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🚨 "I am pleased to inform our many U.S.A. Patriots that I am designating ANTIFA, A SICK, DANGEROUS, RADICAL LEFT DISASTER, AS A MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION..." - President Donald J. Trump pic.twitter.com/irLHCkrX1n

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) September 18, 2025

This is good news, all kinds of rats are going to be running now!!

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...Antifa isn't an organized group though. Like, this is an empty designation.

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TommyBrady said:

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Antifa is an incredible threat to anybody who doesn't align with their views. There is no group in the country more violent than Antifa.

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I'm sorry you don't understand that "antifa" is a broad ideology, not a group.

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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samurai_science said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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oh no said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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...Antifa isn't an organized group though.

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yeah, neither is Hamas


you leftists love your terror, don't you?

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Wtf are you talking about? Hamas is an organized group with a literal council of leaders.

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ANTFA is organized and funded. It's well documented

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Who are the leaders of antifa and who is funding them?

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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samurai_science said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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oh no said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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...Antifa isn't an organized group though.

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yeah, neither is Hamas


you leftists love your terror, don't you?

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Wtf are you talking about? Hamas is an organized group with a literal council of leaders.

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ANTFA is organized and funded. It's well documented

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Who are the leaders of antifa and who is funding them?

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By design, antifa is a decentralized, left-wing movement of loosely knit "resistance" networks operating primarily in Democratic strongholds. But in recent years, antifa's forces have become highly organized and increasingly sophisticated, with organized crime cells cropping up across the country. Part 1 of this Washington Examiner series, Antifa, Inc., will dispel the modern mythos and misconceptions surrounding antifa as well as document its rise in America, recruitment practices, and well-coordinated crimes.

"Antifa is an idea, not an organization," Joe Biden, then the Democratic presidential nominee, declared on the 2020 debate stage.

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"Not a militia," Biden insisted, amid more than 100 consecutive nights of antifa-led attacks on federal property, police precincts, and downtown businesses in Portland, Oregon.

Antifa, short for antifascist, is indeed an extremist ideology, a blend of anarcho-communist beliefs opposed to adversaries and policies perceived as "fascist." However, its left-wing teachings have incited self-identified members to assemble, form factions, and commit crimes in the name of so-called "antifascist" activism.

As Democrats and liberal media outlets downplay the threat of antifa militancy by portraying antifa as a right-wing bogeyman, this nationwide movement is growing in numbers and evolving into high-level criminal operations.

The rise of American antifa
With origins in interwar Europe, the political phenomenon known as antifa was born out of a "red united front" against Nazi Germany's regime. In 1932, the German Communist Party established a new paramilitary unit, Antifaschistische Aktion, "Antifascist Action," to serve as foot soldiers in this fight.

Antifaschistische Aktion political sticker (Courtesy of the Richard F. Brush Art Gallery, accessed via JSTOR)
Antifaschistische Aktion political sticker (Courtesy of the Richard F. Brush Art Gallery, accessed via JSTOR).
Today, antifa activists tout a modernized black-and-red version of Antifascist Action's insignia while rioting in the streets and on online platforms to affirm their allegiance to the Marxist cause. In antifa's contemporary two-flag logo, red represents communism, and black stands for anarchy.

The advent of antifa in America, a mutation of its European predecessor, was brought about by British influence. Antifascism first found a foothold in Britain's 1970s punk subculture scene, where antiauthoritarian and anarchist views naturally aligned. Eventually, this cultural overlap migrated to the United States and burgeoned especially on the West Coast.

But the first-known antifa offshoot actually emerged out of the Midwest with the Minneapolis Baldies, a gang of skinheads who proclaimed to "hunt down" neo-Nazis. Circa the mid-1980s, the group set up Anti-Racist Action, a precursory confederation meant to spread "bare-fisted" antifascism nationally. At the time, organizers framed the fight as "anti-racist," believing that combating "racism" was more familiar to Americans than fighting "fascism."

Organization and onboarding
While skeptics claim that antifa has no organizational structure, the movement is subdivided into localized chapters, some of which are allied organizations, coalescing in most major U.S. cities.

In riot-torn Portland, Rose City Antifa, formerly the ARA Portland branch, remains America's oldest antifa chapter bearing "antifa" in its name and arguably the most influential.

Founded in 2007, RCA belongs to the national Torch Network, a spin-off of ARA, alongside 11 other chapters stationed all over America, including Antifa Sacramento, Rocky Mountain Antifa, Pacific Northwest Antifascist Workers Collective, and Atlanta Antifascists.

The Minneapolis Police Department deemed Torch Network the "most radical" of antifa cohorts, "responsible for accreditation and recognition of national antifa chapters."

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Lion," infiltrated the antifa chapter and was conditionally approved to join on a probationary basis. In 2017, cell leadership sent Lion a welcome email, blocking out a six-month onboarding process and curriculum.

Prospects are only allowed to enlist upon completion of this vetting program and the unanimous consent of current RCA members, as stipulated in the instructions. Full-fledged RCA members, as part of the Torch Network, must pledge to uphold the "Points of Unity," aka vows to disrupt "fascist" activity, not cooperate with the criminal justice system, oppose "oppression," and act in solidarity with others outside of the network who have similar aims, such as Black Lives Matter.

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To fund these activities, antifa activists generally rake in grassroots funding through payment processors such as Venmo and CashApp. Of the most profitable and more formalized fundraising campaigns, the Portland General Defense Committee's GoFundMe page had amassed more than $1.39 million at the peak of the 2020 George Floyd riots. The massive windfall went toward bailing out rioters, covering legal expenses, and paying for transitional housing, seemingly to streamline catch-and-release.

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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fixer said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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samurai_science said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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oh no said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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...Antifa isn't an organized group though.

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yeah, neither is Hamas


you leftists love your terror, don't you?

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Wtf are you talking about? Hamas is an organized group with a literal council of leaders.

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ANTFA is organized and funded. It's well documented

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Who are the leaders of antifa and who is funding them?

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It would be great if news organizations actually investigated and reported on this with the same ambition as right wing groups. Then we could actually have this conversation.

Past that little hurdle, I'm sure plenty of federal and state authorities know the leaders.

… and why would we expect antifa to be organized in a hierarchical fashion anyway? Isn't that like fascist or something?

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I'm sorry you don't understand that "antifa" is a broad ideology, not a group. And besides that, the United States has no legal mechanism for labeling domestic organizations as terrorist groups.

Experts also said it remains unclear how such a designation would work for a broad movement rather than a distinct group and expressed concern that it could be used to justify a crackdown on the political left more generally. Designating an ideology as a terrorist group is either useless or dangerous (as it's so vague that is anyone who accuses Trump of being a facist part of Antifa?).

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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samurai_science said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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oh no said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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...Antifa isn't an organized group though.

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yeah, neither is Hamas


you leftists love your terror, don't you?

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Wtf are you talking about? Hamas is an organized group with a literal council of leaders.

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ANTFA is organized and funded. It's well documented

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Who are the leaders of antifa and who is funding them?

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It would be great if news organizations actually investigated and reported on this with the same ambition as right wing groups. Then we could actually have this conversation.

Past that little hurdle, I'm sure plenty of federal and state authorities know the leaders.

… and why would we expect antifa to be organized in a hierarchical fashion anyway? Isn't that like fascist or something?

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I'm sorry you don't understand that "antifa" is a broad ideology, not a group.
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Hullabaloonatic said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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samurai_science said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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oh no said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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...Antifa isn't an organized group though.

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yeah, neither is Hamas


you leftists love your terror, don't you?

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Wtf are you talking about? Hamas is an organized group with a literal council of leaders.

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ANTFA is organized and funded. It's well documented

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Who are the leaders of antifa and who is funding them?

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A leader is not required to be an organization. Soros is one of those funding them.

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You have a source for that?

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Ag_of_08 said:

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There are now organized groups under the antifa heading, cooperating/conspiring with each other.

They, by all appearances, are operating in a very similar manner to the PIRA of decades past ... a common goal/ideology but with isolated cells( the PIRA called them bridgades).

Yes the ANTIFA thing started as an ideology, but it has now coalesced into groups acting very publicly and calling themselves "antifa".

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I understand people call themselves "Antifa" just like people call themselves "Christian Nationalists", but that is the ideology, not an organization.

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So you cant simply call yourself antifa and act in that name? You have to go get a membership card first or something?

If you call yourself that and act in that name, you are now considered a domestic terrorist. Its not hard

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You're being obtuse. If someone commits a crime while hoisting the 'antifa' flag, that's 1 thing...but what about someone who is merely engaging in an 'anti-facist' protest of the Trump administration? Are they domestic terrorists? If I were to walk the public streets of where I live with a sign that says "Trump is a facist, I'm anti facist" is that domestic terrorism?

That's why the single leadership structure matters, because grouping people without association other than a common ideology (hating fascism) is dangerous.

Here's a thought exercist: Let's assume for the sake of argument that there are two groups... both call themselves antifa, but one is planning violence and one is just peacefully protesting. Both are anti fascist, but only one is violent. Are both groups domestic terrorists? Or just 1?

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Here’s Antifa International detailing how to join an Antifa cell, or to start your own with other like-minded co-conspirators. They recommend joining the Torch Antifa Network in the U.S. (Rose City Antifa is part of this), or the adjacent Antifa network, the @iww.… pic.twitter.com/c1w1qN4WA3

— Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) September 18, 2025