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what experience does hegseth have leading large organizations or military units? what about large-scale crisis management?

but he went to harvard and served in the military! okay, so did pete buttigieg

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Went to PRINCETON, and THEN Harvard...and was an O-4

He was also Executive Director of Vets for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America. So he had led organizations before.

And Pete Buttigieg (O-2) was Secretary of Transportion after his other huge job - Mayor of South Bend. I don't remember you complaining about his qualifications for those 4 years. (I don't remember because you never did).

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Just another example of pure hypocrisy from the left, the libs, and the dems….

And in every measure Mayor Pete was a failure as the mayor of a town with a population of 100,000…..

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Speaking of DEI hires...a complete chest-feeding failure as Secretary of Transportation. Absolute clown show that was never criticized by the left for his ineptitude.

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It's (D)ifferent.

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And brown-nosing fox host ad hominem aside, we both know why Hegseth was chosen... To clean out the political riff raff that allowed mission drift of the Pentagon as a whole from a fighting force to a DEI experience.

He's doing that. And we're seeing the expected whining as a result.

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this is obviously untrue, considering hegseth himself is the poster child of DEI hires

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I'm guessing you don't know what DEI means…. Sometimes I can't even begin to understand how incredibly moronic these comments are…. Or where they come from.

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unqualified person hired to a position because of a favored characteristic unrelated to their actual ability to perform the job? yeah that's hegseth to a tee.

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So can I take this as your admission that the entire DEI debacle unter the prior administration was a sham? That Secretary Austin's strong promotion of DEI in the military was, as you say, advocation for hiring unqualified persons becaue of a favored characteristic unrelated to their actual ability to perform the job?

Perhaps we are making progress, OM.

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I loved the Pete Hegseth pick initially. But now after seeing this unrelenting campaign to smear and destroy him, I love the pick even more. We all need to rally around him. This coordinated hit job cannot be allowed to succeed.

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) April 21, 2025

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There is another vital role that Hegseth is now playing as a result of these continued attacks from the left and other opponents of this administraton....

Point man taking fire.

The left has actually overplayed their hand, and in their exuberance of going after Hegseth, and believing that ANOTHER attack for the same successful event 6 weeks ago will somehow get traction, the targeting of Hegseth is getting all the air time... and keeping heat off of Trump and the remainder of the Cabinet.

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There is another vital role that Hegseth is now playing as a result of these continued attacks from the left and other opponents of this administraton....

Point man taking fire.

The left has actually overplayed their hand, and in their exuberance of going after Hegseth, and believing that ANOTHER attack for the same successful event 6 weeks ago will somehow get traction, the targeting of Hegseth is getting all the air time... and keeping heat off of Trump and the remainder of the Cabinet.

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Its a great point you make here.

How much are we hearing on DOGE and the Elon Musk / Big Ballz cutting off Grandma's medicare and SSA payments? Of course, lots of folks on here were critical of DOGE being out there daily with announcements and I am sure now they will complain "its been weeks since Elon and his team have done anything!".

Dems are playing a desperate game of whack-a-mole and Team Trump keeps producing the rodents faster than Dems can swing the whacker. Debunking MSM, CM and lib gotchya's seems to happen within hours keeping them running around like a furry puppy on a polished wood floor.

"Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth pulled the airstrike information he posted into Signal chats with his wife, brother and dozens of others from a secure communications channel used by U.S. Central Command, raising new questions as to whether the embattled Pentagon head leaked classified information over an open, unsecured network.

NBC News first reported that the launch times and bomb drop times of U.S. warplanes that were about to strike Houthi targets in Yemen details that multiple officials have said are highly classified were taken from secure U.S. Central Command communications. A person familiar with the second chat confirmed that to The Associated Press."

AGAIN

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"Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth pulled the airstrike information he posted into Signal chats with his wife, brother and dozens of others from a secure communications channel used by U.S. Central Command, raising new questions as to whether the embattled Pentagon head leaked classified information over an open, unsecured network.

NBC News first reported that the launch times and bomb drop times of U.S. warplanes that were about to strike Houthi targets in Yemen details that multiple officials have said are highly classified were taken from secure U.S. Central Command communications. A person familiar with the second chat confirmed that to The Associated Press."

AGAIN

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If the media isn't full of ***** Which they frequently are when it comes to anything a Republican does.

I'm sure these messages can be easily produced to show they're not lying right?

Nothingburger.

Move on.

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"Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth pulled the airstrike information he posted into Signal chats with his wife, brother and dozens of others from a secure communications channel used by U.S. Central Command, raising new questions as to whether the embattled Pentagon head leaked classified information over an open, unsecured network.

NBC News first reported that the launch times and bomb drop times of U.S. warplanes that were about to strike Houthi targets in Yemen details that multiple officials have said are highly classified were taken from secure U.S. Central Command communications. A person familiar with the second chat confirmed that to The Associated Press."

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are we restarting the thread over again after 6 pages? or does the AP article you linked have new or different info from the link in the OP?

...because we've already had responses from the press sec, POTUS, and the def sec himself since the OP.

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"Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth pulled the airstrike information he posted into Signal chats with his wife, brother and dozens of others from a secure communications channel used by U.S. Central Command, raising new questions as to whether the embattled Pentagon head leaked classified information over an open, unsecured network.

NBC News first reported that the launch times and bomb drop times of U.S. warplanes that were about to strike Houthi targets in Yemen details that multiple officials have said are highly classified were taken from secure U.S. Central Command communications. A person familiar with the second chat confirmed that to The Associated Press."

AGAIN

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are we restarting the thread over again after 6 pages? or does the AP article you linked have new or different info from the link in the OP?

...because we've already had responses from the press sec, POTUS, and the def sec himself since the OP.

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Just thought it was interesting that the classified source of Hegseth's Signal chat information has been identified, is all. <shrug>

Military recruitment is going THROUGH THE ROOF.

🇺🇸🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/UzBBPwmz7F

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) April 22, 2025

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"Anonymous sources..."

Guess it is back to this since nothing else the Democrats have tried has worked.

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Or like my wife's grandfather would say when you questioned him about something, "You know how I know? An expert told me." We would just laugh because we never learned the name of the "expert".

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Just thought it was interesting that the classified source of Hegseth's Signal chat information has been identified, is all. <shrug>

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Does Hegseth have classification authority?

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74OA said:

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"Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth pulled the airstrike information he posted into Signal chats with his wife, brother and dozens of others from a secure communications channel used by U.S. Central Command, raising new questions as to whether the embattled Pentagon head leaked classified information over an open, unsecured network.

NBC News first reported that the launch times and bomb drop times of U.S. warplanes that were about to strike Houthi targets in Yemen details that multiple officials have said are highly classified were taken from secure U.S. Central Command communications. A person familiar with the second chat confirmed that to The Associated Press."

AGAIN

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are we restarting the thread over again after 6 pages? or does the AP article you linked have new or different info from the link in the OP?

...because we've already had responses from the press sec, POTUS, and the def sec himself since the OP.

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Just thought it was interesting that the classified source of Hegseth's Signal chat information has been identified, is all. <shrug>

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Or, the media has decided to lie and say it came from a classified source knowing full well they never have to prove or back up their allegations.

Guilt by accusation...

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Just thought it was interesting that the classified source of Hegseth's Signal chat information has been identified, is all. <shrug>

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Does Hegseth have classification authority?

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he does, but he has to do something with that authority before he shares the classified info with his wife and friends.

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Just thought it was interesting that the classified source of Hegseth's Signal chat information has been identified, is all. <shrug>

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Does Hegseth have classification authority?

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he does, but he has to do something with that authority before he shares the classified info with his wife and friends.

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Good thing he didn't share classified info, then.

The histrionics are amazing.

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Just thought it was interesting that the classified source of Hegseth's Signal chat information has been identified, is all. <shrug>

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Does Hegseth have classification authority?

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he does, but he has to do something with that authority before he shares the classified info with his wife and friends.

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Good thing he didn't share classified info, then.

The histrionics are amazing.

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that's the exact term that comes to mind for someone that feels the need to share a fairly ho hum military strike with his friends and family over a chat, live. Most of us that have been there, done that just keep it quiet and move on about our day.

But again, we are just re-hashing old news because some leakers got fired.

Complete nothingburger.

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But again, we are just re-hashing old news because some leakers got fired.

Complete nothingburger.

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maybe…new news in the last few days:

-he likes to mix work, family, and friends. Kind of odd.
-he got the material from a classified chat room. I figured that was the case just because of the phrasing used etc.

Trump won't fire him now because it will be egg on the face and the left has been historically terrible with classified as well. Not a big deal other than Pete continues to look immature.

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this is what happens when you malign competence and experience as "swamp" and substitute it for sycophants and brown nosers

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Is this supposed to be sarcasm? Because anyone trying to say there was any semblance of competence with the Biden/harris catastrophe of an administration needs to be admitted to a mental hospital.

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it has nothing to do with biden, but whataboutism noted. there were any number of competent conservatives with pentagon leadership experience trump could have selected for this role and instead he chose a brown-nosing fox host.

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You really mean their are numerous neocon flunkies' that you lefties would have been happy for Trump to appoint. Pretending this is anything but an ideological attack from the necon circle jerk and their friends in the leftist's media echo clamber is a joke,

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this is what happens when you malign competence and experience as "swamp" and substitute it for sycophants and brown nosers

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Is this supposed to be sarcasm? Because anyone trying to say there was any semblance of competence with the Biden/harris catastrophe of an administration needs to be admitted to a mental hospital.

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it has nothing to do with biden, but whataboutism noted. there were any number of competent conservatives with pentagon leadership experience trump could have selected for this role and instead he chose a brown-nosing fox host.

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You really mean their are numerous neocon flunkies' that you lefties would have been happy for Trump to appoint. Pretending this is anything but an ideological attack from the necon circle jerk and their friends in the leftist's media echo clamber is a joke,

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No, any O-5 from Army or Navy SOF would have been an upgrade to the platoon commander we currently have.

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this is what happens when you malign competence and experience as "swamp" and substitute it for sycophants and brown nosers

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Is this supposed to be sarcasm? Because anyone trying to say there was any semblance of competence with the Biden/harris catastrophe of an administration needs to be admitted to a mental hospital.

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it has nothing to do with biden, but whataboutism noted. there were any number of competent conservatives with pentagon leadership experience trump could have selected for this role and instead he chose a brown-nosing fox host.

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You really mean their are numerous neocon flunkies' that you lefties would have been happy for Trump to appoint. Pretending this is anything but an ideological attack from the necon circle jerk and their friends in the leftist's media echo clamber is a joke,

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No, any O-5 from Army or Navy SOF would have been an upgrade to the platoon commander we currently have.

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Could have had Clinton's Chief of Status Panetta...

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Old McDonald said:

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this is what happens when you malign competence and experience as "swamp" and substitute it for sycophants and brown nosers

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Is this supposed to be sarcasm? Because anyone trying to say there was any semblance of competence with the Biden/harris catastrophe of an administration needs to be admitted to a mental hospital.

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it has nothing to do with biden, but whataboutism noted. there were any number of competent conservatives with pentagon leadership experience trump could have selected for this role and instead he chose a brown-nosing fox host.

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You really mean their are numerous neocon flunkies' that you lefties would have been happy for Trump to appoint. Pretending this is anything but an ideological attack from the necon circle jerk and their friends in the leftist's media echo clamber is a joke,

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No, any O-5 from Army or Navy SOF would have been an upgrade to the platoon commander we currently have.

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Huh...seems a few O-5's and O-6's have made the news lately for being insubordinate or flat out stupid. So no, plenty of field and flag officers that would not be an upgrade.

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Just thought it was interesting that the classified source of Hegseth's Signal chat information has been identified, is all. <shrug>

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Does Hegseth have classification authority?

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he does, but he has to do something with that authority before he shares the classified info with his wife and friends.

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Good thing he didn't share classified info, then.

The histrionics are amazing.

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that's the exact term that comes to mind for someone that feels the need to share a fairly ho hum military strike with his friends and family over a chat, live. Most of us that have been there, done that just keep it quiet and move on about our day.

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Then explain why our .mil and federal government has more leaks than the Iraqi navy?

My Lord the blinders are insane.

the actual report in the NY Times stated "some" of what General Kurilla had sent to Hegseth was then texted by Hegseth in the Signal chat.

meaning it could have been simply "we just hit Yemen 5 minutes ago"

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Just thought it was interesting that the classified source of Hegseth's Signal chat information has been identified, is all. <shrug>

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Does Hegseth have classification authority?

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he does, but he has to do something with that authority before he shares the classified info with his wife and friends.

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Good thing he didn't share classified info, then.

The histrionics are amazing.

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that's the exact term that comes to mind for someone that feels the need to share a fairly ho hum military strike with his friends and family over a chat, live. Most of us that have been there, done that just keep it quiet and move on about our day.

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Then explain why our .mil and federal government has more leaks than the Iraqi navy?

My Lord the blinders are insane.

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sure, there are those that can't follow the rules…they are typically fired.

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this is what happens when you malign competence and experience as "swamp" and substitute it for sycophants and brown nosers

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Is this supposed to be sarcasm? Because anyone trying to say there was any semblance of competence with the Biden/harris catastrophe of an administration needs to be admitted to a mental hospital.

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it has nothing to do with biden, but whataboutism noted. there were any number of competent conservatives with pentagon leadership experience trump could have selected for this role and instead he chose a brown-nosing fox host.

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You really mean their are numerous neocon flunkies' that you lefties would have been happy for Trump to appoint. Pretending this is anything but an ideological attack from the necon circle jerk and their friends in the leftist's media echo clamber is a joke,

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No, any O-5 from Army or Navy SOF would have been an upgrade to the platoon commander we currently have.

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Huh...seems a few O-5's and O-6's have made the news lately for being insubordinate or flat out stupid. So no, plenty of field and flag officers that would not be an upgrade.

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I didn't say any O-5…

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this is what happens when you malign competence and experience as "swamp" and substitute it for sycophants and brown nosers

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Is this supposed to be sarcasm? Because anyone trying to say there was any semblance of competence with the Biden/harris catastrophe of an administration needs to be admitted to a mental hospital.

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it has nothing to do with biden, but whataboutism noted. there were any number of competent conservatives with pentagon leadership experience trump could have selected for this role and instead he chose a brown-nosing fox host.

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You really mean their are numerous neocon flunkies' that you lefties would have been happy for Trump to appoint. Pretending this is anything but an ideological attack from the necon circle jerk and their friends in the leftist's media echo clamber is a joke,

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No, any O-5 from Army or Navy SOF would have been an upgrade to the platoon commander we currently have.

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Huh...seems a few O-5's and O-6's have made the news lately for being insubordinate or flat out stupid. So no, plenty of field and flag officers that would not be an upgrade.

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I didn't say any O-5…

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The US Army has Platoon Leaders and Company Commanders.

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this is what happens when you malign competence and experience as "swamp" and substitute it for sycophants and brown nosers

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Is this supposed to be sarcasm? Because anyone trying to say there was any semblance of competence with the Biden/harris catastrophe of an administration needs to be admitted to a mental hospital.

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it has nothing to do with biden, but whataboutism noted. there were any number of competent conservatives with pentagon leadership experience trump could have selected for this role and instead he chose a brown-nosing fox host.

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You really mean their are numerous neocon flunkies' that you lefties would have been happy for Trump to appoint. Pretending this is anything but an ideological attack from the necon circle jerk and their friends in the leftist's media echo clamber is a joke,

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No, any O-5 from Army or Navy SOF would have been an upgrade to the platoon commander we currently have.

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Huh...seems a few O-5's and O-6's have made the news lately for being insubordinate or flat out stupid. So no, plenty of field and flag officers that would not be an upgrade.

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I didn't say any O-5…

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The US Army has Platoon Leaders and Company Commanders.

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oh, thank you…was Pete ever a company commander prior to making Major?

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the actual report in the NY Times stated "some" of what General Kurilla had sent to Hegseth was then texted by Hegseth in the Signal chat.

meaning it could have been simply "we just hit Yemen 5 minutes ago"

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Interesting. I just went over the OP, and the link to the article from the Independent. There is no concrete timeline of this second Signal chat. The NYT simply stated "upcoming military strike" on March 15th, the day of the strike. There was a second note that the source stated that Hegseth did this at "approximately" the same time as the original SignalGate texts.

Lot of wiggle room there. So was that 2 hours before the strike?, 15 minutes before the strike?, while the planes were in the air?, or... After the strike was completed?

We're left to conjecture based upon 3 words, and the word "approximately" in the article.

I've seen this playbook before.

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LMCane said:

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the actual report in the NY Times stated "some" of what General Kurilla had sent to Hegseth was then texted by Hegseth in the Signal chat.

meaning it could have been simply "we just hit Yemen 5 minutes ago"

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Interesting. I just went over the OP, and the link to the article from the Independent. There is no concrete timeline of this second Signal chat. The NYT simply stated "upcoming military strike" on March 15th, the day of the strike. There was a second note that the source stated that Hegseth did this at "approximately" the same time as the original SignalGate texts.

Lot of wiggle room there. So was that 2 hours before the strike?, 15 minutes before the strike?, while the planes were in the air?, or... After the strike was completed?

We're left to conjecture based upon 3 words, and the word "approximately" in the article.

I've seen this playbook before.

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I'm just wondering what his wife texted back. "Great job, hon!"….my wife would have asked me why she should care about this stuff.

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But again, we are just re-hashing old news because some leakers got fired.

Complete nothingburger.

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maybe…new news in the last few days:

-he likes to mix work, family, and friends. Kind of odd.
-he got the material from a classified chat room. I figured that was the case just because of the phrasing used etc.

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Where is the evidence of that?

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Interesting. I just went over the OP, and the link to the article from the Independent. There is no concrete timeline of this second Signal chat. The NYT simply stated "upcoming military strike" on March 15th, the day of the strike. There was a second note that the source stated that Hegseth did this at "approximately" the same time as the original SignalGate texts.

Lot of wiggle room there. So was that 2 hours before the strike?, 15 minutes before the strike?, while the planes were in the air?, or... After the strike was completed?

We're left to conjecture based upon 3 words, and the word "approximately" in the article.

I've seen this playbook before.

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In other words, recycled information. Nothing new.

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Pete Hegseth had a signal chat with his wife
and it’s the end of the world..

Meanwhile the democrats.... pic.twitter.com/TEGYKbx0NS

— Alex Jones (@RealAlexJones) April 21, 2025

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Genius

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But again, we are just re-hashing old news because some leakers got fired.

Complete nothingburger.

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maybe…new news in the last few days:

-he likes to mix work, family, and friends. Kind of odd.
-he got the material from a classified chat room. I figured that was the case just because of the phrasing used etc.

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Where is the evidence of that?

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you think he just had all of that memorized? Multiple news sources which we can all agree are fake…but I do wonder where he could have possibly got that detailed timeline from.