Waffledynamics said:

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I just don't get it.

"I'm gonna trust my government and let them protect the most powerful pedophile ring in US history" https://t.co/TO4xa9pjKb pic.twitter.com/NhLLmaM32D

— Posts By Feds (@SuspectFed) July 15, 2025

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trump teed this up for the Left. Now his media infrastructure is going to either be brave and stand up to him, or like Kirk, cave in and play the 'let's move on' strategy.

If BTC hit $1M nobody would be talking about Epstein.

Bunk Moreland said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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Doing this because he hates Trump.

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It was one of the loudest campaign promises. Trump's crawfishing leaves a stain on the entire GOP going into next year's elections.

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Really? I'm looking for an actual promise made by Trump.

This from Forbs
Forbes

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Trump sounded hesitant when asked by Fox News in a June 2024 interview if he would declassify the Epstein files, telling the network he was less inclined to release the documents versus the documents on the government's investigations into the deaths of John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr.

Trump said "you don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there," referring to the Epstein files, but said he would "certainly" want to release more information about how Epstein died, because "that was a weird situation, and the cameras didn't have to be working."

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Even in June '24, a year ago, Trump realized Biden's boys had full access to do whatever they wanted to those files. He was hesitant then.

I don't remember him talking about it, so there is zero chance it was one of the loudest campaign promises. But, he may have said it.

But, what is going around now is an edited version that even Forbes has called bull*****

Big_Time_Timmy_Jim said:

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There is something here…Buried…connection to mossad, dirt on elites…something buried that Trump thought it was worth it to bury despite the rhetoric.

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With Biden's boys committing so many frauds, lies and coverup, he doesn't believe the files as they now exist are true.

Bayou City said:

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Bondi's the idiot for saying she had it on her desk which implied it was real and existed and they knew the contents. Thats the comment that's sunk the ship. They could blame it on who ever as long as they didn't yet have it. Now they can't and are trying to do just that. She really ****ed the poodle w that one.

She's an IDIOT.

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She should be fired.

I said back in February that Bondi was terrible on TV with all this hype, but firing her is not going to happen nor should it!

She is absolutely killing it as her actual Attorney General job! Her overselling something back when she had been on the job less than 6 weeks was dumb to be sure, but not remotely close to being fireable!

Trump loves her because she is killing it in the Courts and on dismantling the corrupt DoJ. Anyone that cares about results over optics should also!

AggieVictor10 said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸 US President Trump says the Epstein files are a "made-up" Democrat hoax. pic.twitter.com/6cKSUwzEWL

— Trump Truth Social Posts On X (@TrumpTruthOnX) July 15, 2025

Trump says its all a made up Democrat hoax, sounds like he's doing Trump a favor by forcing the hoax to be exposed

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People voted for this

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Right. That's the problem. People voted for a hoax. There is no list and almost certainly was no big ring of customers.

People have been voting for hoaxes my entire life. It used to be just a feature of the left(man made climate change, Russia) but fuels by the governments dishonesty over Covid(much of which happened during Trumps first term) in the last several years it has fully infected the right.

Trump just sold it because it was working and now it's biting him in the butt.



Last, we need to come to terms with that fact and move on. Trump is doing great things.

I suspect she is taking direction from Trump. There is no way she goes from "I have the list on my desk" to this on her own accord. And unless she gets a huge payoff or some other benefit, she can't be fired otherwise she will just out Trump to the public.

The good news is on a scan of FoxNews and CNNs mobile websites it is not mentioned on Fox and only one small piece on CNN.

But that is a headline that says 'Johnson and other Republicans pressing Trump on Epstein case.' That needs to end by Friday.

Deal with it and move on.

I too am suspicious that there was more to the Epstein mess than has been publicly disclosed, but I am also unwilling to presume it is a sure thing.

I am highly dubious that Trump, Bondi, Patel, Bongino, and the entire Biden DOJ and inner circle and the leaky ass hell Trump first administration would ALL dismiss the conspiracy allegations of a political extortion or manipulation scheme. I mean, even when it could have been used by anti-Trump radicals for a decade, not one person has ever leaked any hard evidence.

So far, we have only a creepy child porn and ephebephile rapist and his accomplice side piece. He was a wealthy hustler and socialite so he had a lot of relationships. Everything else is still highly suspicious but also totally circumstantial since nobody with any direct knowledge will openly talk, and there has been zero hard evidence of any actual extortion made public.

Funny how people twist themselves into knots on this, its either:

1) the whole thing is overblown and Epstein acted alone, in which case there'd be no harm in releasing the Epstein files to restore some faith in the DOJ.

2) Epstein wasn't working alone and the government is covering up sexual predators, in which case the ones involved should at least be named by releasing the Epstein files since the DOJ is doing nothing with what they're hiding from us.

aTmAg said:

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I suspect she is taking direction from Trump. .

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Really sniffed that one out you bloodhound you!

aTmAg said:

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I suspect she is taking direction from Trump. There is no way she goes from "I have the list on my desk" to this on her own accord. And unless she gets a huge payoff or some other benefit, she can't be fired otherwise she will just out Trump to the public.

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More likely she was playing to the quite large conspiracy hungry portion of the audience by feeding them some confirmation bias for attention since she has a history of attention seeking, and she recklessly implied more than she had to show.

I think it is almost sad how easy it is to sucker people into something they desperately want to believe is true. I also like to think the powerful are all themselves corrupt and evil and are manipulating eachother BUT I don't go beyong what evidence will actually support regarding how SURE I am willing to be over any one allegation. It makes me at least a little harder to manipulate. I have to wonder how many Russian and Chinese state agents are having a blast constantly egging on every element of the Epstein conspiracy theory and watching the chaos it so easily causes.

My guess is there's not enough evidence to do anything with. I think the most likely scenario is that Epstein was connected to a few other guys who into teen girls. He wasn't keeping his attraction to younger women/teens a secret, and those guys seem to find each other. Then they hid what they were doing in plain sight by bringing a long list of pols and celebrities to his house, his plane, and his island. Now it's an impossible task to sort out who is who.

>criticizes Trump daily for like a decade
>finally defends Trump on something
>it’s the Epstein list https://t.co/daDiXPDnsC pic.twitter.com/70V1eFc0hk

— Joe B (@AstroJoeB) July 15, 2025

As someone has previously said, the dems and fbi have had 16 years to "compile" additional "dossiers" on others if they were a client or not, to make this all one big happy family of corruption.

PaulsBunions said:

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Funny how people twist themselves into knots on this, its either:

1) the whole thing is overblown and Epstein acted alone, in which case there'd be no harm in releasing the Epstein files to restore some faith in the DOJ.

2) Epstein wasn't working alone and the government is covering up sexual predators, in which case the ones involved should at least be named by releasing the Epstein files since the DOJ is doing nothing with what they're hiding from us.

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I fail to see the middle ground there.

Edit: I think i misread your post. I see what you meant now.

Again, why isn't anyone in the know using this information against political enemies, as there must be hundreds of persons by now who would have seen at least part of the "evidence" in both parties. Not one leaked hard document or bit of media?

I heard Dan Abrams of all people make a really good point this week. Some caller said something like 'with all of those girls isn't it obvious that he shared them(or something) with clients or friends'.

Abrams said something like 'well, no. It seems counterintuitive that a pedophile would advertise.'

I agree with that.

If there is anything that is suspicious to me it is how little is reported about how he made his fortune. It is substantial, though not extraordinary considering who his friends and social circles were, and who he could have engaged as investors to manage. If anything will point anywhere, it will be financial forensics

1. Massie has severe TDS
2. Massie did nothing when Biden was POTUS on Epstein
3. Now that Trump is POTUS, Massie is throwing a fit

LMFAO!!!

Im Gipper said:

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aTmAg said:

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I suspect she is taking direction from Trump. .

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Really sniffed that one out you bloodhound you!

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There are people demanding she get fired. People who think that would happen apparently think she did this on her own. So it needed to be said.

Trump and co leveraged the Epstein issue throughout the campaign and earlier this year to score political clout, now that Trump says its all a Democrat hoax isn't Massie doing Trump a favor by exposing that hoax through releasing all the documents? MAGA should be delighted with Massie for this

MouthBQ98 said:

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aTmAg said:

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I suspect she is taking direction from Trump. There is no way she goes from "I have the list on my desk" to this on her own accord. And unless she gets a huge payoff or some other benefit, she can't be fired otherwise she will just out Trump to the public.

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More likely she was playing to the quite large conspiracy hungry portion of the audience by feeding them some confirmation bias for attention since she has a history of attention seeking, and she recklessly implied more than she had to show.

I think it is almost sad how easy it is to sucker people into something they desperately want to believe is true. I also like to think the powerful are all themselves corrupt and evil and are manipulating eachother BUT I don't go beyong what evidence will actually support regarding how SURE I am willing to be over any one allegation. It makes me at least a little harder to manipulate. I have to wonder how many Russian and Chinese state agents are having a blast constantly egging on every element of the Epstein conspiracy theory and watching the chaos it so easily causes.

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That's not more likely at all. Trump is clearly trying to suppress the Epstein story. He wouldn't be doing that, if Bondi pulled this out of her own ass to "play to the conspiracy nuts".

PaulsBunions said:

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Trump and co leveraged the Epstein issue throughout the campaign and earlier this year to score political clout, now that Trump says its all a Democrat hoax isn't Massie doing Trump a favor by exposing that hoax through releasing all the documents? MAGA should be delighted with Massie for this

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All I've seen is quotes from others. I've not seen Trump really even talking about it, much less making it a campaign issue. All I've seen is his quote a year ago where he clearly says he's hesitant due to Biden's boys ****ing with the files.

I honestly don't remember. I know it wasn't any huge deal for his campaign, not even one of his top 10 issues. Now, "lock her up" was a different matter. He did make that a huge part of his campaign. Epstein, not even close.

I'd love to see where he was pumping it during a campaign.

Page 1 of this very thread has the receipts lol

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3549481/replies/70532377

PaulsBunions said:

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Page 1 of this very thread has the receipts lol

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3549481/replies/70532377

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So, a tweet from TrumpWarRoom? That's it?

Trump's actual words shows he was hesitant after that tweet and well before the election.

PaulsBunions said:

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Page 1 of this very thread has the receipts lol

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3549481/replies/70532377

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Hold up now!

What you claim as a "receipt" is an edited clip.

Here is the full exchange:

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[justify]C[/justify]
Campos-Duffy: Would you declassify the Epstein files?

Trump: Yeah, yeah, I would.


Campos-Duffy: All right.

Trump: I guess I would. I think that less so because, you don't know, you don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there, because it's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world. But I think I would, or at least


Campos-Duffy: Do you think that would restore trust help restore trust.

Trump: Yeah. I don't know about Epstein so much as I do the others. Certainly about the way he died. It'd be interesting to find out what happened there, because that was a weird situation and the cameras didn't happen to be working, etc., etc. But yeah, I'd go a long way toward that one.
[justify][/justify]

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It should be noted that I already pointed this out to you on the thread below. Seems you are not arguing from an honest position on this.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3549389/replies/70529087

BoydCrowder13 said:

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Truthfully, I've never found the Epstein stuff that credible. At least not more so than many of the other theories on there on social media me.

But at the very least, the Trump crew knew that and decided to use an actual pedo scandal for political gain and accuse opponents of pedophilia. Even though they knew it was false. That is DISGUSTING behavior.

Don Jr and Kash were on the front lines talking about it.

And now they think so little of their supporter's intelligence that they are trying to change history and gaslight them into believing the Dems created the story.

And this is the "good" scenario.

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This. I've said on this board multiple times for months that it's highly unlikely there was some magic book in a safe detailing every person he ever had at his mansion in NYC or his island who was ****ing what girl or teen and any corroborating evidence he may or may not have kept on them, if he did at all.

He was investigated by multiple state and federal agencies and they don't all like to share notes. In many cases they specifically hate to share notes. So to think some DOJ 'Penske File' exists in a folder is just not a thing most likely.

Maybe he was an asset for the CIA, Mossad, or both. Maybe he was just a major pedo. Maybe he did keep dirt on powerful figures to enrich himself further. Maybe he didn't do any of it and was just a major creep and the powerful and hungry for lust tend to all end up swimming in similar circles. He was like a drug dealer of young girls for the powerful.

But they all went all in on not just saying it was real but "KNOWING" it was real. Constantly beating the drum over and over and using the lack of info coming out about Epstein as proof of a broken DOJ that protects the ultra powerful and all said they would get to the bottom.

If what Kash/Bongino released is their 100% true take, at least on his death, then fine. But between their own frustrations to get info from DOJ, Bondi's nightly tv appearances in the spotlight, the binder debacle, and her saying "IT IS ON MY DESK"....it's 100% valid to demand the Trump administration be much more straight and honest with the people than they have been. And simply saying "who cares" at this point isn't good enough.

They created the **** sandwich themselves. Now toss in Lara saying "Oh yeah there is more and more will come out, we promise!" Sounds mighty like "don't worry, real gov't cuts are coming later. Just gotta pass the BBB now!"

flown-the-coop said:

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In the list of things we suspect our government is lying about, Epstein files is in the same conspiracy area as UFOs.

People want to know but they are not going to stop their lives over it.

I would be much more interested in understanding the Trump assassination attempts, who ran Biden, and who is in Soros black book.

Epstein is where he belongs. Maxwell could do the right thing but she seems to have struggled with that her whole life.

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I agree with this post. All of those things we need to know, even though most of us know the answers to all of them, we want to see it brought to the rest of the American public who doesn't follow this closely. If it were, the Dems wouldn't win an election for a very long time. I think this is where a lot of people are frustrated.....we could absolutely bury them and the only people they'd have left in their base would be the radical wackos that are attempting to hijack their party.

Epstein - he was definitely trafficking children to elites, politicians, and Hollywood
Trump assassination attempts - Iran
Who ran Biden - Barry O
Soros black book - all of the high level Dems, Bill Gates, and other elites

I'd also add all of the Fauci stuff to this list and the true origin of Covid. I know that Fauci has a federal pardon, but he can still be brought to trail in any individual state.

The sad thing is that you're going to need mountains of evidence to be able to release any of this stuff. I sometimes watch the nightly panel on CNN, simply because I enjoy watching Scott Jennings destroy all of the lib lunatics they bring on (and the only time my TV will ever be tuned to that propaganda network). Last night they were talking about all of the "MAGA hoaxes" and the pizza gate being one of them. There is literally tons of video of these Hollywood celebs openly talking about pizza for the past 15 years, and we are to believe they truly just enjoy eating pizza? They're all sick f-cks and I wish we'd finally do something to expose them.

However, if Blondei, Patel, Bongino, etc can't do it, then bring in people who will. These issues are important to a lot of people....especially those with kids. Now in terms of Trump's priority, he's focusing on deportations, ending wars, keeping inflation low, etc which is great. But you can walk and chew gum at the same time......have these 3 people do their freaking jobs while Trump focuses on fixing what is broken in our country. I think if you want to unite a lot of people, releasing all of this info would definitely do it and would open people eyes to how corrupt the government is and how sick these elites/celebs are that the uneducated masses anoint as heroes.

If you actually watch the interview its Trump being asked point blank if he would declassify the files, and he says he would. Its not "just a tweet from Trump War Room".

Regardless, if Trump says its all a hoax now then there should be no problem releasing the files. Americans are sick of the fed covering up this stuff and that doesn't change because a guy with a red tie is in office instead of a guy with a blue tie.

agsalaska said:

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The good news is on a scan of FoxNews and CNNs mobile websites it is not mentioned on Fox and only one small piece on CNN.

But that is a headline that says 'Johnson and other Republicans pressing Trump on Epstein case.' That needs to end by Friday.

Deal with it and move on.

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No. This is what is going to shatter the system.

Left and Right align. Rulers Vs. The Ruled.

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[color=#000000]She's only killing it in the courts because the liberals are ******ed and flinging poo against the wall with these nonsense TROs and rulings that have zero basis in the law! The cases "win" themselves, the DOJ is just an observer. Anyone can see that.[/color]

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This is complete nonsense. She leads the legal team. They push the EOs and lawsuits. They are winning and she is at the helm. Your inability to give credit where credit is due shows you aren't being honest here. As does your false claim that she said "Client list" She never said that. She was asked about the client list and she said all of it was on her desk which clearly meant the entire file.

As I have said, she is terrible in front of cameras. But the "Scandal" of being bad in front of cameras will be gone long before midterms and Trump loves the job she is doing. So sit back and enjoy the great job she and Trump are doing overall.