This is our economic future if the left gets and keeps power.

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If only it'd ever actually happen. Been excited before but it never amounts to anything

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Yep they do this every few years. Tired of Lucy moving the football.

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LOL, good reference. I just wish I could vehemently disagree.

The massive currency devaluation after the stagflation, and then the water shortage (failed state planning) seem to have been triggers.

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This is why this isn't a real threat to Iran. Most of those protesting don't want to overthrow the government they want to overthrow the current leaders. These protesters want a better functioning theocracy, they aren't seeking freedom for their sisters and daughters.

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not true

they are LITERALLY YELLING TO BRING BACK THE SHAH'S SON

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some people.

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TAMUallen said:

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If only it'd ever actually happen. Been excited before but it never amounts to anything

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Yep they do this every few years. Tired of Lucy moving the football.

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All human empires/regimes fall, eventually. It's just a matter of time.

This one feels different, somehow.

Team Iran-Venezuela seems pretty desperate, to me.

The U.S. Coast Guard is continuing to pursue the Guyana-flagged Iranian-linked sanctioned crude oil tanker, M/T Bella 1, which is currently sailing northwest through the Northern Atlantic possibly towards Iceland or Greenland, with the crew having recently painted the Russian… pic.twitter.com/AQpc1tz6Ka

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) December 30, 2025

(Note, this tanker has long been used to smuggle 'stuff' between Iran and VZ).

🚨 The Iranian regime has opened fire on protesters after days of demonstrations in the streets pic.twitter.com/QVIREwyR2Z

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) December 30, 2025

What was there ancient religion called?

Zoroastrianism

I expect the leaders of Iran will attack a few tankers in the Persian Gulf, just for a distraction.

Maybe the Trump administration can do better to support the Iranian protestors than Biden and Obama (who backed the ayatollahs). But even with U.S. support the protestors have an uphill climb unless they can get support from the military.

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Maybe the Trump administration can do better to support the Iranian protestors than Biden and Obama (who backed the ayatollahs). But even with U.S. support the protestors have an uphill climb unless they can get support from the military.

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How to do that? Who pays the military? Their source of funding? If Hamas and Hezbollah (among others) are out of the financing biz, then who? China? No help from them. Russia? Not sure they can keep that up but if they can, Russia would rather have the proxy state.

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Hah ! I see what you did there ! Saw/Listened to them in person back in the day !

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We are aging ourselves, and I'm so glad we didn't have cell phones back in the day!

This happened in 2017, 2019, 2021, and 2022. Nothing will happen. Almost as if these are planned.

I'm not sure why that boat would think Iceland or Greenland would help them.

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Saw this news story earlier - 'll believe it when i see it.

Turns out life under the Shah wasn't so bad.

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It was for the commies and islamists that overthrew him. Explains why the left hated him so much despite his land redistribution and giving women the right to vote.

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IYKYK

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Those guys were hilarious. Now they could not do what that did back then, even though it was funny as heck.

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fc2112 said:

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Saw this news story earlier - 'll believe it when i see it.

Turns out life under the Shah wasn't so bad.

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It was for the commies and islamists that overthrew him. Explains why the left hated him so much despite his land redistribution and giving women the right to vote.

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Worked with retired military that spent time in Iran when the Shah was there, commies wound up dead in the gutter.

a few thousand CIA and Mossad and Green Berets in Iran will give us the new ruling family:

You know Trump is funding community organizers over there.

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Saw this news story earlier - 'll believe it when i see it.

Turns out life under the Shah wasn't so bad.

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It was for the commies and islamists that overthrew him. Explains why the left hated him so much despite his land redistribution and giving women the right to vote.

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The Shah was a lesson to much of the rest of the ME. He wanted to Westernize his country and went faster than the people were probably ready to do. The Kingdom, in particular, goes as slow as they do to keep the Wahhabi clerics at bay.

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Saw this news story earlier - 'll believe it when i see it.

Turns out life under the Shah wasn't so bad.

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It was for the commies and islamists that overthrew him. Explains why the left hated him so much despite his land redistribution and giving women the right to vote.

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The Shah was a lesson to much of the rest of the ME. He wanted to Westernize his country and went faster than the people were probably ready to do. The Kingdom, in particular, goes as slow as they do to keep the Wahhabi clerics at bay.

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Wahhabis are Sunni and Iran is now predominantly Shia. Are you inferring Sunnis are trying to grow in population and political strength in Iran?

No, just pointing out that one of the reasons the Shah was deposed was for going too fast and the rest of the ME knows they need to modernize but are afraid of going too fast.

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a few thousand CIA and Mossad and Green Berets in Iran will give us the new ruling family:

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Is that guy on the end a Pahlevi? He resembles the Shah

Yes that's his son the crown prince

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No, just pointing out that one of the reasons the Shah was deposed was for going too fast and the rest of the ME knows they need to modernize but are afraid of going too fast.

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This is true. The Shah's Iran though was also pretty brutal which is why/how the Ayatollah's message took root so strongly, to say nothing of our CIA/president at the time.

Of course, Jimmy Carter is who managed to persuade the Shah to leave and arranged for Khomeini to fly in from Paris which was a disaster, because he believed him when he told Carter he'd be a reformer of rights and an American ally also. Jews even have a history in Iran dating back to Cyrus the Great (after he conquered Babylon he allowed them to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the Temple.)

The Pahlavi dynasty was fairly friendly and tolerant compared to other ME regimes. Reza Shah and then his son Mohammad Reza Shah pursued the 'White Revolution' of industrialization/westernization. In the 1970s, Iran's Jewish population was even around 80,000100,000 (mostly in Tehran, Shiraz, and Isfahan).

The revolution of the 1970s was originally spearheaded by a student movement that didn't like the Shah's despotic tendencies. They didn't have their revolt thought out, and once they had hostages they didn't know what to do. The mullahs stepped in a took over. The students probably never realized the devil they bargained with would be worse than the devil they already had.

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fc2112 said:

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Saw this news story earlier - 'll believe it when i see it.

Turns out life under the Shah wasn't so bad.

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It was for the commies and islamists that overthrew him. Explains why the left hated him so much despite his land redistribution and giving women the right to vote.

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Worked with retired military that spent time in Iran when the Shah was there, commies wound up dead in the gutter.

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Dead in a gutter is too good for a communist.

Here are scenes of all the pro-Hamas supporters

similarly going into the streets to support the citizens of Iran today.

BREAKING: IRAN SECURITY COMMANDER ELIMINATED

Reports from Iran claim Mohammad Kowsari, Intelligence & Operations Commander of the Imam Hassan Security Unit in Kermanshah, has been eliminated.

Kowsari was reportedly involved in intelligence, arrests, and suppression of protests… pic.twitter.com/bzmTNjAgiQ

— Mossad Commentary (@MOSSADil) December 31, 2025

Not exactly a tragedy.

The crown piss ain't the guy. He has no balls. A revolution needs a leader to rally around. Mousavi was the closest.

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Maybe the Trump administration can do better to support the Iranian protestors than Biden and Obama (who backed the ayatollahs). But even with U.S. support the protestors have an uphill climb unless they can get support from the military.

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How to do that? Who pays the military? Their source of funding? If Hamas and Hezbollah (among others) are out of the financing biz, then who? China? No help from them. Russia? Not sure they can keep that up but if they can, Russia would rather have the proxy state.

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It was the other way around. Iran funded and armed Hamas and Hezbollah through Syria. With Assad out of the way Hamas and Hezbollah are in big trouble.

I love this.
A brave Iranian girl defies the regime with a simple act of freedom.

They threaten prison.
She shows courage.

Free Iran - soon. pic.twitter.com/27C4nCI8Z9

— Hananya Naftali (@HananyaNaftali) December 31, 2025

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Maybe the Trump administration can do better to support the Iranian protestors than Biden and Obama (who backed the ayatollahs). But even with U.S. support the protestors have an uphill climb unless they can get support from the military.

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How to do that? Who pays the military? Their source of funding? If Hamas and Hezbollah (among others) are out of the financing biz, then who? China? No help from them. Russia? Not sure they can keep that up but if they can, Russia would rather have the proxy state.

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It was the other way around. Iran funded and armed Hamas and Hezbollah through Syria. With Assad out of the way Hamas and Hezbollah are in big trouble.

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Except now we have an ISIS run Syria....so bad for Hamas, but worse for EVERYONE ELSE. Assad was better for stability

This guy is Persian whose family had to flee Iran. Super conservative ( The good kind ) and is a good source for what is going on in Iran.

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Maybe the Trump administration can do better to support the Iranian protestors than Biden and Obama (who backed the ayatollahs). But even with U.S. support the protestors have an uphill climb unless they can get support from the military.

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How to do that? Who pays the military? Their source of funding? If Hamas and Hezbollah (among others) are out of the financing biz, then who? China? No help from them. Russia? Not sure they can keep that up but if they can, Russia would rather have the proxy state.

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It was the other way around. Iran funded and armed Hamas and Hezbollah through Syria. With Assad out of the way Hamas and Hezbollah are in big trouble.

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Except now we have an ISIS run Syria....so bad for Hamas, but worse for EVERYONE ELSE. Assad was better for stability

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This is factually incorrect.

BREAKING:

The Iranian anti-regime protesters have taken control of the city of Ramhormoz in the Khuzestan Governorship.

They are now burning down the regime’s local government HQ pic.twitter.com/AjaK0hJ7NZ

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) January 1, 2026