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No Spin Ag said:

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David_Puddy said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Are those enough to convince people their lives are better to the point they'd vote for more of it in eleven months? Probably not.

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Then WTF would it take for you?

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More things that affect the majority of people's everyday lives.

I'm fine waiting for things to pan out, but I'm not the masses who actually thought, and needed, the price of things they buy at the grocery and big box stores to come down. I'm not the one who needs gas prices to go back down to first administration level gas prices, etc.

Time will tell. I'm just saying that this isn't really much to crow about, especially if I'm thinking in terms of future election prospects

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Cheaper gas, lower taxes, and a closed border drastically reducing crime don't affect the majority of people's everyday lives?

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They do.

Will that alone be enough to give the GOP wins in the next two elections? Not likely.

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And what exactly are you basing this off of?

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If he ends up being right, it will only be because we have reached a critical mass of stupid uninformed people in this country.

Bull*****

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No Spin Ag said:

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FireAg said:

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So you never cheer when the Ags score a TD? You wait until the clock hits 00:00 before celebrating small victories on the way toward winning a game?

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I cheer, yes. Say that they're the best team ever and are going to win the game and every game after?

Yeah, I've lived through too many games to see that turn out completely opposite.

I know, BAS isn't just for football, unfortunately.

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Funny...an honest man...It's OK to enjoy the ride Eeyore.

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I'm trying, believe me. Be it with politics or our team.

I'll be watching our girls play tonight and I'm excited AF. If they can pull it off, and I really do believe they can, my BAS might be thrown to the back burner, at least until Saturday.

HTownAg98 said:

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Would you like to kick inflation into high gear? If so, this is a blueprint on how you do it.

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There betting on more homes than buyers as they deport illegals. Picture a buyers market with low rates!!!

good Trump!

In the end, people believe there checking account and receipts more so than a politician talking about your lying eyes, Republicans only have a few more months until campaigning on what you have done, it should get very interesting.

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HTownAg98 said:

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Would you like to kick inflation into high gear? If so, this is a blueprint on how you do it.

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There betting on more homes than buyers as they deport illegals. Picture a buyers market with low rates!!!

good Trump!

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but no one to build the new houses.

Burpelson said:

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In the end, people believe there checking account and receipts more so than a politician talking about your lying eyes, Republicans only have a few more months until campaigning on what you have done, it should get very interesting.

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Like when you get a fat refund check thanks to the OBBB? And instead of a summer of BLM protests hating on America it will be a 250th celebration of parades, fireworks, UFC matches, Patriot Games, concerts, gold plating the Trump-Washington Monument.

Its going to be a sad sad year as the demise of the Dem party is solidified. It will be interesting for sure.

flown-the-coop said:

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Burpelson said:

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In the end, people believe there checking account and receipts more so than a politician talking about your lying eyes, Republicans only have a few more months until campaigning on what you have done, it should get very interesting.

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Like when you get a fat refund check thanks to the OBBB? And instead of a summer of BLM protests hating on America it will be a 250th celebration of parades, fireworks, UFC matches, Patriot Games, concerts, gold plating the Trump-Washington Monument.

Its going to be a sad sad year as the demise of the Dem party is solidified. It will be interesting for sure.

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Agree on interesting. Could see it go either way.

The 2026 midterm elections will be a key barometer on how the people see it.

No Spin Ag said:

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BusterAg said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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BusterAg said:

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Some things take time.

But some things don't. For example:

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True, but that, thankfully, took not much more than an EO. It's the hard stuff that takes more than that and that's what will, hopefully, lead to better things, if done correctly of course.

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So, this is an example of Trump following through on one of the easy things that the other party could have and should have done, but didn't, and would not have if Kamala was elected?

Do you think it took any amount of bravery for Trump and Holman to completely shut down the border, knowing full well that the Media was going to skewer him as a racist for doing that? Do you think that most politicians would look at that potential negative publicity, and balked at the idea of completely closing the border so abruptly? Do you agree that Trump has received a lot of negative press for his border policy actions? Do you think that Trump's border policy actions have been received favorably or unfavorably by the voting public?

That's good news.

You agree that the hard stuff takes a little more time, and can't be solved with an EO?

What things are out there that Trump could have solved with an EO that he didn't?

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Trump has received a lot of negatives for the border and immigration, and I'm glad he's done it.

It will take more time and much more than tweets and EOs to get real and lasting things that'll help most Americans in ways they want.

He's done all he can with EOs, otherwise I'd imagine he'd have done it with them by now.

Again, he's having a decent first quarter. I'm just not seeing where there's anything to show, yet, to get excited about.

Then again, I'm more of wait until the game is actually won before celebrating kind of person.

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No one is celebrating.

But, it's silly that you are saying that you can't get excited about things that he hasn't done yet because he hasn't had enough time to do them yet.

Talking in circles.

Has Trump done a good job in 11 months, or not? If no, what should already be done that isn't done? If so, then why are you so sure the GOP loses the mid-terms?

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flown-the-coop said:

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Again, why not just say thank you to Trump rather than trying to find ever inventive ways to say "no really guys, Trump is crashing the economy and Dems are going to waltz to a huge blue wave in 2026".

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It's not a case of Trump is 100% bad or 100% good. You seem to really struggle with that... anybody who criticizes him or his policies is "bad" or has "TDS." L oh freaking L... that's TDS on the right.

I see his policies as roughly 70% good and 30% bad. That's better than 2 to 1, not bad. There's never been a politician that I agree with 100% of the time.

The Dem option was atrocious. It always is.

We have to get past the notion that Trump is 100% bad or 100% good and call things as we see them. That's the real world.

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But you don't do that, it's apparent with your take on tariffs and the economy and inability to back up your poor takes.

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I've provided links and quotes from a variety of sources in the ongoing conversations on tariffs and interest rates. You simply choose to ignore them and look through your iron-clad Trump filter. There's no acknowledgment of any hint of truth from those sources, or any consideration of nuance. It's 100% rejection and Trump is 100% right. I can't help you with that.

Maybe we should shift the conversation to something that is 100% measurable and inarguable. For starters, how about the upcoming 2026 midterms. If Trump is 100% right and everything is hunky dory, then the R's should sweep Congress again, right? If the majority of voters are happy with Trump, then they'll reelect his party to power. We can measure that in clear terms with election results.

What do you think is the likelihood that voters will endorse Trump's policies with a R sweep in Congress next fall?

I'll go first. I put those odds at 25%.

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Betting markets are at about 47%

BusterAg said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Again, why not just say thank you to Trump rather than trying to find ever inventive ways to say "no really guys, Trump is crashing the economy and Dems are going to waltz to a huge blue wave in 2026".

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It's not a case of Trump is 100% bad or 100% good. You seem to really struggle with that... anybody who criticizes him or his policies is "bad" or has "TDS." L oh freaking L... that's TDS on the right.

I see his policies as roughly 70% good and 30% bad. That's better than 2 to 1, not bad. There's never been a politician that I agree with 100% of the time.

The Dem option was atrocious. It always is.

We have to get past the notion that Trump is 100% bad or 100% good and call things as we see them. That's the real world.

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But you don't do that, it's apparent with your take on tariffs and the economy and inability to back up your poor takes.

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I've provided links and quotes from a variety of sources in the ongoing conversations on tariffs and interest rates. You simply choose to ignore them and look through your iron-clad Trump filter. There's no acknowledgment of any hint of truth from those sources, or any consideration of nuance. It's 100% rejection and Trump is 100% right. I can't help you with that.

Maybe we should shift the conversation to something that is 100% measurable and inarguable. For starters, how about the upcoming 2026 midterms. If Trump is 100% right and everything is hunky dory, then the R's should sweep Congress again, right? If the majority of voters are happy with Trump, then they'll reelect his party to power. We can measure that in clear terms with election results.

What do you think is the likelihood that voters will endorse Trump's policies with a R sweep in Congress next fall?

I'll go first. I put those odds at 25%.

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Betting markets are at about 47%

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My numbers show 45% to 47%.

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Trump has received a lot of negatives for the border and immigration, and I'm glad he's done it.

It will take more time and much more than tweets and EOs to get real and lasting things that'll help most Americans in ways they want.

He's done all he can with EOs, otherwise I'd imagine he'd have done it with them by now.

Again, he's having a decent first quarter. I'm just not seeing where there's anything to show, yet, to get excited about.

Then again, I'm more of wait until the game is actually won before celebrating kind of person.

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How about this one.

Thanks to Chevron deference getting drop-kicked to the moon by Trump's SCOTUS, Trump's DOJ just made it illegal to give discretionary HUD and MUD entitlements to illegal aliens.

Some 60% of illegal aliens receive some sort of welfare. Trump's DOJ just said that isn't legal anymore.

Is that good or bad, in your opinion?

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.justice.gov/olc/media/1421356/dl?inline

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MemphisAg1 said:

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I'll go first. I put those odds at 25%.

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Betting markets are at about 47%

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So roughly 50/50, a toss up.

Eleven months out, I wouldn't expect betting markets to be materially different.

Will be interesting to see how that tracks as we get closer.

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I'll go first. I put those odds at 25%.

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Betting markets are at about 47%

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So roughly 50/50, a toss up.

Eleven months out, I wouldn't expect betting markets to be materially different.

Will be interesting to see how that tracks as we get closer.

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On point. I would expect it to flutter between the 45s one way or the other until late summer 2026.

Since all midterms generally go strongly against the current party, any headway Trump makes in this one will be a W. Redistricting is already helping.

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Since all midterms generally go strongly against the current party, any headway Trump makes in this one will be a W. Redistricting is already helping.

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Yeah, I'm not gonna accept any interpretation of a Dem sweep of Congress as vindication of his policies or behavior. I would absolutely accept a R sweep as vindication. Much harder to interpret if they lose one and retain one, and depend on the margin of victory/defeat.

Its time for Republicans to come up with a post Trump era, the more they wait the worse it gets.

Burpelson said:

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Its time for Republicans to come up with a post Trump era, the more they wait the worse it gets.

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bro

there is more than THREE YEARS left of the Trump Presidency!!

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Burpelson said:

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Its time for Republicans to come up with a post Trump era, the more they wait the worse it gets.

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bro

there is more than THREE YEARS left of the Trump Presidency!!

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Their worst nightmares await the end of the Trump era. They will be lost souls with no leader to follow and no villain to hate.

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BusterAg said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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I'll go first. I put those odds at 25%.

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Betting markets are at about 47%

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So roughly 50/50, a toss up.

Eleven months out, I wouldn't expect betting markets to be materially different.

Will be interesting to see how that tracks as we get closer.

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polymarket has R sweep at 21%, D sweep at 34%, and D house R senate at 45%. sounds about right based on the current landscape.

BusterAg said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Trump has received a lot of negatives for the border and immigration, and I'm glad he's done it.

It will take more time and much more than tweets and EOs to get real and lasting things that'll help most Americans in ways they want.

He's done all he can with EOs, otherwise I'd imagine he'd have done it with them by now.

Again, he's having a decent first quarter. I'm just not seeing where there's anything to show, yet, to get excited about.

Then again, I'm more of wait until the game is actually won before celebrating kind of person.

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How about this one.

Thanks to Chevron deference getting drop-kicked to the moon by Trump's SCOTUS, Trump's DOJ just made it illegal to give discretionary HUD and MUD entitlements to illegal aliens.

Some 60% of illegal aliens receive some sort of welfare. Trump's DOJ just said that isn't legal anymore.

Is that good or bad, in your opinion?

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.justice.gov/olc/media/1421356/dl?inline

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That's all good in my book.

Agree

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Its time for Republicans to come up with a post Trump era, the more they wait the worse it gets.

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Are you SURE you really want that?

Because I'm not sure you really want that.

It's not going to get less populist in nature. Just fewer mean tweets, and less entertaining.

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Burpelson said:

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Its time for Republicans to come up with a post Trump era, the more they wait the worse it gets.

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Are you SURE you really want that?

Because I'm not sure you really want that.

It's not going to get less populist in nature. Just fewer mean tweets, and less entertaining.

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Politics is going to get boring AF, again, when Trump is gone. I mean, DeSantis tried, Vance tries, Cruz tries. They all try, but they all come off as politicians trying to act whatever.

Oh well, at least we had a good run.

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MemphisAg1 said:

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BusterAg said:

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I'll go first. I put those odds at 25%.

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Betting markets are at about 47%

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So roughly 50/50, a toss up.

Eleven months out, I wouldn't expect betting markets to be materially different.

Will be interesting to see how that tracks as we get closer.

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polymarket has R sweep at 21%, D sweep at 34%, and D house R senate at 45%. sounds about right based on the current landscape.

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That 21% likelihood of an R sweep aligns with my 25%.

“I cannot recall a primetime presidential address that was as hyper-partisan as this one."

- Jon Karl https://t.co/g7M6yvqaps pic.twitter.com/C5LaSpwHIO

— Western Lensman (@WesternLensman) December 18, 2025

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Rick Wilson's reaction to Trump's address.

https://www.againstallenemies.net/p/what-the-hell-was-that-speech?utm_source=live-stream-redirect&triedRedirect=true

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Any other pedos you want to link here?

Ellis Wyatt said:

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shiftyandquick said:

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Rick Wilson's reaction to Trump's address.

https://www.againstallenemies.net/p/what-the-hell-was-that-speech?utm_source=live-stream-redirect&triedRedirect=true

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Rick Wilson is a liar and piece of garbage. Is he the Lincoln Project pedophile also?

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Yes

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HTownAg98 said:

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They pulled in data from November when retailers were starting to offer holiday discounts.

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It was the November report...

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Only last two weeks.

No Spin Ag said:

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Politics is going to get boring AF, again, when Trump is gone. I mean, DeSantis tried, Vance tries, Cruz tries. They all try, but they all come off as politicians trying to act whatever.

Oh well, at least we had a good run.

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With any "luck," Jr. will show up to save the day.

flown-the-coop said:

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Unforced errors as in you continue to chicken little about tariffs? And I am the one with blinders?

2026 will be a banner year for the US of A and your pocket books. Take a moment to thank Trump rather than nitpicking about what YOU think are "unforced errors".

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LOL accidentally found another FTC Trump defense in the wild.

ftcDS noted. Accident my arse.

And 2026 being a banner year for the US economy is being widely predicted at this point. It also happens to be relevant to the topic, unlike your drive by.

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Burpelson said:

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Its time for Republicans to come up with a post Trump era, the more they wait the worse it gets.

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bro

there is more than THREE YEARS left of the Trump Presidency!!

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Their worst nightmares await the end of the Trump era. They will be lost souls with no leader to follow and no villain to hate.

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I'd be happy with Vance or Rubio or Desantis

japantiger said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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LMCane said:

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Burpelson said:

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Its time for Republicans to come up with a post Trump era, the more they wait the worse it gets.

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bro

there is more than THREE YEARS left of the Trump Presidency!!

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Their worst nightmares await the end of the Trump era. They will be lost souls with no leader to follow and no villain to hate.

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I'd be happy with Vance or Rubio or Desantis

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As soon as one of those guys pop up their heads, libs will turn them, their families, their friends and more into the antichrist and minions of the antichrist.

Trump just had the scratch, the platforms and the thick skin to withstand it.

I feel bad for those guys honestly. They already think Vance
Is a meathead cross dresser with eye makeup who yells at his wife in public and who he demands convert to Christian.

Oh, and he changed his name a couple times and only a disciple of lucifer would do that.

flown-the-coop said:

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japantiger said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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LMCane said:

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Burpelson said:

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Its time for Republicans to come up with a post Trump era, the more they wait the worse it gets.

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bro

there is more than THREE YEARS left of the Trump Presidency!!

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Their worst nightmares await the end of the Trump era. They will be lost souls with no leader to follow and no villain to hate.

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I'd be happy with Vance or Rubio or Desantis

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As soon as one of those guys pop up their heads, libs will turn them, their families, their friends and more into the antichrist and minions of the antichrist.

Trump just had the scratch, the platforms and the thick skin to withstand it.

I feel bad for those guys honestly. They already think Vance
Is a meathead cross dresser with eye makeup who yells at his wife in public and who he demands convert to Christian.

Oh, and he changed his name a couple times and only a disciple of lucifer would do that.

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He sounds perfect....I'm in. Anyone that makes them that insane has to be worth it.