Protests Erupt across Iran

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Who?mikejones! said:

Taco


TACO getting Maduro out of Venezuela? Typical liberal response
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Just answering a question broseph.
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See what a good lead blocker can do for an offense?

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LMCane said:

samurai_science said:

It will take civil war and buckets of blood to throw off the current rulers. I doubt the Iranian people are willing to die for it.

I don't think that is the case anymore.

Islamic Republic can no longer count on Lebanese Hizbullah to mow down their Iranian citizens because the Israelis killed off a thousand of their best fighters

they can't count on Syria sending help because Assad is deposed and hiding in Moscow.

so they are left with Iraqi Hizbullah.


if 3 million people go into the streets and start taking over police stations there is no way to control that.


We're rooting for the same team in Israel, but there was never a world where Iran's theocracy was counting on Lebanon's million Shiites (even down 1,000 terrorists abutting Israel), Syria's 10% Alawites (2-3 million no longer in power heterodox Shiites), or mortal enemy/rival Iraq's Shiites to quell domestic distress.

Iran is a country of 90+ million - counting on a handful of non-Persian proxies to operate inside Iran to suppress local Persians seems like it would be the sort of thing frowned upon from a nationalistic angle. Were they counting on Bahrain and Yemen too as far as keeping the locals in line?
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Leroy Jenkins!!!!
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sam callahan said:

Leroy Jenkins!!!!

At least he ain't chicken.
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Khameini preparing to flee. Powerline synopsis (of London Times):
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Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has a back-up plan to flee the country should his security forces fail to suppress protests or desert, according to an intelligence report shared with The Times.
Khamenei, 86, plans to escape Tehran with a close circle of up to 20 aides and family, should he see that the army and security called on to quell the unrest are deserting, defecting or failing to follow orders.


Which is how unpopular dictatorships collapse. Fleeing to Russia, of course, is what Bashar al-Assad did. And Khamenei is a fan of Vladimir Putin:
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Khamenei also "admires Putin, while the Iranian culture is more similar to the Russian culture".

Dictators generally admire one another. They have a lot in common.
Khamenei reportedly has been stashing assets outside of Iran:
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"They have plotted an exit route out of Tehran should they feel the need to escape," which includes "gathering assets, properties abroad and cash to facilitate their safe passage", the source said.
Khamenei is known to hold a major network of assets, some under one of the most powerful organisations in Iran, Setad part of a system of semi-state charitable foundations known for their financial obfuscation. Estimates put the total holdings at $95 billion, according to a Reuters investigation in 2013, including properties and companies, all held and controlled by Khamenei.


These preparations predate the Trump administration's arrest of Nicolas Maduro. If Maduro's apprehension motivates Iranians to continue their protests, and if it causes the mullahs andmore importanttheir security forces to think the handwriting is on the wall, the regime's collapse could come sooner than anyone expects.

Sounds good to me. A dios m-effer.
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we need MAXIMUM pressure to force Khameini to flee to Moscow.

so far it is way premature- he is only creating a plan in the event his thugs stop shooting at the people.

do we strike the IRGC and Basij based across the country now?

I am thinking most effective is targeted eliminations of the senior leadership by gunfire or bomb in their house or car
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Did the other Iran thread get taken down?
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I'm nervous about tightening the noose around Iran, and it backfiring there. Going to be difficult to fix that mess.
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It's really the second person. If everyone else stands and watches, it is a lone crazy person. If a second person is inspired, others see a license to join in.
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MouthBQ98 said:

It's really the second person. If everyone else stands and watches, it is a lone crazy person. If a second person is inspired, others see a license to join in.

One person…can change everything.
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THIS needs to happen in hundreds of Iranian cities and towns!!

in farsi: not a single military or IRGC remaining in this town and they have destroyed the SEPAH Bank which is the IRGC funding bank

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nortex97 said:

MouthBQ98 said:

It's really the second person. If everyone else stands and watches, it is a lone crazy person. If a second person is inspired, others see a license to join in.

One person…can change everything.



Can't help but love seeing people fight for their right to be governed the way they want.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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they need to be sending this photo all over Iran today!

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The Collective said:

I'm nervous about tightening the noose around Iran, and it backfiring there. Going to be difficult to fix that mess.


We don't fix it. We just force a roll of the dice.

It could end up worse. But what are the odds?
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LMCane said:

they need to be sending this photo all over Iran today!



That little fruitcake hated Trump when he was John McCain's lap dog.

As soon as McCain died, he became Trump's biggest supporter.

That little cake eating friend of Dorothy knows how to survive, I'll give him that.
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4 said:

LMCane said:

they need to be sending this photo all over Iran today!



That little fruitcake hated Trump when he was John McCain's lap dog.

As soon as McCain died, he became Trump's biggest supporter.

That little cake eating friend of Dorothy knows how to survive, I'll give him that.


Who is that? Mickey Rooney, Jr.?
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Squadron7 said:

4 said:

LMCane said:

they need to be sending this photo all over Iran today!



That little fruitcake hated Trump when he was John McCain's lap dog.

As soon as McCain died, he became Trump's biggest supporter.

That little cake eating friend of Dorothy knows how to survive, I'll give him that.


Who is that? Mickey Rooney, Jr.?


Othal from Beetlejuice
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Question for you military baws, especially the effects of bombs on different soils with respect to underground bunkers.

We have discussed here about the groundwater being sucked out causing soil instability. Will bombs be able to cause even more damage due to those soil conditions? Not speaking of MOABs.
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It's not really about bombs from what I have read, but that they built a dam, incompetently, and it resulted in more saline deposits due to where/how it was constructed, and more drought, and there's just not much they can do about it all now. (Not a dam expert.)


It's a real mess, as with their currency.
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The Collective said:

I'm nervous about tightening the noose around Iran, and it backfiring there. Going to be difficult to fix that mess.

Uh what?

what exactly would 'backfiring' look like?

as it is there is an insane Islamist military dictatorship for 47 years

which has demolished the country and trying to build nuclear weapons and leading the world in supporting terrorists across the planet!!


what exactly would be worse?!?
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LMCane said:

The Collective said:

I'm nervous about tightening the noose around Iran, and it backfiring there. Going to be difficult to fix that mess.

Uh what?

what exactly would 'backfiring' look like?

as it is there is an insane Islamist military dictatorship for 47 years

which has demolished the country and trying to build nuclear weapons and leading the world in supporting terrorists across the planet!!


what exactly would be worse?!?

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I was more talking about the size of explosions still happening Tehran at mostly IRGC facilities including bunkers. There does not appear to be bombing or missile strikes but happening on the ground that I can discern. Sabotage.
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#FJB
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aggiehawg said:

Question for you military baws, especially the effects of bombs on different soils with respect to underground bunkers.

We have discussed here about the groundwater being sucked out causing soil instability. Will bombs be able to cause even more damage due to those soil conditions? Not speaking of MOABs.

Groundwater is being sucked out by completely unregulated pumping and introduction of deep electric submersible pumps in regions where none-such ever existed and the water use is woefully inefficient.

It's over-pumping deep aquifers with recharge times measured in eons, not months. So even a "wet year" will have little to no immediate or long term affect.

The subsidence is deeper than any bomb impact. These aquifers are likely a thousand or more feet deep. It's geologic.

It's also a process that is now carefully monitored throughout the greater Houston area. Houston switched from mostly surface water in the 1970's to mitigate the problem, and groundwater withdrawals are now regulated.
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nortex97 said:

It's not really about bombs from what I have read, but that they built a dam, incompetently, and it resulted in more saline deposits due to where/how it was constructed, and more drought, and there's just not much they can do about it all now. (Not a dam expert.)


It's a real mess, as with their currency.

Check the YT video I posted back on Page 7.
I think it's only one dam that resulted in a saline lake and salty water downstream. But they have numerous other dams that are all at very very low reservoir levels.

Water is also diverted to causes that benefited the regime (think nuclear and other industrial sites) at the detriment of the people. Surface infrastructure is also in terrible shape which leads to a lot of wasted water. They have the lowest water use efficiency in the entire region.
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txags92 said:

LMCane said:

The Collective said:

I'm nervous about tightening the noose around Iran, and it backfiring there. Going to be difficult to fix that mess.

Uh what?

what exactly would 'backfiring' look like?

as it is there is an insane Islamist military dictatorship for 47 years

which has demolished the country and trying to build nuclear weapons and leading the world in supporting terrorists across the planet!!


what exactly would be worse?!?




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Iran is still a mess, offering to pay citizens 7 bucks a month now to cover skyrocketing costs (4 months up front).

Never thought I'd read that headline.

Riots/protests don't seem to have died down at all from what I've seen.
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Niyak is a good follow; non-Muslim Iranian based in the UK (hopefully Starmer's thugs don't arrest him for heresy/apostacy). The Grand Bazaar in Tehran would be an epicenter the regime normally would have prevented large protests against itself from happening in.

The mullah's thugs must be exhausted at this point. Reza Pahlavi wrote a piece/sat for an interview I guess in the WSJ but it's pay walled so I am not linking. Basically says the Iranian people will decide what happens next.

Ayatollah has detailed plans to flee with wealth, and obtain safe passage to Moscow I read on X. "If necessary."
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Sorry for the triple post but there's a lot going on over there right this second. The Israeli's seem to be pushing for the Pahlavi return;

BBC reports 29 confirmed dead at this point.
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why wouldn't all the protestors go and take the 5 pound payout from the government...

and then KEEP PROTESTING?!
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Khomeini is done one way or another imo. Going to be very interesting to see how this develops . Hope whatever happens doesn't cause enormous bloodshed.
 
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