He strikes me as the parent trying to relive their glory days through their kid's club sport team.
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How about "if this is true, Hegseth is not very bright and needs to go."?
You can twist yourself is to any shape pretzel you want in order to convince yourself it didn't happen, but those rationalizations have nothing to do with the fact that if it did happen (and this is all that should matter, is to determine the facts of the situation), he needs to be shown the door, regardless of his politics or his loyalty to MAGA or whatever.
As was stated above, the standard should always be competence, regardless of who is in charge. Just because the left didn't hit that standard doesn't excuse the right from doing so.
You can twist yourself is to any shape pretzel you want in order to convince yourself it didn't happen, but those rationalizations have nothing to do with the fact that if it did happen (and this is all that should matter, is to determine the facts of the situation), he needs to be shown the door, regardless of his politics or his loyalty to MAGA or whatever.
As was stated above, the standard should always be competence, regardless of who is in charge. Just because the left didn't hit that standard doesn't excuse the right from doing so.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill
Why are we kvetching about something that supposedly happened over a month ago and did not involve classified information?pagerman @ work said:
How about "if this is true, Hegseth is not very bright and needs to go."?
So you are saying this did in fact happen?Ellis Wyatt said:Why are we kvetching about something that supposedly happened over a month ago and did not involve classified information?pagerman @ work said:
How about "if this is true, Hegseth is not very bright and needs to go."?
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill
Why would I say that?
Trump continues to be pilloried with "unnamed sources," that turn out to be false most of the time. Not sure why people are up in arms, yet again, about something that may have no basis in reality.
Trump continues to be pilloried with "unnamed sources," that turn out to be false most of the time. Not sure why people are up in arms, yet again, about something that may have no basis in reality.
Yes, IF this is true, fire his ass. But you and the 19 that starred this post so desperately want this to be true for political reasons based on posting history.Pumpkinhead said:
That article says Hegseth brought his WIFE to the PENTAGON and she sat in two meetings there with UK and NATO military officials where work-related conversations were conducted.
That incident alone right there should be easy enough for any investigation to verify and if verified then I'd fire him. That would be amateurish behavior that presumably nobody else in the Pentagon would be allowed to get away with without getting fired. even putting all the 'SignalGate'' stuff aside. Why you'd ever bring your WIFE to the PENTAGON much less sit in on any meeting would be incomprehensible. WTF incomprehensible.
However the following cast serious doubt on this leftest wet dream:
"Anonymous Sources",
missing links,
The leftest propensity for witch hunts with minimal or no supporting evidence,
and last of all "The New York Times" as a source which has long been a farce to millions in this country.
The NYT has not been a reputable source for 20 years+
Imagine how much better things would be if we had a media most people trusted. That disappeared decades ago.
I am pretty sure that they have already admitted that this is true.ttu_85 said:Yes, IF this is true, fire his ass. But you and the 19 that starred this post so desperately want this to be true for political reasons based on posting history.Pumpkinhead said:
That article says Hegseth brought his WIFE to the PENTAGON and she sat in two meetings there with UK and NATO military officials where work-related conversations were conducted.
That incident alone right there should be easy enough for any investigation to verify and if verified then I'd fire him. That would be amateurish behavior that presumably nobody else in the Pentagon would be allowed to get away with without getting fired. even putting all the 'SignalGate'' stuff aside. Why you'd ever bring your WIFE to the PENTAGON much less sit in on any meeting would be incomprehensible. WTF incomprehensible.
However the following cast serious doubt on this leftest wet dream:
"Anonymous Sources",
missing links,
The leftest propensity for witch hunts with minimal or no supporting evidence,
and last of all "The New York Times" as a source which has long been a farce to millions in this country.
The NYT has not been a reputable source for 20 years+
Imagine how much better things would be if we had a media most people trusted. That disappeared decades ago.
I guess I don't understand this. The husband and I rarely talk about work via text. I mean, we are married. We talk about it in person. Why would he need to text his wife and brother and attorney anything related to missions. Seems weird.
Charpie said:I am pretty sure that they have already admitted that this is true.ttu_85 said:Yes, IF this is true, fire his ass. But you and the 19 that starred this post so desperately want this to be true for political reasons based on posting history.Pumpkinhead said:
That article says Hegseth brought his WIFE to the PENTAGON and she sat in two meetings there with UK and NATO military officials where work-related conversations were conducted.
That incident alone right there should be easy enough for any investigation to verify and if verified then I'd fire him. That would be amateurish behavior that presumably nobody else in the Pentagon would be allowed to get away with without getting fired. even putting all the 'SignalGate'' stuff aside. Why you'd ever bring your WIFE to the PENTAGON much less sit in on any meeting would be incomprehensible. WTF incomprehensible.
However the following cast serious doubt on this leftest wet dream:
"Anonymous Sources",
missing links,
The leftest propensity for witch hunts with minimal or no supporting evidence,
and last of all "The New York Times" as a source which has long been a farce to millions in this country.
The NYT has not been a reputable source for 20 years+
Imagine how much better things would be if we had a media most people trusted. That disappeared decades ago.
I guess I don't understand this. The husband and I rarely talk about work via text. I mean, we are married. We talk about it in person. Why would he need to text his wife and brother and attorney anything related to missions. Seems weird.
Hegseth was texting his wife and brother and attorney mission related information???
LINK???
You guys are so broken its actually hilarious. You're losing so bad that you are now having to try to resusitate someone's drinking to make a half point of moral outrage.Burpelson said:
If true dude is back on the sauce, seriously this dude has something wrong between the ears.
Meanwhile America is rapidly being fixed....
I guarantee their internal polling numbers came back on Garcia and they're realizing it's a awful issue for them so they're pivoting back to this signalgate nonsense as apparently it showed some traction with their polling from the first iteration.
I know on this forum the first signalgate was like freaking catnip to the liberals, so many dormant accounts popped up to put in their two cents so I'm guessing that resonated with their base. Not surprised they're going back to that well.
I know on this forum the first signalgate was like freaking catnip to the liberals, so many dormant accounts popped up to put in their two cents so I'm guessing that resonated with their base. Not surprised they're going back to that well.
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Sources.
Sources recently told me some Maryland Father of the Year was deported for no reason at all. Snatched up from his loving family and sent to a torture camp. One of our fine senators went down there and showed us the cigarette burns and massive bruising/busted bones from all the torture.
I'm going to have to wait a while to see this play out a little longer before I believe these sources.
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Sources recently told me some Maryland Father of the Year was deported for no reason at all. Snatched up from his loving family and sent to a torture camp. One of our fine senators went down there and showed us the cigarette burns and massive bruising/busted bones from all the torture.
I'm going to have to wait a while to see this play out a little longer before I believe these sources.
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if anything it's almost a blessing he happened to **** up by sharing these details to a journalist so we'd know about it. for all we know hegseth would have spent the entire term blabbing irresponsibly like this if he wasn't caught.
he's obviously unqualified and should step down or be fired but because the trump administration has a terminal case of adolescent oppositional defiant disorder, they'll let him get away with anything rather than admit a mistake. the incompetence is the point.
he's obviously unqualified and should step down or be fired but because the trump administration has a terminal case of adolescent oppositional defiant disorder, they'll let him get away with anything rather than admit a mistake. the incompetence is the point.
The left is truly angry. LOL.
They're polling in the low 20's, of course they're pissed lol. They've latched onto "chaos" and have been workshoping it with their focus groups and hoping one of these hit pieces will finally land.bobbranco said:
The left is truly angry. LOL.
Oh, and don't forget daily praying to their gods for the economy to crater. What a fun bunch they are.
He is?Old McDonald said:
if anything it's almost a blessing he happened to **** up by sharing these details to a journalist so we'd know about it. for all we know hegseth would have spent the entire term blabbing irresponsibly like this if he wasn't caught.
he's obviously unqualified
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sounds like OMD's boy Vindman.Ellis Wyatt said:He is?Old McDonald said:
if anything it's almost a blessing he happened to **** up by sharing these details to a journalist so we'd know about it. for all we know hegseth would have spent the entire term blabbing irresponsibly like this if he wasn't caught.
he's obviously unqualified
Of course!!!! It's his WIFE!!!Pumpkinhead said:
That article says Hegseth brought his WIFE to the PENTAGON and she sat in two meetings there with UK and NATO military officials where work-related conversations were conducted.
That incident alone right there should be easy enough for any investigation to verify and if verified then I'd fire him. That would be amateurish behavior that presumably nobody else in the Pentagon would be allowed to get away with without getting fired. even putting all the 'SignalGate'' stuff aside. Why you'd ever bring your WIFE to the PENTAGON much less sit in on any meeting would be incomprehensible. WTF incomprehensible.
Never mind that she's a journalist. We all know that journalists cannot be in the room when it happens... They must be leaked the information in a dark alley by "unnamed" sources with an axe to grind.
That's how it's supposed to work, right?
BadMoonRisin said:sounds like OMD's boy Vindman.Ellis Wyatt said:He is?Old McDonald said:
if anything it's almost a blessing he happened to **** up by sharing these details to a journalist so we'd know about it. for all we know hegseth would have spent the entire term blabbing irresponsibly like this if he wasn't caught.
he's obviously unqualified
This fat tub of goo would never pass any fitness exams Hegseth requires now.
BadMoonRisin said:sounds like OMD's boy Vindman.Ellis Wyatt said:He is?Old McDonald said:
if anything it's almost a blessing he happened to **** up by sharing these details to a journalist so we'd know about it. for all we know hegseth would have spent the entire term blabbing irresponsibly like this if he wasn't caught.
he's obviously unqualified
Good point. What did Trump do to Vindman? I think the answer to that question will provide clarity on what needs to be done with Hegseth.
Actually it has everything to do with Biden. If you make a generalized statement about competence and experience following your deafening silence during the experience and INcompetence of the prior administration, it most certainly should be noted the absolute hypocricy with which you make said generalized statement.Old McDonald said:it has nothing to do with biden, but whataboutism noted. there were any number of competent conservatives with pentagon leadership experience trump could have selected for this role and instead he chose a brown-nosing fox host.mslags97 said:Old McDonald said:
this is what happens when you malign competence and experience as "swamp" and substitute it for sycophants and brown nosers
Is this supposed to be sarcasm? Because anyone trying to say there was any semblance of competence with the Biden/harris catastrophe of an administration needs to be admitted to a mental hospital.
And brown-nosing fox host ad hominem aside, we both know why Hegseth was chosen... To clean out the political riff raff that allowed mission drift of the Pentagon as a whole from a fighting force to a DEI experience.
He's doing that. And we're seeing the expected whining as a result.
Old McDonald said:
if anything it's almost a blessing he happened to **** up by sharing these details to a journalist so we'd know about it. for all we know hegseth would have spent the entire term blabbing irresponsibly like this if he wasn't caught.
he's obviously unqualified and should step down or be fired but because the trump administration has a terminal case of adolescent oppositional defiant disorder, they'll let him get away with anything rather than admit a mistake. the incompetence is the point.
Yeah, and that laptop wasn't Hunter Biden's…
You guys are beyond despicable. Liars. All of you.
He would have been impeached AGAIN if he had done anything to Vindman. As you well know. Eric Ciamarella's name could not even be publicly mentioned, even though he was the fake whisteblower who lied to start the ball rolling.Quote:
Good point. What did Trump do to Vindman? I think the answer to that question will provide clarity on what needs to be done with Hegseth.
Vindman is a seditionist, at best.
Old McDonald said:
if anything it's almost a blessing he happened to **** up by sharing these details to a journalist so we'd know about it. for all we know hegseth would have spent the entire term blabbing irresponsibly like this if he wasn't caught.
he's obviously unqualified and should step down or be fired but because the trump administration has a terminal case of adolescent oppositional defiant disorder, they'll let him get away with anything rather than admit a mistake. the incompetence is the point.
Show me where you called for Biden's SecDef to be fired after Afghanistan….. show me that post. You know, the time when the incompetence actually cost American Lives.
Again…. The idiocy from the left is just insane. The hypocrisy is other-worldly.
Never trust any leftist or any of their institutions, especially when it comes to anything even remotely involving politics. Lying is a critical part of their warped evil pagan religion. It's actually considered "noble" and "virtuous" to lie, cheat, destroy, and even harm and kill others in order to advance a cause for the liberal faith.
Make no mistake...almost every single living democrat would have celebrated, at least inwardly, had Trump had his head blown off on live TV in Butler, PA.
It's basically both a large religion AND a hate group. Anti-Christs.
Make no mistake...almost every single living democrat would have celebrated, at least inwardly, had Trump had his head blown off on live TV in Butler, PA.
It's basically both a large religion AND a hate group. Anti-Christs.
Ellis Wyatt said:He would have been impeached AGAIN if he had done anything to Vindman. As you well know. Eric Ciamarella's name could not even be publicly mentioned, even though he was the fake whisteblower who lied to start the ball rolling.Quote:
Good point. What did Trump do to Vindman? I think the answer to that question will provide clarity on what needs to be done with Hegseth.
Vindman is a seditionist, at best.
Well Trump fired Vindman so…
Hegseth put men under his command at risk by compromising operational security (at this point it appears he shared the info with a reporter accidentally, and his wife, brother and lawyer ON PURPOSE. This is a complete embarrassment for the admin and if they sweep it under the rug it sets an awful precedent.
Did he?rootube said:Ellis Wyatt said:
He would have been impeached AGAIN if he had done anything to Vindman. As you well know. Eric Ciamarella's name could not even be publicly mentioned, even though he was the fake whisteblower who lied to start the ball rolling.
Vindman is a seditionist, at best.
Well Trump fired Vindman so…
Hegseth put men under his command at risk by compromising operational security
I had to look it up but yes it appears he did.
What happened?rootube said:
I had to look it up but yes it appears he did.
how is that no one has ever heard of John Ullyot before!?
Makes sense!
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Some reported and verifiable facts:
— AG (@AGHamilton29) April 21, 2025
DoD hired Dan Caldwell, someone who is very skeptical of any intervention in the ME and has/still openly opposes any aggressive action again at Tehran. He helps push several more non-interventionist hires.
Tucker extensively praised him as…
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Ellis Wyatt said:What happened?rootube said:
I had to look it up but yes it appears he did.
He fired Vindman and Gordon Sondland for what he called "insubordination" and "Problems with Judgement", after they testified.
While this may be, those that have not regularly handled classified data also are proving they do not understand OpSec and Security classification guides. Just because a program uses a high level encryption does not mean it is appropriate for disseminating sensitive data.Pinochet said:D`Funkaladu` said:Kenneth_2003 said:
It's a FREE app! Heck I used it for a project we did on the border a few years back. You can download it in the app store.
While the DHS guess and the "former" (I know) Marine that worked for us swore by it... I have real doubts
Signal itself is fine. It's secure until you include someone that isn't trustworthy in the chat.
Once again the olds on F16 are proving they don't understand technology. They want to find a boogie man so they'll blame whoever they can without any idea if it even could be true. Signal is E2E encrypted and the keys are not stored anywhere except on your device. The Signal Foundation (yes, it's a nonprofit) can't just read all your chats. That's the point.
Im Gipper said:
Makes sense!Some reported and verifiable facts:
— AG (@AGHamilton29) April 21, 2025
DoD hired Dan Caldwell, someone who is very skeptical of any intervention in the ME and has/still openly opposes any aggressive action again at Tehran. He helps push several more non-interventionist hires.
Tucker extensively praised him as…
Yep. These guys weren't on board with forever wars and got axed as a result. Mike Waltz leaks to the Atlantic and nothing happens. The blob always gets what it wants.
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