Who you root for means I dont really care what you have to say on a US game thread.Brian Earl Spilner said:
Uh, who I root for has nothing to do with what I said?
The 2nd statement is a fact.
***** USMNT vs Canada WCQ Game Thread (1/30) *****
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The 2nd statement is a fact.
Start a thread about Mexican soccer, and go talk to yourself over there…Brian Earl Spilner said:
Uh, who I root for has nothing to do with what I said?
Anyone want to kick my dog?
Aggie basketball and US Soccer weekend
Aggie basketball and US Soccer weekend
It's no reason to be an ass for no good reason. We both want USA to qualify.
Pulisic is the real deal. He is exceptional player. But you wouldn't know it by watching him play lately.
He was lackluster against El Salvador. Just aimless dribbling into trouble for entire game. No vision or awareness. Horrible crosses. Pouting at the ref too much.
He was worse today. I know he wears the captain's armband and is paid a ton by Chelsea. But he was awful against Canada.
If Gregg allows him to take set pieces, then it's on coaching. However, the captain needs to speak up and say "let Acosta take them, we're better off". Be a leader. If he is going rogue, then coaches need to yank him. USMNT had to straighten out Dempsey years ago by embarrassing him.
Look at that shot with a few minutes to go. You throw every player in the box. You sling some kind of cross in there that the keeper can't touch. That's it. That's what 99% of players would do. And he lollipops one in there? If he hit it perfectly it beats the keeper 1 out of 20 times.
He was lackluster against El Salvador. Just aimless dribbling into trouble for entire game. No vision or awareness. Horrible crosses. Pouting at the ref too much.
He was worse today. I know he wears the captain's armband and is paid a ton by Chelsea. But he was awful against Canada.
If Gregg allows him to take set pieces, then it's on coaching. However, the captain needs to speak up and say "let Acosta take them, we're better off". Be a leader. If he is going rogue, then coaches need to yank him. USMNT had to straighten out Dempsey years ago by embarrassing him.
Look at that shot with a few minutes to go. You throw every player in the box. You sling some kind of cross in there that the keeper can't touch. That's it. That's what 99% of players would do. And he lollipops one in there? If he hit it perfectly it beats the keeper 1 out of 20 times.
This.
aggiephoenix02 said:Start a thread about Mexican soccer, and go talk to yourself over there…Brian Earl Spilner said:
Uh, who I root for has nothing to do with what I said?
You have stars, you can block me if my posting bothers you. I've done zero antagonizing.
It's just mutliple discussions and trains of thought.
We have the micro of this specific game, then keeping in mind the overall qualification process, and then the trend of the team as it progresses towards the world cup itself.
All of those have different expectations and ways to evaluate it.
This game was very discouraging, but losing it doesn't truly affect our chances to qualify. It would have been nice to tie or even win, but it doesnt change anything. We still win at home and advance.
The trend of the team playing disjointed soccer offensively is still a concern, and where I am the most worried because it seems to tie directly to decisions by Gregg.
Time to watch some NFL and try to put this game out of mind for a while. It will be interesting to look at some of the more indepth analysis that comes out the rest of today and tomorrow though.
We have the micro of this specific game, then keeping in mind the overall qualification process, and then the trend of the team as it progresses towards the world cup itself.
All of those have different expectations and ways to evaluate it.
This game was very discouraging, but losing it doesn't truly affect our chances to qualify. It would have been nice to tie or even win, but it doesnt change anything. We still win at home and advance.
The trend of the team playing disjointed soccer offensively is still a concern, and where I am the most worried because it seems to tie directly to decisions by Gregg.
Time to watch some NFL and try to put this game out of mind for a while. It will be interesting to look at some of the more indepth analysis that comes out the rest of today and tomorrow though.
PatAg said:Its not just today, it's every game we play. We've covered it ad-nauseum on this forum, and there are countless articles about it. Feel free to read uptysker said:PatAg said:
Ultimately its a road game and its not a big deal to lose
Realistic takeaway is there can be no real confidence in Gregg to make the right tactical decisions before the game, or to make the right lineup decisions, or deploy the players correctly.
I think he fundamentally approaches the international game incorrectly
What would you have done differently today?
Kinda a lame answer.
Could it be these players just arent any good? Those subs (again) but what are the better options?
Not many teams can breakdown a 6-man defensive line especially those with guys pressing as hard as ours do
Agree with all of that. Especially since, at least in games, I cant remember any free kick he has taken that looked threatening. Maybe a handful of dangerous crosses
Deux a zero
Juan Solo said:
Deux a zero
DeangeloVickers said:
Anyone want to kick my dog?
Aggie basketball and US Soccer weekend
Oh and Paramount + ****ing sucks
This very post here is antagonizing…Brian Earl Spilner said:aggiephoenix02 said:Start a thread about Mexican soccer, and go talk to yourself over there…Brian Earl Spilner said:
Uh, who I root for has nothing to do with what I said?
You have stars, you can block me if my posting bothers you. I've done zero antagonizing.
Honduras will look similar- defend and try to burn us on counters with Quioto and Elis. We will need to find a way to get more chances with our possession or we have a good chance to drop points the same way we did today. Can't drop home points. I do think Honduras is more likely to make a defensive error and we have the home crowd and cold weather.
https://twitter.com/JeffreyCarlisle/status/1487914848365076481?s=20&t=7LGrWlNDPrhLrBkdsVBhAg
Berhalter: "The result hurts. The performance doesn't hurt."
Berhalter: "The result hurts. The performance doesn't hurt."
https://twitter.com/johnspacemuller/status/1487898099821514753?s=20&t=7LGrWlNDPrhLrBkdsVBhAg
I wonder if this is what GGG is intending for Pulisic to do, or if he just does what he wants.
I'd be ok with benching a player to get a point across if he is just ignoring strategy
I wonder if this is what GGG is intending for Pulisic to do, or if he just does what he wants.
I'd be ok with benching a player to get a point across if he is just ignoring strategy
Gregg sucks so bad. Tactics are non existent. any games won are done on superior talent plays, not any meaningful team play. makes the skill dropoff from euro to mls players so noticable.
I think we have talked about it before, but there is a nagging thought in the back of my mind that all of our players are now good enough to play a role on top 5 league teams...but Im not sure any of them are good enough to be the impact players yet.
So on the national team, its going to require a few of those players to take that leap with the style we are trying to play. We need those linebreaking passes that come with vision and confidence, not just instantly playing back or turning and playing laterally. It takes that game sense to make yourself available off the ball, and read a play quickly and make that incisive run
So on the national team, its going to require a few of those players to take that leap with the style we are trying to play. We need those linebreaking passes that come with vision and confidence, not just instantly playing back or turning and playing laterally. It takes that game sense to make yourself available off the ball, and read a play quickly and make that incisive run
It's a circular argument, but I think our system of play would work with a couple clinics attacking players. That said, we don't have those (at least currently), so it's really frustrating to watch us look like we'll likely never score another goal.
PatAg said:
https://twitter.com/johnspacemuller/status/1487898099821514753?s=20&t=7LGrWlNDPrhLrBkdsVBhAg
I wonder if this is what GGG is intending for Pulisic to do, or if he just does what he wants.
I'd be ok with benching a player to get a point across if he is just ignoring strategy
We need CP and Weston to be game changers and they may not be there game in and game out. The problem is that the guys behind them obviously are not it.
Starting Arriola and bringing in CP with 30 mins left may have been a better strategy today given the speed and physical play but no way would the fans have accepted it
His set pieces may have been lacking but some of his corners were sublime.
That's kind of my question, what pieces are we missing and are they elsewhere in the pool? Having Reyna out doesn't help either.
I can't tell if we're trying to shoehorn players into a system that doesn't play to their strengths or if the overall quality isn't there.
I can't tell if we're trying to shoehorn players into a system that doesn't play to their strengths or if the overall quality isn't there.
It may be the generic answer, but I feel like its a little of all that. I think we are attempt to play and learn a system, that in theory woudl work, but in practice clearly doesnt with this group of players.fig96 said:
That's kind of my question, what pieces are we missing and are they elsewhere in the pool? Having Reyna out doesn't help either.
I can't tell if we're trying to shoehorn players into a system that doesn't play to their strengths or if the overall quality isn't there.
Having Reyna would definitely help this team be more dangerous in combination play and through the middle of the field.
It's the system. The talent in the pool has never been greater and that's in both absolute terms and relative to the rest of CONCACAF.
I'm not sure if this is right but I feel that the system isn't great for CONCACF qualifying but can be more useful/better against better teams. Which means that this could reap dividends IF we qualify. I don't know...I could be full of it.
I'm not sure if this is right but I feel that the system isn't great for CONCACF qualifying but can be more useful/better against better teams. Which means that this could reap dividends IF we qualify. I don't know...I could be full of it.
PatAg said:It may be the generic answer, but I feel like its a little of all that. I think we are attempt to play and learn a system, that in theory woudl work, but in practice clearly doesnt with this group of players.fig96 said:
That's kind of my question, what pieces are we missing and are they elsewhere in the pool? Having Reyna out doesn't help either.
I can't tell if we're trying to shoehorn players into a system that doesn't play to their strengths or if the overall quality isn't there.
Having Reyna would definitely help this team be more dangerous in combination play and through the middle of the field.
But where does Reyna play to make an impact? Is he a winger coming inside or do we replace one of the MMA midfield?
This is kinda where I've landed, and I think it's pretty accurate.
Fair answer and one I tend to agree with.
Some of our players aren't in great form right now which doesn't help, but you have to think that we could take advantage of what these individuals can do in a better way.
This is the criticism a lot of us had early on when Gregg seemed to forcing round legs into square holes but that chatter subsided when we had a great run of play last summer. Now, however, we seem to be repeating the same thing and expecting different results.
Some of our players aren't in great form right now which doesn't help, but you have to think that we could take advantage of what these individuals can do in a better way.
This is the criticism a lot of us had early on when Gregg seemed to forcing round legs into square holes but that chatter subsided when we had a great run of play last summer. Now, however, we seem to be repeating the same thing and expecting different results.
Well, we'll have much more favorable officiating, NOT questionable Concacaf refs. That will help tremendously. For example, think about how many ticky tack fouls on Pulasic will be called in the World Cup that aren't called in Concacaf play…Pahdz said:
This is kinda where I've landed, and I think it's pretty accurate.
Personally, I would either insert Reyna centrally for one of the MMA, or you play him as a winger and let him drift centrally whenever he feels it in the game.tysker said:PatAg said:It may be the generic answer, but I feel like its a little of all that. I think we are attempt to play and learn a system, that in theory woudl work, but in practice clearly doesnt with this group of players.fig96 said:
That's kind of my question, what pieces are we missing and are they elsewhere in the pool? Having Reyna out doesn't help either.
I can't tell if we're trying to shoehorn players into a system that doesn't play to their strengths or if the overall quality isn't there.
Having Reyna would definitely help this team be more dangerous in combination play and through the middle of the field.
But where does Reyna play to make an impact? Is he a winger coming inside or do we replace one of the MMA midfield?
In theory you could even have him pushed up playing withdrawn under Pepi and let him float around, but that doesnt jive with our current tactics.
But what's crazy is that even during all the positive results last year, we only had one or two games were we were convincing. We won a lot on 1-nil games that had our keepers standing on their heads making great saves last year.
Today was the opposite. We pushed and pulled and landed with one good chance in WMs header from a set piece. Canada looked like they were playing for a draw and won 2-0.
Today was the opposite. We pushed and pulled and landed with one good chance in WMs header from a set piece. Canada looked like they were playing for a draw and won 2-0.
Dre_00 said:
It's the system. The talent in the pool has never been greater and that's in both absolute terms and relative to the rest of CONCACAF.
I'm not sure if this is right but I feel that the system isn't great for CONCACF qualifying but can be more useful/better against better teams. Which means that this could reap dividends IF we qualify. I don't know...I could be full of it.
I don't disagree at all… our roster still is missing a clinical central attacker, imo. The constant roster churn doesn't help. And really the back half of our lineup is pretty dang elite. We give up a soft goal every once in while, but so does every national team outside a couple. Our outside players want to bring the ball centrally and create, but you just can't do that much in CONCACAF qualifying, it's too tight and too physical.
Gregg isn't some hidden genius that only reveals itself against better teams. it is what it is.
I don't think it's Gregg as much as the officiating…JW said:
Gregg isn't some hidden genius that only reveals itself against better teams. it is what it is.
I agree with this. I feel like there's space to be had there and if I am going to the WC, I want Pulisic, Weah, and Reyna all on the field together.PatAg said:Personally, I would either insert Reyna centrally for one of the MMA, or you play him as a winger and let him drift centrally whenever he feels it in the game.tysker said:PatAg said:It may be the generic answer, but I feel like its a little of all that. I think we are attempt to play and learn a system, that in theory woudl work, but in practice clearly doesnt with this group of players.fig96 said:
That's kind of my question, what pieces are we missing and are they elsewhere in the pool? Having Reyna out doesn't help either.
I can't tell if we're trying to shoehorn players into a system that doesn't play to their strengths or if the overall quality isn't there.
Having Reyna would definitely help this team be more dangerous in combination play and through the middle of the field.
But where does Reyna play to make an impact? Is he a winger coming inside or do we replace one of the MMA midfield?
In theory you could even have him pushed up playing withdrawn under Pepi and let him float around, but that doesnt jive with our current tactics.
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