Massie introduces petition to force vote for full release of Epstein files

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[These Epstein threads are converging, and we are consolidating them into this thread https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3548558 -- Staff]





BMX Bandit
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Doing this because he hates Trump.
Yukon Cornelius
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Or it's the right thing to do.
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Doing this because Massie is all about Massie.

Going to be fun to watch him flame out.

Regarding Epstein, Kudlow and friends had a bit on it today. I tend to agree with what they said. Will locate link when I get the chance.
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BMX Bandit said:

Doing this because he hates Trump.



It was one of the loudest campaign promises. Trump's crawfishing leaves a stain on the entire GOP going into next year's elections.
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Trump says its all a made up Democrat hoax, sounds like he's doing Trump a favor by forcing the hoax to be exposed
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It was one of the loudest campaign promises.


That's not true at all!

BTW, I think it's outrageous & indefensible that this is being dropped and how they've handled it has been abysmal.

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How was it one of his loudest campaign promises? It may just be me, but I don't remember him talking about it in comparison to everything involving illegals, economy, debt, etc.
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I will agree that the management of the messaging in all this has been utterly abysmal.

I agree it's a pretty big fumble by Trump and friends.

I just don't think there is the there there that people think or want to be there.

Is the downplay part of a conspiracy? Dunno.

But is this giving the non standard media to drive traffic? For sure.

The alt media lives the greenbacks as much as the legacy media does.
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I'd much prefer them to be spending time on small, specific topic bills and churning them out.

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Bunk Moreland
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SwigAg11 said:

How was it one of his loudest campaign promises? It may just be me, but I don't remember him talking about in comparison to everything involving illegals, economy, debt, etc.


Every single surrogate of his (including his family) pumped it at his rallies and he referenced it on multiple podcasts that he'd be willing to release it. He leaned heavily into it because it was MAGA red meat to the core.
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This is a small, specific bill lol
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Not only that, its impossible to drain the swamp by letting the government continue to investigate itself and finding no wrong doing, which is how they've handled this so far
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

I'd much prefer them to be spending time on small, specific topic bills and churning them out.


And I'd like to log into my bank account and see $100M in my savings. Both are equally likely.

Write your rep if you feel this is important to you!
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This is just one of many conspiracies that have taken on a life of their own due to social media and podcasters. The difference in the last few years is you now have politicians grabbing on to them because their voters like to believe them. Trump has certainly been a participant as have many others from both sides.

Edit to add: another factor is the old news media no longer investigates anything, but rely on the same social media and podcasters they complain about.
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You can pass all the laws you want, but the Epstein data will never see the light of day.
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BMX Bandit said:

Doing this because he hates Trump.



It's a complete disaster how Trump and team are handling this. AT BEST, they used this disgusting sex scandal to hype up and energize their base (including me). At worst, Elon wasn't making his allegations up.

I'm torn, but either scenario is inexcusable. If this ends up being 42 degree chess, I'll gladly eat crow.

But the fact that he has the MF nerve to shame people for questioning it is pretty insulting.
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Then they should release the files and put the conspiracies to rest
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Clavell said:

This is just one of many conspiracies that have taken on a life of their own due to social media and podcasters. The difference in the last few years is you now have politicians grabbing on to them because their voters like to believe them. Trump has certainly been a participant as have many others from both sides.


So let's say Epstein and Ghislaine had no clients and it was all made up. Still shame on Trump, Bondi etc. for peddling it for political gain. That's what trash liberals do.
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PaulsBunions said:

Then they should release the files and put the conspiracies to rest


Yep, tell us SOMETHING. You played us for votes, now at least have the decency for some transparency, or some type of explanation. Don't blast us for asking questions about something you wanted us to be obsessing over just months ago.

Trump's "why are we still talking about this guy" BS is the opposite of transparency and makes him look stupid or crooked.
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SwigAg11 said:

How was it one of his loudest campaign promises? It may just be me, but I don't remember him talking about it in comparison to everything involving illegals, economy, debt, etc.

Don't you remember in Butler, he was just finishing up his chart about the Epstein files when a bullet grazed his ear!!!
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Don't disagree
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Good. All the demonic criminals on that list deserve to be outed and fry.
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It's amazing how many people still fall for political theater on both sides.
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So another one who cares more about shaming people than about getting convictions.

Because the best way to guarantee you will not get a conviction, is by flooding the internet with unverifiable accusations before any charges are filed.

If there is verifiable evidence of crimes by living people, then file charges and put them away. If it's all guilt by association and lets destroy some people because their names were in Epstein's contact list, then it's probably not worth the defamation lawsuits.
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Because the best way to guarantee you will not get a conviction, is by flooding the internet with unverifiable accusations before any charges are filed.


ACTHUALLLY the best way to guarantee no conviction is to not bring charges at all. Which is happening.

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The president says its all a hoax anyway so surely there couldnt possibly be a pending conviction anyway right?
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PaulsBunions said:



Trump says its all a made up Democrat hoax, sounds like he's doing Trump a favor by forcing the hoax to be exposed

There goes the midterms and 2028, tampons are back in boys bathrooms soon
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PaulsBunions said:



Trump says its all a made up Democrat hoax, sounds like he's doing Trump a favor by forcing the hoax to be exposed

People voted for this
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BMX Bandit said:

Doing this because he hates Trump.



I hope that is sarcasm, but I suspect it isn't.

Why would hate have anything to do with exposing a made up hoax, per your boy Trump? How does that hurt Trump?

I'll hang up and listen.
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Bunk Moreland said:

BMX Bandit said:

Doing this because he hates Trump.



It was one of the loudest campaign promises. Trump's crawfishing leaves a stain on the entire GOP going into next year's elections.

Yep, I am fine with a democrat or even Bernie Sanders forcing this to happen. Get it all out there and let the chips fall where they may.
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SwigAg11 said:

How was it one of his loudest campaign promises? It may just be me, but I don't remember him talking about it in comparison to everything involving illegals, economy, debt, etc.
I don't know if it was one of his loudest campaign promises, but it was certainly something they emphasized.



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Dafuq is giving the right such a huge chubbie over this Epstein *****

It is the most useless thing in any of Trump's promises...

Trump just got the SCOTUS go-ahead to start gutting the Dept. of Education. And MAGA goes BUT EPSTEIN!!!!!!!

And the left and the media is drooling over this new chance to split the MAGA coalition...

JFC...the right couldn't stop stepping on their own dick even if they didn't have feet.
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It's gonna be a really bad look if something like this goes through and it turns out the congress just forced the public release of a bunch of redacted child porn.

Would be an all time "stepping on your own dick" move
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If this is all made up, why is Gislaine in jail and why is her black book not public?

These are fair questions
 
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