Politics of the crash.

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In reply to jwoodmd • 1:53p, 1/31/25
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jwoodmd said:
TAMUallen said:
That is totally irresponsible. Those comments are directed at the RJ pilots and where in all this has anyone ever mentioned anything remotely that the RJ pilots did even slightest, smallest thing wrong. Debate has been between chopper pilots and ATC for fault.



As irresponsible as the racism called DEI? No.

Till the left abandons that silly effort, you're just going to have to sit there and take it every time something like this happens.

The crocodile tears are met with an eye roll from me.
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In reply to jwoodmd • 1:54p, 1/31/25
No. They weren't.
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In reply to TAMU1990 • 1:56p, 1/31/25
TAMU1990 said:
I see the paid agitators are back!
Paid? Can someone notify DOGE my checks haven't arrived.
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In reply to jwoodmd • 2:06p, 1/31/25
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wrong, weren't directed at the CRJ pilots
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In reply to Hullabaloonatic • 2:07p, 1/31/25
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Hullabaloonatic said:
TAMU1990 said:
I see the paid agitators are back!
Paid? Can someone notify DOGE my checks haven't arrived.


Do you just volunteer to be an agitator?
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In reply to BBRex • 2:10p, 1/31/25
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being a helicopter pilot which is a physically and mentally demanding job.
Ever hear of hydraulically boosted controls?

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I'm tired of giving the benefit of the doubt. The burden of proof is on them to prove she was superior based on merit
Superior? Not equal?

Guilty until proven innocent?
It's a lot more than hydraulically boosted controls. One of my best friends is a helicopter pilot. Dude looks like he could be a SEAL. Even he comes home exhausted from the physical and mental strain of flying. Helicopters are not airplanes either, they are far more complicated and require far more physical strength and coordination to control.

As for the policies they chose to make it so that people of different sexes and races get advantages. Burden of proof is thus on people of those sexes and races who are in those roles to show they were hired based on merit. Can't have it both ways
My dad was a helicopter pilot for more than 30 years. He was a high school athlete and had great hand-eye coordination, but for most of his career didn't do much more than jog in the evenings to work out. His last 10 or so years was demanding flying with the Department of Energy, so it isn't like he was coasting.

Also, in the early '90s, I got the opportunity to ride in a Navy T-2 Buckeye out of NAS Kingsville. The female pilot, who was a Navy instructor pilot, didn't have any trouble flying that jet. If you want to talk about the physical difficulties of pulling G's or stuff like that, maybe so. But most aviation isn't so demanding that a woman can't do it.
I never said a woman couldn't do it, I said that the standards should be the same. As long as the standards are NOT the same and we are encouraging more hiring of women or other categories that is the problem. We don't know if this is a total badass 1% female that can do everything a man can do (or at least the average male helicopter pilot) then I am going to assume not until shown otherwise. I've played nice on this and tried to assume the best for decades but not any more. Sorry but there is just no reason we need to lower standards for pilots or ATC's because of sex or race or anything else. I can see with both of my boys how they have fewer opportunities because of those policies. The rot is very, very deep.

I do feel a degree of sympathy for women or anyone else that is just as qualified as those who don't get an advantage being treated as if they are in question but once again I didn't make those rules. You cannot have it both ways and I am tired of worrying about hurting someone's feelings. Spare me the "I know this woman who is every bit as good as a man" so we should thus justify all of the DEI insanity because it might hurt her feelings. If she is that good she should actually be excited about proving just how good she is and competing with men. If not it only proves the point I am making.
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In reply to Hullabaloonatic • 2:11p, 1/31/25
Hullabaloonatic said:
TAMU1990 said:
I see the paid agitators are back!
Paid? Can someone notify DOGE my checks haven't arrived.
Well, a merit based Admin is in power now, and given you haven't made a case or changed a single mind, no pay day for you. Sorry bud.
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In reply to ttu_85 • 2:15p, 1/31/25
ttu_85 said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
TAMU1990 said:
I see the paid agitators are back!
Paid? Can someone notify DOGE my checks haven't arrived.
Well, a merit based Admin is in power now, and given you haven't made a case or changed a single mind, no pay day for you. Sorry bud.
Am i paid to agitate or convert? I need clarity. Someone tell George Soros this wasn't in my agreement.
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In reply to Hullabaloonatic • 2:19p, 1/31/25
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Hullabaloonatic said:
ttu_85 said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
TAMU1990 said:
I see the paid agitators are back!
Paid? Can someone notify DOGE my checks haven't arrived.
Well, a merit based Admin is in power now, and given you haven't made a case or changed a single mind, no pay day for you. Sorry bud.
Am i paid to agitate or convert? I need clarity. Someone tell George Soros this wasn't in my agreement.


You tell us... it's a strange thing to post on.
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In reply to aggie93 • 2:27p, 1/31/25
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Once again, DEI is a cancer, not least for encouraging your attitude which paints anyone not a white male as unfairly in their position.

Your attitude is not the opposite of DEI. It is a mirror image.

It's just as dumb as the attitude that white males are inherently evil.
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In reply to Tom Kazansky 2012 • 2:31p, 1/31/25
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
jwoodmd said:
TAMUallen said:
That is totally irresponsible. Those comments are directed at the RJ pilots and where in all this has anyone ever mentioned anything remotely that the RJ pilots did even slightest, smallest thing wrong. Debate has been between chopper pilots and ATC for fault.



As irresponsible as the racism called DEI? No.

Till the left abandons that silly effort, you're just going to have to sit there and take it every time something like this happens.

The crocodile tears are met with an eye roll from me.


Dude just blasts anything he doesn't like on this thread with whatever he can pull out of his ass. Just look at the discussion about flight numbers he ran away from earlier in this thread.
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In reply to Hullabaloonatic • 2:39p, 1/31/25
Hullabaloonatic said:
ttu_85 said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
TAMU1990 said:
I see the paid agitators are back!
Paid? Can someone notify DOGE my checks haven't arrived.
Well, a merit based Admin is in power now, and given you haven't made a case or changed a single mind, no pay day for you. Sorry bud.
Am i paid to agitate or convert? I need clarity. Someone tell George Soros this wasn't in my agreement.


I hope you are not paid to post funny memes, because you are terrible at it.
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2:43p, 1/31/25
Pay no mind to the weirdos who had absolutely zero problem with this car wreck of a dude being in charge of US health policy...

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In reply to Logos Stick • 2:48p, 1/31/25
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eta: evidently Trump alluded eluded to DEI during his presser on the matter
FIFY
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In reply to jeremiahjt • 2:48p, 1/31/25
jeremiahjt said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
ttu_85 said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
TAMU1990 said:
I see the paid agitators are back!
Paid? Can someone notify DOGE my checks haven't arrived.
Well, a merit based Admin is in power now, and given you haven't made a case or changed a single mind, no pay day for you. Sorry bud.
Am i paid to agitate or convert? I need clarity. Someone tell George Soros this wasn't in my agreement.

I hope you are not paid to post funny memes, because you are terrible at it.
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In reply to El Gallo Blanco • 2:52p, 1/31/25
El Gallo Blanco said:
Pay no mind to the weirdos who had absolutely zero problem with this car wreck of a dude being in charge of US health policy...

This person wasn't in charge of US Health Policy. The ASSISTANT Secretary of Health obviously provides input and support but the person in charge of US Health Policy under Biden was Xavier Becerra who was a Stanford Law graduate and former AG of California. Hope that helps!
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In reply to Hullabaloonatic • 3:24p, 1/31/25
Hullabaloonatic said:
TAMU1990 said:
I see the paid agitators are back!
Paid? Can someone notify DOGE my checks haven't arrived.
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In reply to Hullabaloonatic • 3:32p, 1/31/25
Hullabaloonatic said:
El Gallo Blanco said:
Pay no mind to the weirdos who had absolutely zero problem with this car wreck of a dude being in charge of US health policy...

This person wasn't in charge of US Health Policy. The ASSISTANT Secretary of Health obviously provides input and support but the person in charge of US Health Policy under Biden was Xavier Becerra who was a Stanford Law graduate and former AG of California. Hope that helps!
My point still stands...your carney freakshow of a party made people like this front and center. Also that luggage stealing freak pictured below. Point being...everyone here should just ignore you and anyone else flinging pool from the left. Get your own house in order.

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In reply to Hullabaloonatic • 3:36p, 1/31/25
Hullabaloonatic said:
ttu_85 said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
TAMU1990 said:
I see the paid agitators are back!
Paid? Can someone notify DOGE my checks haven't arrived.
Well, a merit based Admin is in power now, and given you haven't made a case or changed a single mind, no pay day for you. Sorry bud.
Am i paid to agitate or convert? I need clarity. Someone tell George Soros this wasn't in my agreement.
No idea. But if you are, they're not getting their moneys worth.

As trump likes to say "Your're fired !!"
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In reply to Hullabaloonatic • 3:39p, 1/31/25
Hullabaloonatic said:
El Gallo Blanco said:
Pay no mind to the weirdos who had absolutely zero problem with this car wreck of a dude being in charge of US health policy...

This person wasn't in charge of US Health Policy. The ASSISTANT Secretary of Health obviously provides input and support but the person in charge of US Health Policy under Biden was Xavier Becerra who was a Stanford Law graduate and former AG of California. Hope that helps!



Hilarious this defcon level deflection who in the hell would take advice from that creature, this would make me question Xaviers thought process
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5:22p, 1/31/25
Report of lack of ATCs at DCA comes amid lawsuit FAA trying to fill jobs based on race

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/american-airlines-plane-military-helicopter-crash-dc-airport
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In reply to ttu_85 • 5:35p, 1/31/25
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ttu_85 said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
ttu_85 said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
TAMU1990 said:
I see the paid agitators are back!
Paid? Can someone notify DOGE my checks haven't arrived.
Well, a merit based Admin is in power now, and given you haven't made a case or changed a single mind, no pay day for you. Sorry bud.
Am i paid to agitate or convert? I need clarity. Someone tell George Soros this wasn't in my agreement.
No idea. But if you are, they're not getting their moneys worth.

As trump likes to say "Your're fired !!"


No, no, no!!!

Promote him to head of the democrat's meme team because he will fit right in
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In reply to TAMUallen • 5:57p, 1/31/25
I cant believe anyone with stars doesn't have this clown ignored.
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6:50p, 1/31/25
I have no idea why Trump would immediately bring up diversity as a culprit. There were staff shortages before he became president. Maybe it was a deflection from his offer to buy everyone out the day before. I know that would be a distraction at my place of work, especially if we were already understaffed.

But, being understaffed is nothing new. In 1981 when Reagan broke the union, he fired 11,000 ATC. They definitely had to make some diversity hires. They got some replacements from the military, and were apparently training new people like crazy. Even if the new hires were qualified, I know that high turnover on safety-related jobs causes lots of problems.

Reagan smashed that union pretty hard by showing that the skies could still function in their absence. I imagine that one accident around then could have changed the history of labor in this country - kind of like 3 Mile Island and nuclear power.
94chem,
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In reply to 94chem • 6:51p, 1/31/25
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He wouldn't have said it if he didn't already know it contributed to the accident.
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In reply to Jbob04 • 6:53p, 1/31/25
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Its certainly undeniable Dan Bongino has been saying this would happen, and very specifically the FAA standars erosion worried him. Wish had been able to hear what had to say about this just after.
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In reply to Jbob04 • 6:54p, 1/31/25
Jbob04 said:
He wouldn't have said it if he didn't already know it contributed to the accident.


Yeah, that's usually how he operates - gets all the facts before he pronounces anything or forms an opinion.
94chem,
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In reply to Jbob04 • 6:54p, 1/31/25
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Jbob04 said:
He wouldn't have said it if he didn't already know it contributed to the accident.


I mean he didn't say much and they were ready to pounce anyway. They already pounced before that with the blame.

We didn't elect a bumbling idiot who needs a nap and amphetamines with a written speech before being in public.

I'll let this age and see how it goes but I'm guessing this is quite of a big nothing burger, yet again, against Trump
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In reply to 94chem • 8:41p, 1/31/25
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I have no idea why Trump would immediately bring up diversity as a culprit.


Really? No idea? Not 1?
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In reply to Silent For Too Long • 8:56p, 1/31/25
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I have no idea why Trump would immediately bring up diversity as a culprit.


Really? No idea? Not 1?


Well, I have an idea, but it ranks right up there with grandstanding on gun safety while parents are still picking up body parts after a school shooting. There are no rules or sense of decorum when it comes to galvanizing a ravenous base.

94chem,
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10:14p, 1/31/25
Hypothetically:

How bad is it gonna be if the name is eventually leaked and the unsubstantiated and baseless rumors turn out to be true?

Also, how bad it is gonna be if evidence emerges that online presence has been scrubbed?
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 10:44p, 1/31/25
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CanyonAg77 said:
Once again, DEI is a cancer, not least for encouraging your attitude which paints anyone not a white male as unfairly in their position.

Your attitude is not the opposite of DEI. It is a mirror image.

It's just as dumb as the attitude that white males are inherently evil.
So close but so far. The way you beat DEI is by fighting fire with fire until they get rid of it. Playing nice has only gotten us more of it.
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11:00p, 1/31/25
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aggiedent - they were not.
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In reply to TAMUallen • 11:02p, 1/31/25
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TAMUallen said:
TAMU1990 said:
I see the paid agitators are back!


Has honestly crossed my mind since some have been gone for years but have returned.
The Dems lost - it's like clockwork.
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In reply to jwoodmd • 11:27p, 1/31/25
jwoodmd said:
TAMUallen said:
That is totally irresponsible. Those comments are directed at the RJ pilots and where in all this has anyone ever mentioned anything remotely that the RJ pilots did even slightest, smallest thing wrong. Debate has been between chopper pilots and ATC for fault.


The concern is spot on….not sure why one wouldn't be concerned. Do you really think 100% of the DEI candidate pool were the best candidates hired?
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