilyn Monroe was that she was a Hollywood starlet with chemical dependency issues thanks to a show business lifestyle, and that she just overdid it. The only other explanation was that she found out something she wasn't supposed to know because of her carousing with the Kennedy's and Joe or someone in the government wacked her.

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Burdizzo said:

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Out of nowhere...

I think the revelation of why all these files were sealed for so long is that we will find what an immoral philandering POS John Kennedy was, the people that were being paid to keep quiet, and the measures the Secret Service went to keep it under wraps.

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I don't think they suspected Marilyn Monroe of killing JFK.

I think it has more to do with illegal wiretaps in the US and abroad. CIA knowing Oswald was a loose canon, seeking to go to Cuba but not sharing their info with the FBI (similar to intelligence failures surrounding 9/11).

Also, the majority of autopsy photos and things like that, which the family didn't want released

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Point being. Releasing the information isn't going to reveal any sort of grand conspiracy because there wasn't one. Those investigations over time cast very, very, broad nets. It is going to reveal that in all their efforts to find out if there was a conspiracy or that if LHO had accomplices, that pile of boxes has a lot of non-assassination info that is going to make some people and organizations look really, really, bad

My belief on Marilyn Monroe was that she was a Hollywood starlet with chemical dependency issues thanks to a show business lifestyle, and that she just overdid it. The only other explanation was that she found out something she wasn't supposed to know because of her carousing with the Kennedy's and Joe or someone in the government wacked her.

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Moreover, I expect a lot of these files were classified purely out of habit. (Which is a different issue, and a problem worth fixing.)

I can see your point, however the underlying assumption is the Warren commission had all of the relevant information. The CIA stood in opposition to that and only provided what they wanted to.
I don't believe we will ever have all of the relevant information. What we have is what we have which is the shame in all of this.

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I can see your point, however the underlying assumption is the Warren commission had all of the relevant information. The CIA stood in opposition to that and only provided what they wanted to.
I don't believe we will ever have all of the relevant information. What we have is what we have which is the shame in all of this.

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There has been not a single shred of evidence ever released that would lead anyone to believe that the CIA was involved in any way, other than knowing that Oswald could have been dangerous and not following up or sharing the evidence.

I don't think the CIA shared everything, but there is also no evidence that they held back anything substantive about the actual assassination or any knowledge or conspiracies regarding it. Also, the House Select Committee on Assassinations also dove deep into it, and they also found no conspiracies and no evidence linking Oswald to the CIA, no evidence of Oswald conspiring with anyone, no evidence of anyone else taking a shot from anywhere.

And in the six decades since the assassination, not a single person has come forward with any evidence that there was a conspiracy. We have had so many classified document leaks. Deep Throat, Snowdon, Manning, Ames, Hanssen, all the KGB spies, etc and none have ever released anything substantive.

If you were the KGB and you got your hands on evidence that the CIA or LBJ offed JFK, isnt that the most insanely valuable evidence that a US coup actually and they pinned it on a patsy? That's worth more than nuclear locations. But nothing.

Or if you worked for basic government salary and pension all your life and loved JFK and knew he was murdered by your colleagues... you can take the information public and create generational wealth for you, rather than live off your pension and social security after making meh money for your career. Yet no one did that.

Any CIA type of conspiracy just doesn't pass the logic test.

with all due respect to Guitarsoup's incredible command of the subject, I don't think the Warren Commission was anything but a rush to close the matter and put a bow on it. They wanted to avoid escalation to war with the Soviets, give the public an official answer, hide some unsavory truths about JFK and sources and methods and move on with the LBJ presidency.