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Two more weeks then tariffs will break the economies back.

Meanwhile, all numbers point to hugely positive growth in 1Q2026.

Plus, all tariff talk disregards trade deals, waivers, and the long term economic impact of repatriating manufacturing.

But just wait boys, in two more weeks tariffs will kill the economy and show Orange Man to be an economic idiot.

Keep trying.

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Keep looking through those blinders and cheerleading for him... you're doing a great job.

I voted for him and want to see the R's win the midterms for sure, but Trump isn't helping himself with a number of unforced errors. At this pace, he'll give the House to the Dems and maybe the Senate. Oh boy, those last two years will be a lot of fun!

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Beside the undisciplined communication style of Trump, which everyone is familiar with at this point, what are the "unforced errors" you are talking about, specifically?

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Is 6% interest on a 30 year fixed mortgage "high"?

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Feels high today compared to the last 15 years, but it's not high by historical terms.

Unforced errors as in you continue to chicken little about tariffs? And I am the one with blinders?

2026 will be a banner year for the US of A and your pocket books. Take a moment to thank Trump rather than nitpicking about what YOU think are "unforced errors".

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Are you familiar with the term "moving goalposts"?

You said he has no results…you were presented with results and agreed that those were indeed results, and then you proclaim the results "aren't good enough"…

It's been 11 ****ing months…

I'll hang up and listen…

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Where did i say he has no results?

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First Trump craps on a murdered Reiner, then he gives an address complaining about what a dump he inherited. Hard to argue that is strong leadership.

Tarriff impact starting to creep in, CPI tmrw, and a pretty big unemployment report early Jan. Trumps back half of term isnt looking to bright.

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Back half of term? I'm patiently waiting on Trump 3.0 in 2028.

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He will likely look like this.



Only, he won't do a lot of **** talking on twitter. He will be extremely polite to your face, and make you look like an idiot while grin-******* you.

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Is 6% interest on a 30 year fixed mortgage "high"?

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Feels high today compared to the last 15 years, but it's not high by historical terms.

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Do you think that it is safe to say that since the 2008 financial crises, interest rates have been held artificially low by the Fed in an unsustainable way, and that this has contributed to the current inflation?

Or, did all of the actions by the Fed with things like quantitative easing have little effect?

Or, maybe all of those actions by the Fed did have a significant effect, but that course of action is sustainable over the long term?

Or, are mortgage rates currently at a healthy, sustainable rate, and not a sign of major inflation due to tariffs?

Just trying to figure out your position here.

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This is hilarious. Do you always resort to insulting people who question Dear Leader?

I voted for the dude, three times. Yet even a blind man can see that he is pushing for ridiculously low rates in an environment that doesn't justify it. If he persists, that will fan the flames of inflation. Long term rates will NOT come down in that environment. Show me a time in history when inflation was high and long term rates were low. Doesn't exist.

There's a delicate balance that needs to be achieved between stimulating near term economic activity and keeping inflation at target ranges. The Fed's inflation target has been 2% for decades. Now that it's running at 3% the Trump bootlickers want to redefine that as the new normal and "all is good."

It's ok to question some of Dear Leader's policies even if you agree with most of them.

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Words such as the bold are like giant blue letters "T", "D", and "S" hung around the neck.

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You would know. The last several months have made clear there's a bifurcation of TDS in two camps:

1. Trump haters -- who would blame him for curing cancer.
2. Trump bootlickers -- who would defend him if he was the cause of cancer.

Probably 25% of the population in each of those camps. I'll stay out of both and support him when appropriate, and also give him hell when he deserves it.

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You want to blame him for low rates, inflation that is not happening, tariff impacts that are not happening and make 3% vs 2% inflation seem like the end of the world when we just came off of historically high inflation.

You literally are blaming him for curing cancer. I am simply pointing out that Trump has been right on tariffs. Data continues to prove that out. You want folks to ignore that in order to not give Trump credit.

There are no two lanes of TDS. Just the one.

Bootlickers, blinders, dear leader, cult, etc are all words used to attack supporters of Trump when the data doesn't back you up.

Again, why not just say thank you to Trump rather than trying to find ever inventive ways to say "no really guys, Trump is crashing the economy and Dems are going to waltz to a huge blue wave in 2026".

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Are those enough to convince people their lives are better to the point they'd vote for more of it in eleven months? Probably not.

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Then WTF would it take for you?

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More things that affect the majority of people's everyday lives.

I'm fine waiting for things to pan out, but I'm not the masses who actually thought, and needed, the price of things they buy at the grocery and big box stores to come down. I'm not the one who needs gas prices to go back down to first administration level gas prices, etc.

Time will tell. I'm just saying that this isn't really much to crow about, especially if I'm thinking in terms of future election prospects

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Cheaper gas, lower taxes, and a closed border drastically reducing crime don't affect the majority of people's everyday lives?

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Unforced errors as in you continue to chicken little about tariffs? And I am the one with blinders?

2026 will be a banner year for the US of A and your pocket books. Take a moment to thank Trump rather than nitpicking about what YOU think are "unforced errors".

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You can ignore this if you want, but most people aren't. They're feeling it in their pocket book. If the positive impact of Trump's tariffs actually occurs soon enough to offset the pain, then you could be right. But as of now, folks are feeling the pain and not so much of the gain.

But we'll see... the 2026 midterms will tell the story.

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President Donald Trump's sweeping import duties have raised prices for many goods, though the tariff pass-through has been gradual as businesses worked through inventory accumulated prior to the trade policy tightening and also absorbed some of the taxes. Samuel Tombs, chief U.S. economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics, calculated that retailers passed on about 40% of tariffs by September, adding "we expect that proportion to climb gradually to 70% by March and then stabilize."

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https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3586617/replies/71557135

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Some things take time.

But some things don't. For example:

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True, but that, thankfully, took not much more than an EO. It's the hard stuff that takes more than that and that's what will, hopefully, lead to better things, if done correctly of course.

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So, this is an example of Trump following through on one of the easy things that the other party could have and should have done, but didn't, and would not have if Kamala was elected?

Do you think it took any amount of bravery for Trump and Holman to completely shut down the border, knowing full well that the Media was going to skewer him as a racist for doing that? Do you think that most politicians would look at that potential negative publicity, and balked at the idea of completely closing the border so abruptly? Do you agree that Trump has received a lot of negative press for his border policy actions? Do you think that Trump's border policy actions have been received favorably or unfavorably by the voting public?

That's good news.

You agree that the hard stuff takes a little more time, and can't be solved with an EO?

What things are out there that Trump could have solved with an EO that he didn't?

What is the economic impact of tariffs on groceries, gas and electricity?

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Taxes down
Trump child investment accounts (private industry investing in them as well as the gov't seed money)
Real Wages up
Grocery Prices going lower ... you can actually afford eggs again
Gas at lowest level since he was President 45
Housing prices lower
Mortgage Rates down
Trillions being invested
Border secure no new entries
$1776 Year end Bonus for military
0, nada, none, ought, illegal entries
Immigration halted from 39 ****hole countries
2.5m illegals out of the country....$1.9m self deported...600k forcibly deported and counting
Cocaine prices skyrocketing due to drug boat strikes!!
Tariffs generating hundreds of billions $$

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I'm still not tired of WINNING!

Trump is the sharpest president we've had in a long while! Obama was just like "um ah uh" whenever he was off a teleprompter. Trump can wing any speech and get his message across.

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They pulled in data from November when retailers were starting to offer holiday discounts.

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It was the November report...

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Are those enough to convince people their lives are better to the point they'd vote for more of it in eleven months? Probably not.

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Then WTF would it take for you?

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More things that affect the majority of people's everyday lives.

I'm fine waiting for things to pan out, but I'm not the masses who actually thought, and needed, the price of things they buy at the grocery and big box stores to come down. I'm not the one who needs gas prices to go back down to first administration level gas prices, etc.

Time will tell. I'm just saying that this isn't really much to crow about, especially if I'm thinking in terms of future election prospects

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Cheaper gas, lower taxes, and a closed border drastically reducing crime don't affect the majority of people's everyday lives?

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They do.

Will that alone be enough to give the GOP wins in the next two elections? Not likely.

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Are you familiar with the term "moving goalposts"?

You said he has no results…you were presented with results and agreed that those were indeed results, and then you proclaim the results "aren't good enough"…

It's been 11 ****ing months…

I'll hang up and listen…

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Where did i say he has no results?

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I'm just thinking he better have results and soon

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You implied that he didn't have any results so he'd better hurry and create some soon…

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Unforced errors as in you continue to chicken little about tariffs? And I am the one with blinders?

2026 will be a banner year for the US of A and your pocket books. Take a moment to thank Trump rather than nitpicking about what YOU think are "unforced errors".

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You can ignore this if you want, but most people aren't. They're feeling it in their pocket book. If the positive impact of Trump's tariffs actually occurs soon enough to offset the pain, then you could be right. But as of now, folks are feeling the pain and not so much of the gain.

But we'll see... the 2026 midterms will tell the story.

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President Donald Trump's sweeping import duties have raised prices for many goods, though the tariff pass-through has been gradual as businesses worked through inventory accumulated prior to the trade policy tightening and also absorbed some of the taxes. Samuel Tombs, chief U.S. economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics, calculated that retailers passed on about 40% of tariffs by September, adding "we expect that proportion to climb gradually to 70% by March and then stabilize."

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https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3586617/replies/71557135

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1) How much of the current inflation is caused by the tariffs? 100%? 5%? Do you have any idea? What would you base that analysis on? CNN?

2) If we have experienced more than half of all the impacts of tariffs, and CPI seems to be pretty stable right now, what do you think inflation is going to be in March?

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Again, why not just say thank you to Trump rather than trying to find ever inventive ways to say "no really guys, Trump is crashing the economy and Dems are going to waltz to a huge blue wave in 2026".

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It's not a case of Trump is 100% bad or 100% good. You seem to really struggle with that... anybody who criticizes him or his policies is "bad" or has "TDS." L oh freaking L... that's TDS on the right.

I see his policies as roughly 70% good and 30% bad. That's better than 2 to 1, not bad. There's never been a politician that I agree with 100% of the time.

The Dem option was atrocious. It always is.

We have to get past the notion that Trump is 100% bad or 100% good and call things as we see them. That's the real world.

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No Spin Ag said:

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Some things take time.

But some things don't. For example:

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True, but that, thankfully, took not much more than an EO. It's the hard stuff that takes more than that and that's what will, hopefully, lead to better things, if done correctly of course.

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So, this is an example of Trump following through on one of the easy things that the other party could have and should have done, but didn't, and would not have if Kamala was elected?

Do you think it took any amount of bravery for Trump and Holman to completely shut down the border, knowing full well that the Media was going to skewer him as a racist for doing that? Do you think that most politicians would look at that potential negative publicity, and balked at the idea of completely closing the border so abruptly? Do you agree that Trump has received a lot of negative press for his border policy actions? Do you think that Trump's border policy actions have been received favorably or unfavorably by the voting public?

That's good news.

You agree that the hard stuff takes a little more time, and can't be solved with an EO?

What things are out there that Trump could have solved with an EO that he didn't?

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Trump has received a lot of negatives for the border and immigration, and I'm glad he's done it.

It will take more time and much more than tweets and EOs to get real and lasting things that'll help most Americans in ways they want.

He's done all he can with EOs, otherwise I'd imagine he'd have done it with them by now.

Again, he's having a decent first quarter. I'm just not seeing where there's anything to show, yet, to get excited about.

Then again, I'm more of wait until the game is actually won before celebrating kind of person.

So you never cheer when the Ags score a TD? You wait until the clock hits 00:00 before celebrating small victories on the way toward winning a game?

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No Spin Ag said:

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FireAg said:

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Are you familiar with the term "moving goalposts"?

You said he has no results…you were presented with results and agreed that those were indeed results, and then you proclaim the results "aren't good enough"…

It's been 11 ****ing months…

I'll hang up and listen…

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Where did i say he has no results?

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When you said this:

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I'm just thinking he better have results and soon

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You implied that he didn't have any results so he'd better hurry and create some soon…

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Yeah, that was definitely a typo on my part, because I meant to say he better have better or more results...

My bad.

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So you never cheer when the Ags score a TD? You wait until the clock hits 00:00 before celebrating small victories on the way toward winning a game?

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I cheer, yes. Say that they're the best team ever and are going to win the game and every game after?

Yeah, I've lived through too many games to see that turn out completely opposite.

I know, BAS isn't just for football, unfortunately.

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Again, why not just say thank you to Trump rather than trying to find ever inventive ways to say "no really guys, Trump is crashing the economy and Dems are going to waltz to a huge blue wave in 2026".

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It's not a case of Trump is 100% bad or 100% good. You seem to really struggle with that... anybody who criticizes him or his policies is "bad" or has "TDS." L oh freaking L... that's TDS on the right.

I see his policies as roughly 70% good and 30% bad. That's better than 2 to 1, not bad. There's never been a politician that I agree with 100% of the time.

The Dem option was atrocious. It always is.

We have to get past the notion that Trump is 100% bad or 100% good and call things as we see them. That's the real world.

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But you don't do that, it's apparent with your take on tariffs and the economy and inability to back up your poor takes.

No people do not have to agree with Trump 100% of the time. But the bed wetting on tweets, tariffs, WH plaques and similar is the opposite of "call things as we see them".

As with the Reiner commentary, I could even get on board with saying it wasn't necessary for him to opine. But there is no reason because he did say it, it was what he thought of Reiner, Reiner earned that ire with a decade of harassment of Trump. Yet folks feel the need to go through the "I voted for Trump since he was in diapers, but that tweet / tariff / troll was a bridge too far for me".

TDS is defined as taking any potential negative about Trump and running balls out with it until time & Trump prove you wrong.

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BusterAg said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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BusterAg said:

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Some things take time.

But some things don't. For example:

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True, but that, thankfully, took not much more than an EO. It's the hard stuff that takes more than that and that's what will, hopefully, lead to better things, if done correctly of course.

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So, this is an example of Trump following through on one of the easy things that the other party could have and should have done, but didn't, and would not have if Kamala was elected?

Do you think it took any amount of bravery for Trump and Holman to completely shut down the border, knowing full well that the Media was going to skewer him as a racist for doing that? Do you think that most politicians would look at that potential negative publicity, and balked at the idea of completely closing the border so abruptly? Do you agree that Trump has received a lot of negative press for his border policy actions? Do you think that Trump's border policy actions have been received favorably or unfavorably by the voting public?

That's good news.

You agree that the hard stuff takes a little more time, and can't be solved with an EO?

What things are out there that Trump could have solved with an EO that he didn't?

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Trump has received a lot of negatives for the border and immigration, and I'm glad he's done it.

It will take more time and much more than tweets and EOs to get real and lasting things that'll help most Americans in ways they want.

He's done all he can with EOs, otherwise I'd imagine he'd have done it with them by now.

Again, he's having a decent first quarter. I'm just not seeing where there's anything to show, yet, to get excited about.

Then again, I'm more of wait until the game is actually won before celebrating kind of person.

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He is not done with EOs despite already issuing more in the past 11 months than he did in his ENTIRE first term.

The OBBB is absolutely something to get excited about. What would actually excite you?

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Again, why not just say thank you to Trump rather than trying to find ever inventive ways to say "no really guys, Trump is crashing the economy and Dems are going to waltz to a huge blue wave in 2026".

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It's not a case of Trump is 100% bad or 100% good. You seem to really struggle with that... anybody who criticizes him or his policies is "bad" or has "TDS." L oh freaking L... that's TDS on the right.

I see his policies as roughly 70% good and 30% bad. That's better than 2 to 1, not bad. There's never been a politician that I agree with 100% of the time.

The Dem option was atrocious. It always is.

We have to get past the notion that Trump is 100% bad or 100% good and call things as we see them. That's the real world.

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But you don't do that, it's apparent with your take on tariffs and the economy and inability to back up your poor takes.

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I've provided links and quotes from a variety of sources in the ongoing conversations on tariffs and interest rates. You simply choose to ignore them and look through your iron-clad Trump filter. There's no acknowledgment of any hint of truth from those sources, or any consideration of nuance. It's 100% rejection and Trump is 100% right. I can't help you with that.

Maybe we should shift the conversation to something that is 100% measurable and inarguable. For starters, how about the upcoming 2026 midterms. If Trump is 100% right and everything is hunky dory, then the R's should sweep Congress again, right? If the majority of voters are happy with Trump, then they'll reelect his party to power. We can measure that in clear terms with election results.

What do you think is the likelihood that voters will endorse Trump's policies with a R sweep in Congress next fall?

I'll go first. I put those odds at 25%.

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No Spin Ag said:

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BusterAg said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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BusterAg said:

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Some things take time.

But some things don't. For example:

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True, but that, thankfully, took not much more than an EO. It's the hard stuff that takes more than that and that's what will, hopefully, lead to better things, if done correctly of course.

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So, this is an example of Trump following through on one of the easy things that the other party could have and should have done, but didn't, and would not have if Kamala was elected?

Do you think it took any amount of bravery for Trump and Holman to completely shut down the border, knowing full well that the Media was going to skewer him as a racist for doing that? Do you think that most politicians would look at that potential negative publicity, and balked at the idea of completely closing the border so abruptly? Do you agree that Trump has received a lot of negative press for his border policy actions? Do you think that Trump's border policy actions have been received favorably or unfavorably by the voting public?

That's good news.

You agree that the hard stuff takes a little more time, and can't be solved with an EO?

What things are out there that Trump could have solved with an EO that he didn't?

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Trump has received a lot of negatives for the border and immigration, and I'm glad he's done it.

It will take more time and much more than tweets and EOs to get real and lasting things that'll help most Americans in ways they want.

He's done all he can with EOs, otherwise I'd imagine he'd have done it with them by now.

Again, he's having a decent first quarter. I'm just not seeing where there's anything to show, yet, to get excited about.

Then again, I'm more of wait until the game is actually won before celebrating kind of person.

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He is not done with EOs despite already issuing more in the past 11 months than he did in his ENTIRE first term.

The OBBB is absolutely something to get excited about. What would actually excite you?

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Lower grocery and goods (Walmart and Target type stuff) and housing prices.

Don't get me wrong, he's done things that are good, they just don't have an immediate impact on people's wallets. Once they do, then "Mission Accomplished' away.

The immigration stuff, I love. Going after drugs dealers. More please. But those things while things i personally live seeing do nothing for me in my every day life.

I'm tired of politicians telling me, like Biden did last time, that things were great yet when I looked my finances they didn't look like how he said they would.

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Is 6% interest on a 30 year fixed mortgage "high"?

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Feels high today compared to the last 15 years, but it's not high by historical terms.

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Also feels pretty damn high when a very basic home nowadays in the outer burbs in TX is $400-450k (if you want your kids to go to half decent schools).

My dad was paying like 12-13% in the early 80's, but pretty sure that was on a $65k house. 6% on a cookie cutter home that costs half a million dollars sucks.

This will somehow offend some boomers on here

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FireAg said:

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So you never cheer when the Ags score a TD? You wait until the clock hits 00:00 before celebrating small victories on the way toward winning a game?

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I cheer, yes. Say that they're the best team ever and are going to win the game and every game after?

Yeah, I've lived through too many games to see that turn out completely opposite.

I know, BAS isn't just for football, unfortunately.

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Funny...an honest man...It's OK to enjoy the ride Eeyore.

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Is 6% interest on a 30 year fixed mortgage "high"?

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Feels high today compared to the last 15 years, but it's not high by historical terms.

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Also feels pretty damn high when a very basic home nowadays in the outer burbs is $400-450k (if you want your kids to go to half decent schools).

My dad was paying like 12-13% in the early 80's, but pretty sure that was on a $65k house. 6% on a cookie cutter home that costs half a million dollars sucks.

This will somehow offend some boomers on here

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Totally understand why that feels high. The artificially low rates allowed bigger, fancier homes to be built because people could have "more" and still pay the note. Now that interest rates have normalized at levels higher than those one-time lows, many people can't afford that new note. The people who bought those homes with low mortgages are extremely reluctant to reset the price to a lower level. The result is what we have today... a subdued housing market with gradual price easing as the reality of new market dynamics is accepted by those who have to sell but rejected by those who don't have to sell.

If rates stay at current levels, prices per square foot should continue to normalize lower to the long term trendline. But that's a multi-year journey that takes time to unfold.

where do you get this conclusion from that the "midterms" will tell the story about the economy?!

in 2022 the Leftists demolished the GOP in Trump's first midterms.

within a year from that election- the economy was literally one of the strongest in USA history before COVID hit!

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Is 6% interest on a 30 year fixed mortgage "high"?

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Feels high today compared to the last 15 years, but it's not high by historical terms.

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Also feels pretty damn high when a very basic home nowadays in the outer burbs is $400-450k (if you want your kids to go to half decent schools).

My dad was paying like 12-13% in the early 80's, but pretty sure that was on a $65k house. 6% on a cookie cutter home that costs half a million dollars sucks.

This will somehow offend some boomers on here

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Totally understand why that feels high. The artificially low rates allowed bigger, fancier homes to be built because people could have "more" and still pay the note. Now that interest rates have normalized at levels higher than those one-time lows, many people can't afford that new note. The people who bought those homes with low mortgages are extremely reluctant to reset the price to a lower level. The result is what we have today... a subdued housing market with gradual price easing as the reality of new market dynamics is accepted by those who have to sell but rejected by those who don't have to sell.

If rates stay at current levels, prices per square foot should continue to normalize lower to the long term trendline. But that's a multi-year journey that takes time to unfold.

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I am very thankful I am not a young couple looking to start a family right now. The dream of getting married in your 20's and buying a modest home in a decent neighborhood zoned to good schools is way out of reach for a historically high % of young people. The only Gen Z youngins I know who are able to do it are getting help from mommy and daddy...aside from a few who have great jobs and make an extraordinary amt of money compared to their peers.

My wife's a realtor...we have been feeling the squeeze for sure. I feel like if interest rates can just get into the 5's, we might see an uptick in activity. Who knows though, a lot less discretionary income for average households now after several years of significant iniflation.

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where do you get this conclusion from that the "midterms" will tell the story about the economy?!

in 2022 the Leftists demolished the GOP in Trump's first midterms.

within a year from that election- the economy was literally one of the strongest in USA history before COVID hit!

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Que?

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David_Puddy said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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agent-maroon said:

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Are those enough to convince people their lives are better to the point they'd vote for more of it in eleven months? Probably not.

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Then WTF would it take for you?

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More things that affect the majority of people's everyday lives.

I'm fine waiting for things to pan out, but I'm not the masses who actually thought, and needed, the price of things they buy at the grocery and big box stores to come down. I'm not the one who needs gas prices to go back down to first administration level gas prices, etc.

Time will tell. I'm just saying that this isn't really much to crow about, especially if I'm thinking in terms of future election prospects

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Cheaper gas, lower taxes, and a closed border drastically reducing crime don't affect the majority of people's everyday lives?

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They do.

Will that alone be enough to give the GOP wins in the next two elections? Not likely.

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And what exactly are you basing this off of?

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where do you get this conclusion from that the "midterms" will tell the story about the economy?!

in 2022 the Leftists demolished the GOP in Trump's first midterms.

within a year from that election- the economy was literally one of the strongest in USA history before COVID hit!

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I think you mean 2018, right? If so, the Dems took the House but the R's strengthened their hold in the Senate.

My point is the midterms will reflect how the majority of voters feel about the direction of the country (in total -- not just the economy). And that's highly correlated to how they feel about the president's performance.

You can't believe that R's swept Congress in 2024 because they favored his policies over Kamala's, and then reject the notion if he loses control of Congress that it's not because a majority of voters disapprove of his policies.

The 2026 midterms remain to be seen. R's could retain both chambers, or lose both or just one.

All of this posturing about "Trump is bad" or "Trump is good" is just that... posturing. Let's see how the score really comes out as measured by the upcoming midterms.

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Are those enough to convince people their lives are better to the point they'd vote for more of it in eleven months? Probably not.

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Then WTF would it take for you?

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More things that affect the majority of people's everyday lives.

I'm fine waiting for things to pan out, but I'm not the masses who actually thought, and needed, the price of things they buy at the grocery and big box stores to come down. I'm not the one who needs gas prices to go back down to first administration level gas prices, etc.

Time will tell. I'm just saying that this isn't really much to crow about, especially if I'm thinking in terms of future election prospects

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Cheaper gas, lower taxes, and a closed border drastically reducing crime don't affect the majority of people's everyday lives?

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They do.

Will that alone be enough to give the GOP wins in the next two elections? Not likely.

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And what exactly are you basing this off of?

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Just a hunch based on the current "it'sthe economy stupid" and added to by the pendulum typically swinging to the other side.

I could very well be wrong, which would be great because that would mean the economy for the masses would be better than they are now. I'd take that every day of the week and twice in Sunday.