Make DC Safe Again

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Horn_in_Aggieland
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Had a family vacation in DC during Trump's first term. Never felt unsafe but seems things have gone downhill since then? My history loving daughter wants to go back.
WestTexasAg
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We were just in DC a week ago. Didn't feel unsafe, but we were there in the middle of the day and didn't venture in to the rougher areas.

I did find it concerning that when we were shopping in the Georgetown area (very cool area), many of the stores had armed guards. There's obviously a reason for that.
TexasAggiesWin
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Oh my goodness, you want to be safe in the nation's capitol? How fascist of you! - Liberals
FCBlitz
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I moved to DC 2 years ago and it is ridiculously dangerous. You can walk around and there will be pockets of what appears to be safe. I can assure it is not.

I have been to two concerts, a hockey game and a basketball game. To walk from parking garage to venue is dangerous and you have to be on guard.

My first night to see Tangerine Dream ….we were caught in the middle of young black kids riding 4 wheelers and motocross bikes…..in traffic, doing wheelies, causing mayhem while being chased by cops on foot and in cars.


It was a weird scene. I also have known a number of folks during the short time I have been here that have been assaulted.

Yes it is plenty violent.
will25u
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DC has problems. Trump to the rescue?

Ag87H2O
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If the Democrats elected locally to run DC can't figure out how to keep it safe for both visitors and citizens, then federalize it and do it for them.

Last time I visited DC, if you were more than a block outside the main tourist areas you better have your head on a swivel. My mom got accosted by a vagrant a block off Lafayette Park just because she took a picture of a building and the vagrant didn't like it. Dad and I had to step in and push them back or she was going to grab the camera.

I'm fine with Republicans doing whatever they need to do to make our national capital safe. Democrats sure aren't getting the job done.
BigRobSA
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TexasAggiesWin said:

Oh my goodness, you want to be safe in the nation's capitol? How fascist of you! - Liberals

"Women and minorities hardest hit!" - also liberals
IIIHorn
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FCBlitz said:

I moved to DC 2 years ago and it is ridiculously dangerous. You can walk around and there will be pockets of what appears to be safe. I can assure it is not.

I have been to two concerts, a hockey game and a basketball game. To walk from parking garage to venue is dangerous and you have to be on guard.

My first night to see Tangerine Dream ….we were caught in the middle of young black kids riding 4 wheelers and motocross bikes…..in traffic, doing wheelies, causing mayhem while being chased by cops on foot and in cars.


It was a weird scene. I also have known a number of folks during the short time I have been here that have been assaulted.

Yes it is plenty violent.


Did the two concerts contain gratuitous violins?


( ...voice punctuated with a clap of distant thunder... )
Matt_ag98
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In the NCR right now and haven't heard of this
ts5641
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It's amazing how the question is even framed. They've created a narrative that to even question this is racist. If you criticize a city that majority black or brown it's because you're racist not because your culture is broken.
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Sounds like Mayor Muriel needs help. Cutting the grass, fixing the fountains, adding more judges and more prosecutors, and a new jail!
In other words, the liberal democrats running DC are not spending all that tax money wisely and are not getting the job done. More money please.

Imagine that…
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Horn_in_Aggieland said:



Had a family vacation in DC during Trump's first term. Never felt unsafe but seems things have gone downhill since then? My history loving daughter wants to go back.


Just did a vacation in DC for Memorial Day week this year. Right after the Jewish couple was shot and killed.

We didn't have any problems but doesn't mean anything.

Lots of crazies in DC
Rapier108
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Lots of crazies in DC

Many of them in Congress.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

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Lots of crazies in DC

Many of them in Congress.


What, this woman doesn't scream mental stability?

Logos Stick
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I'd move the oval office to some other location and let DC burn to the ground. We have all the tech to never have to do biz in DC again. That goes for Senators and House reps too.
HTownAg98
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Ag87H2O said:

If the Democrats elected locally to run DC can't figure out how to keep it safe for both visitors and citizens, then federalize it and do it for them.

It would take Congress passing legislation to overturn the Home Rule Act, and then passing other legislation to take it under federal control. That's not going to happen, as it would never get past a cloture vote in the senate.
LOYAL AG
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I went to DC for a couple of days in May to visit a buddy who lives in the city. I walked about 1/2 mile from their house to the local supermarket and smelled a lot of weed but never felt unsafe. It was broad daylight but it wasn't really any different than walking a few blocks in Dallas or Houston. My buddy is black and the vast majority of people I saw were black but all we did was smile and say "hello" to each other.

In general cities in America elect Democrats to lead them and as a result they are **** holes. That's obviously because Republicans are racist. But my short stay didn't make me feel like DC is different than any other blue city. Democrat leadership fails people everywhere, DC isn't unique in this regard.
Daveintx
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If you're gonna federalize it, then go ahead and cut some federal fundings to the state as well to offset
FlyRod
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https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/violent-crime-dc-hits-30-year-low
LMCane
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it's actually not worse than it was during Trump's first term.

it has always been a dangerous place for locals to live.

tourists are usually fine-

but there are a lot of homeless in the downtown ever since I first started law school at George Washington back in 1995.

but most of the city is much nicer and much more expensive to live than it was 30 years ago.
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FlyRod said:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/violent-crime-dc-hits-30-year-low

LOL. Probably full of inaccuracies.
Released in the darkness at the end of the corrupt Biden administration.
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FlyRod said:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/violent-crime-dc-hits-30-year-low

Cooking the books...

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DC police commander suspended, accused of changing crime statistics

A D.C. police commander is under investigation for allegedly making changes to crime statistics in his district.

The Metropolitan Police Department confirmed Michael Pulliam was placed on paid administrative leave in mid-May. That happened just a week after Pulliam filed an equal employment opportunity complaint against an assistant chief and the police union accused the department of deliberately falsifying crime data, according to three law enforcement sources familiar with the complaint.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander-suspended-crime-statistics/3959566/
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FlyRod said:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/violent-crime-dc-hits-30-year-low


Oh look who pops up to defend violent crime
Duffel Pud
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FlyRod said:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/violent-crime-dc-hits-30-year-low

Amazing what happens when you just stop prosecuting crimes. Those numbers really plummet!
TheEternalOptimist
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Do Chicago, Austin, Seattle, and Los Angeles next please.

There are good people who live in all of these Dem cities who are being victimized without reasonable policing.

Democrats only care about policing political "crimes". They don't care about policing actual crimes where the people are being victimized. The impact of Soros funded influence must end.
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FlyRod said:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/violent-crime-dc-hits-30-year-low

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander-suspended-crime-statistics/3959566/

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The union claims police supervisors in the department manipulate crime data to make it appear violent crime has fallen considerably compared to last year.

Edit: I see Gator92 already posted a link to this story.
blacksox
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I am interested to see to crime statistics that would warrant a sudden federal takeover. I have a strong feeling they do not exist as violent crime rates have been dropping for decades now in big cities. I suspect this is just more buttering up the public to Trump's abuses of federal power,
Brother Shamus
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If you want clean streets in a society that's apathetic about virtually anything related to civic duty then you have to rely on harsh police state to keep the veneer of peace. The experiment has failed as nobody really cares anymore.
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blacksox said:

I am interested to see to crime statistics that would warrant a sudden federal takeover. I have a strong feeling they do not exist as violent crime rates have been dropping for decades now in big cities. I suspect this is just more buttering up the public to Trump's abuses of federal power,

What crime statistics would be of interest?

I am interested in what crime data would be supportive of 'let's just let this thing keep going as-is.' I think this is 'change we can believe in.'

As I have family that live/work in the area, I admit to having a vested interest. Nothing is safe in town at this point, even at rush hour. It's absurd, and unacceptable, but that is what happens when Democrats run a city.
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nortex97 said:

blacksox said:

I am interested to see to crime statistics that would warrant a sudden federal takeover. I have a strong feeling they do not exist as violent crime rates have been dropping for decades now in big cities. I suspect this is just more buttering up the public to Trump's abuses of federal power,

What crime statistics would be of interest?

I am interested in what crime data would be supportive of 'let's just let this thing keep going as-is.' I think this is 'change we can believe in.'

As I have family that live/work in the area, I admit to having a vested interest. Nothing is safe in town at this point, even at rush hour. It's absurd, and unacceptable, but that is what happens when Democrats run a city.

This... isn't how statistics work or how this comparison would be done by an intellectually honest administration.

- is it 2024 or 2025
- if this is 2024 data ok
- that means crime is down 30% now
- oh that data is false? then where is this 2024 data from?
- no idea because no sources
- annualized? mid-year? Where did the other data come from?
- won't even get started on comparing 700k pop DC suburb to places like 8.8mil Bogota.. or simply ommited the other cities in the US more 'dangerous' than DC


They've invoked a never before used provision, related to emergencies, and they can't even give us numbers or what the emergency is? No data? Just stand at a podium and tell us the 'truth'.


But hey, maga loves them a good police state.
nortex97
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Is your argument that the 2024 murder rate is too low? I don't see any stats or sources you've provided, either.

What stats justify leaving DC as-is? Oh, maybe a leftist publication like The Hill can explain the duplicity in the claims crime is down;
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"To evade public scrutiny, MPD leadership is deliberately falsifying crime data, creating a false narrative of reduced crime while communities suffer," he added.
The apparent justification for using the two charges interchangeably is that felony threats and assault with a deadly weapon charges carry roughly equivalent sentences.
But because felony threats cases are not categorized as a violent crime, such charges skew D.C.'s reported violent crime statistics. Improperly declassifying violent crime directly undermines the community's faith in the data.
The City Council, the U.S. attorney and the D.C. attorney general must investigate this pattern, as the continued prevalence of these decisions ripples through the criminal justice system.
Misrepresentation of the prevalence of violent crime directly affects the Metropolitan Police Department's staffing, recruiting and retention, clearance rates on violent crimes, decisions on where to patrol, designation of Drug Free Zones, reporting to state and national criminal databases, City Council oversight and funding decisions.
It is fundamentally unfair to our patrol officers and our community members. Simply reducing the denominator does not reduce crime.

Or, what about the FBI, the left's favorite law enforcement body since at least 2016, if not J. Edgar Hoover's time:
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FBI Director Kash Patel: Director Patel notes that, in the last six months, over 4,000 child victims have been identified, found. The FBI and other authorities have intercepted 1,500 kg of fentanyl, enough to kill 115 million Americans. The FBI has arrested 19,000 people, double of this time last year. 270 of those arrested were traffickers of children. Murder rates are plummeting. "We will make D.C. safe again."

US Attorney Jeanine Pirro: "We all want a safe city." She cited too much violent crime being committed by "young punks," also stating, "they know we can't touch them because the laws are weak." She stated that emboldened criminals won't be getting away anymore. "It changes today."

Trump is right to do this, for the evergreen reason Dems always cite; the children. Throw bigoted LBJ's (D) 'great society' (of violence) into the **** can of history. And trust me or not, I have plenty of first-hand reports of the violence that is a daily fear/occurrence in DC.
LMCane
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Ag87H2O said:

If the Democrats elected locally to run DC can't figure out how to keep it safe for both visitors and citizens, then federalize it and do it for them.

Last time I visited DC, if you were more than a block outside the main tourist areas you better have your head on a swivel. My mom got accosted by a vagrant a block off Lafayette Park just because she took a picture of a building and the vagrant didn't like it. Dad and I had to step in and push them back or she was going to grab the camera.

I'm fine with Republicans doing whatever they need to do to make our national capital safe. Democrats sure aren't getting the job done.

it's been since before the Marion Barry Administration that DC was ever a "safe" city.

AggieKatie2
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I never go east of Convention Center when I visit. Never had a direct problem, but always on guard.
Old McDonald
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dc has 207% higher violent crime and 125% higher property crime than the 50-state average. democrats' laissez faire approach to policing and law enforcement is among their most stupid policy blunders of this century.
ETFan
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nortex97 said:

Is your argument that the 2024 murder rate is too low? I don't see any stats or sources you've provided, either.

What stats justify leaving DC as-is? Oh, maybe a leftist publication like The Hill can explain the duplicity in the claims crime is down;
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"To evade public scrutiny, MPD leadership is deliberately falsifying crime data, creating a false narrative of reduced crime while communities suffer," he added.
The apparent justification for using the two charges interchangeably is that felony threats and assault with a deadly weapon charges carry roughly equivalent sentences.
But because felony threats cases are not categorized as a violent crime, such charges skew D.C.'s reported violent crime statistics. Improperly declassifying violent crime directly undermines the community's faith in the data.
The City Council, the U.S. attorney and the D.C. attorney general must investigate this pattern, as the continued prevalence of these decisions ripples through the criminal justice system.
Misrepresentation of the prevalence of violent crime directly affects the Metropolitan Police Department's staffing, recruiting and retention, clearance rates on violent crimes, decisions on where to patrol, designation of Drug Free Zones, reporting to state and national criminal databases, City Council oversight and funding decisions.
It is fundamentally unfair to our patrol officers and our community members. Simply reducing the denominator does not reduce crime.

Or, what about the FBI, the left's favorite law enforcement body since at least 2016, if not J. Edgar Hoover's time:
Quote:

FBI Director Kash Patel: Director Patel notes that, in the last six months, over 4,000 child victims have been identified, found. The FBI and other authorities have intercepted 1,500 kg of fentanyl, enough to kill 115 million Americans. The FBI has arrested 19,000 people, double of this time last year. 270 of those arrested were traffickers of children. Murder rates are plummeting. "We will make D.C. safe again."

US Attorney Jeanine Pirro: "We all want a safe city." She cited too much violent crime being committed by "young punks," also stating, "they know we can't touch them because the laws are weak." She stated that emboldened criminals won't be getting away anymore. "It changes today."

Trump is right to do this, for the evergreen reason Dems always cite; the children. Throw bigoted LBJ's (D) 'great society' (of violence) into the **** can of history. And trust me or not, I have plenty of first-hand reports of the violence that is a daily fear/occurrence in DC.

I'm not the US government invoking a never-before-used provision to commander a cities' police department while also calling in the NG for a city that isn't an outlier to other US cities?

I'm not the one trying to post propaganda on official government channels to support said farce.

There's been a sharp decline in crime, including murder, according to the FBI report from this very thread, from January. So is crime down or up? FBI says down? Tweet and trump say up? Where is the tweet data from? It's from the FBI too I assume? All I can do is assume. See the issue?

Are we taking over other cities with similar or worse crime stats? DC isn't an outlier, so I assume they're setting up this "emergency" to be the norm.

Any reasonable person would see the slippery, authoritarian slope, but not through red glasses.
 
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