***NBA Finals - OKC vs. Heat***

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@nbastats: That was LeBron's FIRST clutch (5 pt game, 5 mins left) basket on the road in the Finals in his entire career #Finals


So if it's a 6 point game and he makes a basket, it's not considered "clutch?" **** outta here with these arbitrary parameters.
Why argue about any stat? Run the numbers for us on the 6 point games and let us know how much it changes things.


Why? They're just random stats that remove 90% of the context while reducing these games to arbitrary numbers. That's the point I'm trying to make. You can post all the stats you want, but if you honestly thought LeBron didn't show up or play a part in this win based on these random ass parameters/guidelines, then there is no point in arguing with you.
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^^^^^^^^^
94chem
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Sure, Judge, that's cool - just ask for help if you don't know the rule. Sometimes your husband doesn't tell you all of the nuances, and you need a little extra info.
Bunk Moreland
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without Lebron, this Heat team loses in 4 to Indy.
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Well put HNiC
Whistling For Flies
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Here's the thing about Lebron haters: Even if he averages 30/8/8 for this series and the Heat narrowly get a series win (which I give about a 45% chance of happening), the haters will find something else to hate about. It won't "count" for one reason or another.
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They'll move the carrot to the fact that he doesnt have 7 rings

there is no pleasing the haters
bayouaggie
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I hope Lebron goes off for something sick in Miami. Maybe a 45/14/8 game will shut some people up.
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Sure, Judge, that's cool - just ask for help if you don't know the rule. Sometimes your husband doesn't tell you all of the nuances, and you need a little extra info.

Damn dude, go easy on me.
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It won't "count" for one reason or another.


we already know the answer. It'll be because he couldn't do it "on his own" in Cleveland...like Kobe(shaq) did in LA, or Jordan(Pippen) did in Chicago, or Duncan(DR/TP/Manu) did in San Antonio...or let's go back even further to Magic and Bird...because we all know Cleveland was just loaded with talent around Lebron, he just couldn't win the big one.
Head Ninja In Charge
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And for anyone wondering, LeBron is third on my most hated NBA players ever list behind Stockton and McGrady, so don't try to bring the fellatio **** into it.

You either watch basketball or you don't. Threads like this are a good litmus test for who does/doesn't.
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The only thing funnier than LeBron hate is his defenders.

Guys, it's just a game. And these are just fans. They don't need a REALLY good reason to hate him.

It's probably enough that he's cheated competition to join up with Wade and Bosh, put on a ridiculous not 1, not 2, not 3, etc. show with those guys, then promptly checked out of the finals last year with the Championship on the line.

You can like the guy. He is a great player. But if, in light of the way all this has gone down, you can't figure out why he's disliked you just don't get sports.

And my guess is that you all, as Aggie fans, must have loved Vince Young in 05.
Bunk Moreland
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yeah, HNIC makes it clear on this board for his disdain of LBJ. If he's posting it then you know it isn't coming with bias.
Jacques
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They'll move the carrot to the fact that he doesnt have 7 rings

there is no pleasing the haters


Isn't that where HE set the bar?
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And my guess is that you all, as Aggie fans, must have loved Vince Young in 05.


How do you feel about Durant?
Bunk Moreland
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It's probably enough that he's cheated competition to join up with Wade and Bosh,


and there it is. that was quick.
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It's probably enough that he's cheated competition to join up with Wade and Bosh,

cheated competition? so when Pau Gasol complained that he wanted to be traded to a title contender and won 2 titles, he cheated?

When malone and payton went to the lakers, they cheated?

When KG and Ray Allen both complained themselves out of their respective cities to join paul pierce, they cheated?

There is no cheating in free agency. Everyone had a chance at LeBron and he chose to go wherever he wanted
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You can post all the stats you want, but if you honestly thought LeBron didn't show up or play a part in this win based on these random ass parameters/guidelines, then there is no point in arguing with you.
But he DID make a clutch shot and they won, and he's being acknowledged for it. I know I always enjoy Lebron's regular season clutch stats being constantly posted on this forum. Now he's on the board in the Finals
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Not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4
Jacques
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How do you feel about Durant?



I love the guy, but I'm a Horn.

The question is how did you feel about Colt McCoy? Vince Young?

I mean, those guys were great college quarterbacks. But Aggies hate those guys. Anyone that doesn't understand why is an idiot.

Well, people actually have better reasons to hate LeBron.
Bunk Moreland
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Colt is a good guy. Vince is a tool. Met them both.

Next question.
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but I'm a Horn.


What the hell are you doing on a TexAgs NBA board?
Jacques
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cheated competition? so when Pau Gasol complained that he wanted to be traded to a title contender and won 2 titles, he cheated?

When malone and payton went to the lakers, they cheated?

When KG and Ray Allen both complained themselves out of their respective cities to join paul pierce, they cheated?

There is no cheating in free agency. Everyone had a chance at LeBron and he chose to go wherever he wanted


Not a Laker or Celts fan so where are you going with this?
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you said lebron cheated competition

i'm giving you examples of players who forced themselves into other situations to try and win rings
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It's probably enough that he's cheated competition to join up with Wade and Bosh,


Which is, of course, why everyone hates Boston. Garnett's ring doesn't count.
Jacques
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you said lebron cheated competition

i'm giving you examples of players who forced themselves into other situations to try and win rings


And Im not fans of them either, so WTF?
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you sure you graduated from Texas?
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Which is, of course, why everyone hates Boston. Garnett's ring doesn't count.


Garnett's a dick. Who likes him?
Jacques
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People HATE great players ALL THE TIME. It is part of being a fan. Very few fans just objectively appreciate greatness. And there is someone that pretty much all of you hate for no good reason. At a visceral level.

So why is it, with this one guy, there are people that absolutely can't get why people don't like him?

Did I miss him saving 100 orphans from a fire or something?
Bunk Moreland
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I completely understand why people don't like him. I laugh my ass off when people try to justify their hate for him by citing his "stats" in arbitrary manners when he has been the most dominant player in the league the last 4 years, has turned in some of the most clutch playoff performances in history in his short(ish) career, and continues to put up numbers that no one else touches.
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He's one of the few superstars that is actually a great person on and off the court. It's so rare

No beating his wife, no baby mamas, no legal/drug issues, no DWIs, no cheating, nothing.

It's so nice to see that
Jacques
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I completely understand why people don't like him. I laugh my ass off when people try to justify their hate for him by citing his "stats" in arbitrary manners when he has been the most dominant player in the league the last 4 years, has turned in some of the most clutch playoff performances in history in his short(ish) career, and continues to put up numbers that no one else touches.


Again, people do that with great players ALL THE TIME. Maybe the ONE GUY that didn't get that was Jordan.

I'd be very surprised if you yourself had not downplayed someone's greatness in the past because they played for the wrong team.
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Damn if only he made that 1 last shot


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Kevin Durant is the only player since the merger with 16+ 4th-quarter Pts in consecutive NBA Finals games. #Elias

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Kevin Durant has 33 combined 4th-quarter Pts in his 1st 2 career NBA Finals games. That's 10 more than anyone else since the merger. #Elias
Jacques
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no baby mamas,


Didn't he have two kids out of wedlock?
Look Out Below
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Malone and Payton were way over the hill and didn't win dick. Gasol, complain or no, was never a free agent. KG gave Minnesota 12 freaking years and Allen spent 12 years in the black holes of Milwaukee and Seattle.

LeBron was playing for his hometown team, had made the Finals and had a GM that was at least trying to bring folks in to help him...then he treated his hometown team like his father treated him except in a wildly public forum. THAT is why he has haters.
 
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