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LMCane said:

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THIS IS MY REPUBLICAN PARTY! From the Executive Directors of the Young Republicans:

"We are appalled by the vile and inexcusable language revealed in the Politico article published today.

Such behavior is disgraceful, unbecoming of any Republican, and stands in direct opposition to the values our movement represents.

Those involved must immediately resign from all positions within their state and local Young Republican organizations.

We must hold ourselves to the highest standards of integrity, respect, and professionalism.

- Board of Directors

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Disgusting statement and it's nauseating that anybody on the right agrees with it.

Y'all are just leftists masquerading as right wingers.

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So in your mind it's impossible to be a constitutional conservative without being a racist?

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You're not a constitutional conservative, you support the civil rights act, which is mutually exclusive to the constitution. That is, they are completely incompatible.

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The civil rights act got some things right and some things wrong. There shouldn't be any discrimination allowed for the categories covered under the Act as it relates to federally funded activities and services. State funded activities and services should be left up to the state. But good luck as a state if you want to start doing things like restricting drivers licenses to white people or not allowing white kids at your public state university.

Private businesses should be able to discriminate all they want. The market and society will decide if a restaurant that doesn't allow a specific race to eat there, for example, will be successful.

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Part of that is because it is not realized what per-suppositions existed about different groups back then. Even aside from any bigotry, talking about capabilities. Or even supposed dispositions. The Founders were living in end of 18th Century cultural assumptions.But the making distinctions in quality of who was to be admitted is found as late and well said, as Teddy Roosevelt.

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Imagine what they'd think today....

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What's scary is some of the late 20th C assumptions seem to have frayed. Its no longer absolutely clear some of their views were so mistaken. Its a tricky question about the different groups as they seem to be not entirely fictional. So you might say we are closer to them now, then in 1995's world view. They would have been suspicious of the post Cold War multiculturalism and disparate values (see Teddy Roosevelt speech) of the end of the 20th C and this one.

Might want to check that constitution a little more closely

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LMCane said:

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THIS IS MY REPUBLICAN PARTY! From the Executive Directors of the Young Republicans:

"We are appalled by the vile and inexcusable language revealed in the Politico article published today.

Such behavior is disgraceful, unbecoming of any Republican, and stands in direct opposition to the values our movement represents.

Those involved must immediately resign from all positions within their state and local Young Republican organizations.

We must hold ourselves to the highest standards of integrity, respect, and professionalism.

- Board of Directors

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Disgusting statement and it's nauseating that anybody on the right agrees with it.

Y'all are just leftists masquerading as right wingers.

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So in your mind it's impossible to be a constitutional conservative without being a racist?

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Not sure what your question has to do with anything I said, but I'll answer it with this: Do you know even a single thing about the people who wrote the constitution?

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Yes. They were political geniuses but some of them held some pretty awful viewpoints like it's okay to own people. Now obviously judging the morality of people anachronistically shouldnt be done, history should view people within the lens of their own time But that doesn't mean we have to be racist *******s in 2025.

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Why would you think I think their morals were bad?

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But hey you do you, if raging against Jewish space lasers makes you happy then knock yourself out.

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Such low-IQ boomer conning...

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I know you don't think their morals were bad. I mean hell you'd probably to buy a black kid or two if you could.

WTF is boomer conning. Is this some phrase you made up and are trying to make a thing?

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shack009 said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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shack009 said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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LMCane said:

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THIS IS MY REPUBLICAN PARTY! From the Executive Directors of the Young Republicans:

"We are appalled by the vile and inexcusable language revealed in the Politico article published today.

Such behavior is disgraceful, unbecoming of any Republican, and stands in direct opposition to the values our movement represents.

Those involved must immediately resign from all positions within their state and local Young Republican organizations.

We must hold ourselves to the highest standards of integrity, respect, and professionalism.

- Board of Directors

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Disgusting statement and it's nauseating that anybody on the right agrees with it.

Y'all are just leftists masquerading as right wingers.

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So in your mind it's impossible to be a constitutional conservative without being a racist?

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Not sure what your question has to do with anything I said, but I'll answer it with this: Do you know even a single thing about the people who wrote the constitution?

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Yes. They were political geniuses but some of them held some pretty awful viewpoints like it's okay to own people. Now obviously judging the morality of people anachronistically shouldnt be done, history should view people within the lens of their own time But that doesn't mean we have to be racist *******s in 2025.

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Why would you think I think their morals were bad?

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But hey you do you, if raging against Jewish space lasers makes you happy then knock yourself out.

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Such low-IQ boomer conning...

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I know you don't think their morals were bad. I mean hell you'd probably to buy a black kid or two if you could.

WTF is boomer conning. Is this some phrase you made up and are trying to make a thing?

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Just assume it applies to everything you do/think. Boomer Con is a known phrase, I'm just a Mensa-level savant that added "-ing" to make it a verb.

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Part of that is because it is not realized what per-suppositions existed about different groups back then. Even aside from any bigotry, talking about capabilities. Or even supposed dispositions. The Founders were living in end of 18th Century cultural assumptions.But the making distinctions in quality of who was to be admitted is found as late and well said, as Teddy Roosevelt.

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Imagine what they'd think today....

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I honestly believe that they would immediately think "holy crap, slavery was a huge mistake, we need to scrap it ASAP and initiate a relocation program". They would also see the decay, depravity and destructions of the godless left and how much control they have and implement some type of safeguards in the founding documents.

To be fair, there is no way they could have predicted the evil and anti-American nature of the modern liberal.

Lysander Spooner was critiquing the scope of government the Constitution allowed in the 1800s.

I agree that they would have loved to have been way more specific, if they could see now what the Constitution has allowed.

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WTF is a "boomer con"?

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I found literally a single article on it from 2023. It reads like some Corey Mahler fan fiction without all the Hitler love.

Crowder's take

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Lysander Spooner was critiquing the scope of government the Constitution allowed in the 1800s.

I agree that they would have loved to have been way more specific, if they could see now what the Constitution has allowed.

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If only they'd been smart enough to give us a way to amend said constitution, oh well.

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Nothing anyone said about Trump before his first 2017 inauguration carries much weight. All were operating under false impressions largely driven by the celebrity persona to date. Its what people said since 2020 and seeing what he would be like that have relevance.

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I actually have higher standards for people who claim to be smart or want to run for public office. Vance was basically a leftist calling Trump Hitler and an authoritarian fascist.

He changed his entire public persona between 2016 and his senate campaign. You'll have to forgive those of us who are skeptical.

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So who do you support?

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Ironically it might work in as different a place as Japan. I guess sort of has.

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It probably would have yeah, unfortunately for Japan we made their constitution actively worse than ours such that feminism was written into theirs after WWII. We really screwed over Japan doing this.

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Stone Choir said:

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LMCane said:

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THIS IS MY REPUBLICAN PARTY! From the Executive Directors of the Young Republicans:

"We are appalled by the vile and inexcusable language revealed in the Politico article published today.

Such behavior is disgraceful, unbecoming of any Republican, and stands in direct opposition to the values our movement represents.

Those involved must immediately resign from all positions within their state and local Young Republican organizations.

We must hold ourselves to the highest standards of integrity, respect, and professionalism.

- Board of Directors

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Disgusting statement and it's nauseating that anybody on the right agrees with it.

Y'all are just leftists masquerading as right wingers.

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So in your mind it's impossible to be a constitutional conservative without being a racist?

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You're not a constitutional conservative, you support the civil rights act, which is mutually exclusive to the constitution. That is, they are completely incompatible.

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The civil rights act got some things right and some things wrong. There shouldn't be any discrimination allowed for the categories covered under the Act as it relates to federally funded activities and services. State funded activities and services should be left up to the state. But good luck as a state if you want to start doing things like restricting drivers licenses to white people or not allowing white kids at your public state university.

Private businesses should be able to discriminate all they want. The market and society will decide if a restaurant that doesn't allow a specific race to eat there, for example, will be successful.

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The civil rights act should not exist, end of story.

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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shack009 said:

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LMCane said:

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THIS IS MY REPUBLICAN PARTY! From the Executive Directors of the Young Republicans:

"We are appalled by the vile and inexcusable language revealed in the Politico article published today.

Such behavior is disgraceful, unbecoming of any Republican, and stands in direct opposition to the values our movement represents.

Those involved must immediately resign from all positions within their state and local Young Republican organizations.

We must hold ourselves to the highest standards of integrity, respect, and professionalism.

- Board of Directors

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Disgusting statement and it's nauseating that anybody on the right agrees with it.

Y'all are just leftists masquerading as right wingers.

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So in your mind it's impossible to be a constitutional conservative without being a racist?

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Not sure what your question has to do with anything I said, but I'll answer it with this: Do you know even a single thing about the people who wrote the constitution?

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Yes. They were political geniuses but some of them held some pretty awful viewpoints like it's okay to own people. Now obviously judging the morality of people anachronistically shouldnt be done, history should view people within the lens of their own time But that doesn't mean we have to be racist *******s in 2025.

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Why would you think I think their morals were bad?

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But hey you do you, if raging against Jewish space lasers makes you happy then knock yourself out.

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Such low-IQ boomer conning...

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I know you don't think their morals were bad. I mean hell you'd probably to buy a black kid or two if you could.

WTF is boomer conning. Is this some phrase you made up and are trying to make a thing?

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Slavery should have never happened. It is a blight upon this nation, we should have picked our own cotton.

Boomercon means out of touch boomer ideals of valuing capitalism over everything including the future of the nation and selling everything out for cheaper products for more consooming.

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Some young republicans say vile things in a group chat. Some young democrats shoot conservatives in the neck for engaging in dialogue.

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And then some young Republicans run over teenage girls with their car for daring to speak about y'alls lord and savior Charlie Kirk. Is that how this round robin game works?

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I must have missed the waves of support this supposed incident got from republicans as your side did with Kirk's assassination. And the assassination of the MLK of our generation hardly compares to some rando murder.

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Correct. Conservatives tend to condemn violence as opposed to the Democratic Party leadership that incites and condones violence.

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WTF is a "boomer con"?

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Boomer conservatives. They tend to support Israel, MAGA, and "legal" immigrants

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WTF is a "boomer con"?

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Boomer conservatives. They tend to support Israel, MAGA, and "legal" immigrants

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Also this yeah. They are MIGA not MAGA.

I'm calling on everyone involved in those Young Republicans chat messages to drop out of the race for Attorney General.

— Virginia Project (@ProjectVirginia) October 15, 2025

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WTF is a "boomer con"?

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Boomer conservatives. They tend to support Israel, MAGA, and "legal" immigrants

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“Your legal immigration, Mr. Reagan Republican” https://t.co/Xo8V4NzcRk

— Oilfield Rando (@Oilfield_Rando) October 14, 2025

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Nothing anyone said about Trump before his first 2017 inauguration carries much weight. All were operating under false impressions largely driven by the celebrity persona to date. Its what people said since 2020 and seeing what he would be like that have relevance.

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I actually have higher standards for people who claim to be smart or want to run for public office. Vance was basically a leftist calling Trump Hitler and an authoritarian fascist.

He changed his entire public persona between 2016 and his senate campaign. You'll have to forgive those of us who are skeptical.

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So who do you support?

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Probably nobody on the ticket in 2028.

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That faux clergyman

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Leftists must be really impressed by all the priests and nuns they see out celebrating Halloween.

Of course, that would require actually going out instead of prowling reddit, MSNBC and Colbert highlights for internet warrior talking points.

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Man it must be really nice that all violence against your side is perpetrated by the lunatic left wing terrorist mob and all violence perpetrated against anyone else just isn't real.

That's a nice little reality you've made for yourself.

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No one has said the violence perpetrated by right wing lunatics isn't real. The Republican leadership condemns this violence. It should be noted that the BLM and Antifa riots caused over $150 billion in damages and over 40 homicides.After Charlie Kirk's assassination by a left wing lunatic, obviously spurred on by Democratic Party leadership and MSM lies, what happened. Where were the riots? There were none, there were prayer vigils.
You cannot rewrite history, your contemptuous comments are hollow and ignorant.

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WTF is a "boomer con"?

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Boomer conservatives. They tend to support Israel, MAGA, and "legal" immigrants

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“Your legal immigration, Mr. Reagan Republican” https://t.co/Xo8V4NzcRk

— Oilfield Rando (@Oilfield_Rando) October 14, 2025

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So a legal immigrant is plugging to vote for a Marxist Islamist. This does illustrate the point that one of Teddy Roosevelt's good conditions was that you had to have the Western ethos. It did indeed (properly) discriminate based on what you were bringing.

See: Hart-Cellar Act

That was a very bad thing. Counter-productive.

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shack009 said:

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titan said:

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Nothing anyone said about Trump before his first 2017 inauguration carries much weight. All were operating under false impressions largely driven by the celebrity persona to date. Its what people said since 2020 and seeing what he would be like that have relevance.

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I actually have higher standards for people who claim to be smart or want to run for public office. Vance was basically a leftist calling Trump Hitler and an authoritarian fascist.

He changed his entire public persona between 2016 and his senate campaign. You'll have to forgive those of us who are skeptical.

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So who do you support?

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Probably nobody on the ticket in 2028.

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Anybody not on the ticket?

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richardag said:

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shack009 said:

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titan said:

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Nothing anyone said about Trump before his first 2017 inauguration carries much weight. All were operating under false impressions largely driven by the celebrity persona to date. Its what people said since 2020 and seeing what he would be like that have relevance.

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I actually have higher standards for people who claim to be smart or want to run for public office. Vance was basically a leftist calling Trump Hitler and an authoritarian fascist.

He changed his entire public persona between 2016 and his senate campaign. You'll have to forgive those of us who are skeptical.

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So who do you support?

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Probably nobody on the ticket in 2028.

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Anybody not on the ticket?

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Massie is about as good as they come, as far as known quantities.

shack009 said:

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richardag said:

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shack009 said:

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titan said:

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Nothing anyone said about Trump before his first 2017 inauguration carries much weight. All were operating under false impressions largely driven by the celebrity persona to date. Its what people said since 2020 and seeing what he would be like that have relevance.

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I actually have higher standards for people who claim to be smart or want to run for public office. Vance was basically a leftist calling Trump Hitler and an authoritarian fascist.

He changed his entire public persona between 2016 and his senate campaign. You'll have to forgive those of us who are skeptical.

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So who do you support?

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Probably nobody on the ticket in 2028.

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I'll support Vance if he's the only option. Possibly Desantis if he can curb his autism.

Because of the Indian Visa scams, I am leery about Vance due to his wife.

Stone Choir said:

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shack009 said:

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richardag said:

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shack009 said:

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titan said:

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Nothing anyone said about Trump before his first 2017 inauguration carries much weight. All were operating under false impressions largely driven by the celebrity persona to date. Its what people said since 2020 and seeing what he would be like that have relevance.

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I actually have higher standards for people who claim to be smart or want to run for public office. Vance was basically a leftist calling Trump Hitler and an authoritarian fascist.

He changed his entire public persona between 2016 and his senate campaign. You'll have to forgive those of us who are skeptical.

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So who do you support?

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Probably nobody on the ticket in 2028.

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I'll support Vance if he's the only option. Possibly Desantis if he can curb his autism.

Because of the Indian Visa scams, I am leery about Vance due to his wife.

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Having a Hollywood movie made about you and changing your positions from libertarian to borderline white nationalism makes me very skeptical. Also his connections to Thiel are not nothing.

Would love DeSantis if he would stop focusing on Israel so much. I think he's done a good job as governor and has the stones to be a law and order guy.

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Stone Choir said:

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shack009 said:

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richardag said:

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shack009 said:

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titan said:

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Nothing anyone said about Trump before his first 2017 inauguration carries much weight. All were operating under false impressions largely driven by the celebrity persona to date. Its what people said since 2020 and seeing what he would be like that have relevance.

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I actually have higher standards for people who claim to be smart or want to run for public office. Vance was basically a leftist calling Trump Hitler and an authoritarian fascist.

He changed his entire public persona between 2016 and his senate campaign. You'll have to forgive those of us who are skeptical.

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So who do you support?

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Probably nobody on the ticket in 2028.

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I'll support Vance if he's the only option. Possibly Desantis if he can curb his autism.

Because of the Indian Visa scams, I am leery about Vance due to his wife.

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Having a Hollywood movie made about you and changing your positions from libertarian to borderline white nationalism makes me very skeptical. Also his connections to Thiel are not nothing.

Would love DeSantis if he would stop focusing on Israel so much. I think he's done a good job as governor and has the stones to be a law and order guy.

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To be fair, that was the path I took, I was just a few years prior to him.

I think Vance is different now, he clearly has his nose in the dissident right because he understands all of our memes and uses them correctly on X.

I wouldn't mind the Israel stuff so much if we were allowed to promote the exact same policies here. Hell AIPAC would be find if they promoted the same policy they do for Israel for the US. You would think they would learn but I guess that's too difficult.

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richardag said:

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shack009 said:

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richardag said:

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shack009 said:

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titan said:

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Nothing anyone said about Trump before his first 2017 inauguration carries much weight. All were operating under false impressions largely driven by the celebrity persona to date. Its what people said since 2020 and seeing what he would be like that have relevance.

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I actually have higher standards for people who claim to be smart or want to run for public office. Vance was basically a leftist calling Trump Hitler and an authoritarian fascist.

He changed his entire public persona between 2016 and his senate campaign. You'll have to forgive those of us who are skeptical.

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So who do you support?

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Probably nobody on the ticket in 2028.

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Anybody not on the ticket?

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Massie is about as good as they come, as far as known quantities.

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Thanks for the reply.
Massie is for limited government which is great . Also a past(?) member of the Tea Party, good for him. Not sure about the influence of Koch had on the Tea Party.

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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LMCane said:

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THIS IS MY REPUBLICAN PARTY! From the Executive Directors of the Young Republicans:

"We are appalled by the vile and inexcusable language revealed in the Politico article published today.

Such behavior is disgraceful, unbecoming of any Republican, and stands in direct opposition to the values our movement represents.

Those involved must immediately resign from all positions within their state and local Young Republican organizations.

We must hold ourselves to the highest standards of integrity, respect, and professionalism.

- Board of Directors

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Disgusting statement and it's nauseating that anybody on the right agrees with it.

Y'all are just leftists masquerading as right wingers.

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So in your mind it's impossible to be a constitutional conservative without being a racist?

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Not sure what your question has to do with anything I said, but I'll answer it with this: Do you know even a single thing about the people who wrote the constitution?

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Yes. They were political geniuses but some of them held some pretty awful viewpoints like it's okay to own people. Now obviously judging the morality of people anachronistically shouldnt be done, history should view people within the lens of their own time But that doesn't mean we have to be racist *******s in 2025.

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Why would you think I think their morals were bad?

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But hey you do you, if raging against Jewish space lasers makes you happy then knock yourself out.

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Such low-IQ boomer conning...

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I know you don't think their morals were bad. I mean hell you'd probably to buy a black kid or two if you could.

WTF is boomer conning. Is this some phrase you made up and are trying to make a thing?

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Slavery should have never happened. It is a blight upon this nation, we should have picked our own cotton.

Boomercon means out of touch boomer ideals of valuing capitalism over everything including the future of the nation and selling everything out for cheaper products for more consooming.

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Crap even though I am Gex X I might be a boomercon because I value capitalism over all other financial systems. It would be at the core of my ideal America.

You were Libertarian? Not just center right? That's IS quite a change, easily as much as Vance's.

Still don't think anything in the pre "globalists totally exposed by the Biden era" 2015-2016 era matters much. Still remember some of the Breitbart and so-called alt-right claims --- ended up being true in large parts.

And if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bicycle.

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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LMCane said:

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THIS IS MY REPUBLICAN PARTY! From the Executive Directors of the Young Republicans:

"We are appalled by the vile and inexcusable language revealed in the Politico article published today.

Such behavior is disgraceful, unbecoming of any Republican, and stands in direct opposition to the values our movement represents.

Those involved must immediately resign from all positions within their state and local Young Republican organizations.

We must hold ourselves to the highest standards of integrity, respect, and professionalism.

- Board of Directors

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Disgusting statement and it's nauseating that anybody on the right agrees with it.

Y'all are just leftists masquerading as right wingers.

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So in your mind it's impossible to be a constitutional conservative without being a racist?

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Not sure what your question has to do with anything I said, but I'll answer it with this: Do you know even a single thing about the people who wrote the constitution?

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Yes. They were political geniuses but some of them held some pretty awful viewpoints like it's okay to own people. Now obviously judging the morality of people anachronistically shouldnt be done, history should view people within the lens of their own time But that doesn't mean we have to be racist *******s in 2025.

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Why would you think I think their morals were bad?

Quote:

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But hey you do you, if raging against Jewish space lasers makes you happy then knock yourself out.

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Such low-IQ boomer conning...

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I know you don't think their morals were bad. I mean hell you'd probably to buy a black kid or two if you could.

WTF is boomer conning. Is this some phrase you made up and are trying to make a thing?

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Slavery should have never happened. It is a blight upon this nation, we should have picked our own cotton.

Boomercon means out of touch boomer ideals of valuing capitalism over everything including the future of the nation and selling everything out for cheaper products for more consooming.

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Crap even though I am Gex X I might be a boomercon because I value capitalism over all other financial systems. It would be at the core of my ideal America.

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Not valuing capitalism over other financial systems… Having capitalism as the highest value of all.

Like opening the country to hordes of illegals and H1Bs in the name of cheap labor or goods, while making our country worse to live in and harder on natives.

What you mean is kind of the idea of the `full free trade no matter what' angle, where it is considered legit that US workers have to complete with basic slave labor overseas. That's not a level field.