****Houston Rockets 2012 Offseason Thread****

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Boom. Yep Sessions was terrible compared to this idiotic move.

You do realize Lins own teammate called the contract Houston offered "ridiculous"

This is going to go awesomely down the crapper. See: Tmac, Yao.
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Lin's teammate called it ridiculous because it would have cost the Knicks 56 million dollars in luxury tax in 3 years if they matched it because of the way it was structured. If it was just 8mm/year, the Knicks would have matched it without question.
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Boom. Yep Sessions was terrible compared to this idiotic move.

You do realize Lins own teammate called the contract Houston offered "ridiculous"

This is going to go awesomely down the crapper. See: Tmac, Yao.

What's more ridiculous, Lin's contract, or the Knicks trading half a team for Carmelo when they could have had him for free a few months later?

Lin helps keep Dwight because of his marketability. Doesn't mean we will, but it increases our chances. At worst, the final year of Lin's contract he becomes a valuable expiring contract.
Simplebay
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carmelo is a superstar. not gonna win that argument.

Jeremy Lin has played 23 good games in his entire NBA career. And by that I mean scored more than 10 points.

Congratulations Daryl Morey on paying an unproven player 1.1 million dollars for each of those games. Rockets just took the next step
Mr.Bond
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SimpleGay,
You have zero credibility. Carmelo is the Drew Bledsoe of "superstars" he has talent but is no where near a top 10 player in the NBA. Once again why are you on this topic?
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Jeremy Lin has played 23 good games in his entire NBA career. And by that I mean scored more than 10 points.


And Sessions averaged 11 PPG and 5 APG in his career (12 PPG and 6 APG in 23 games for the Lakers) and you thought he was going to be the final piece in helping the Lakers win the championship last season.

You can't have it both ways so just STFU.
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Morey has a terrible track record with point guards, amirite?
Guitarsoup
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It wouldn't surprise me if the Lin signing wasn't a Morey signing.
Rockets Owners: We are gonna suck for a long time since Dwight doesn't want to play here, right?
Morey: Yeah. You have to have a star, and you don't get a star with the 14-24th picks in the draft.
Rockets Owners: We are slowly losing our Yao fanbase. If we are gonna suck for a long time, we might as well suck with Chinese Money lining our pockets.
Morey: Wait, I can get more role players to fit around Scola. Omar Asik is available and he is a great defender in the 12 minutes a game he plays. If he played 48 minutes a game like that, he would basically be a young Deke Mutumbo.
Owners: Chinese Money. Sign Lin. We can get to 45 wins and the 8th seed with him, right?
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It wouldn't surprise me if the Lin signing wasn't a Morey signing.
Rockets Owners: We are gonna suck for a long time since Dwight doesn't want to play here, right?
Morey: Yeah. You have to have a star, and you don't get a star with the 14-24th picks in the draft.
Rockets Owners: We are slowly losing our Yao fanbase. If we are gonna suck for a long time, we might as well suck with Chinese Money lining our pockets.
Morey: Wait, I can get more role players to fit around Scola. Omar Asik is available and he is a great defender in the 12 minutes a game he plays. If he played 48 minutes a game like that, he would basically be a young Deke Mutumbo.
Owners: Chinese Money. Sign Lin. We can get to 45 wins and the 8th seed with him, right?


I bet that's more truth than fiction.
Mr.Bond
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Morey has a terrible track record with point guards, amirite?


Sarcasm
HotardAg07
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Last season, Lin was the 8th most efficient scorer on ISO plays last year per MySynergySports... I think moneyball guys really like him.
KTAG05
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NY will not match its LINSANITY in the tine!
Ryan34
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Dwightmare + Linsanity = $$$
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Lin really has a Tebow feel to him in that some people really like him and others really don't. I personally think he will be a quality starting PG, but we'll see.

"Sports do not build character. They reveal it."
-John Wooden
Gradin
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I am fine with the Lin deal.

If we somehow land Howard, I hope we don't give up too much. Orlando should have no leverage.
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I'll be honest, even Linsanity + Bynum would be a welcome change around here.
Houston Summit
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LINSANITY!
TheBirdsandBeedrills
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Why don't we just wait a year and pick Bynum up in free agency?
Ryan34
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Why don't we just wait a year and pick Bynum up in free agency?

Because max level players almost always sign-and-trade anyways, and there's no guarantee he'd sign with us.
Ryan34
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Now ESPN reporting that the Cavs are back in the mix. Saying Varejo, Bynum, and Howard are all involved. Doesn't make sense from Orlando's perspective. I'll give Hennigan credit for trying to get the best deal possible, but I don't see how the best deal is one that doesn't involve Houston's cap flexibility, guaranteed lottery pick, and Martin's contract.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8176960/sources-cleveland-cavaliers-trade-partner-potential-dwight-howard-deal

I still think Orlando has little leverage. Trying to drive up the bargains perhaps. I bet Morey was not willing to give up too much.

[This message has been edited by Gradin (edited 7/19/2012 7:56a).]
Ryan34
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I'm thinking the same thing Gradin. Why would Orlando want Varejo? They are trying to shed cap and he's not cheap. 8.4, 9.1, and 9.8 the next three years.
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At this point I get the feeling that potential partners with Orlando are getting fed up with their reluctance to pull the trigger on a deal?

How long before GMs simply walk away as a result of the constant back and forth?
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Why would Orlando want Varejo?
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because they were so blown away by his performance against team usa the other night
HotardAg07
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Orlando is just trying to create a market for Dwight, because the Rockets are really the only team that can give them the extent of financial flexibility they seek and the future picks.
Quantum ace
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SimpleGay aka faker fan posting on a topic that has nothing to do with him



Geeze, you people are obsessed. Were you just sitting there hitting F5 waiting for Simplebay to post a comment echoed by talk radio callers and mildly informed sports fans?

His comment was rather weak, but you chose to attack him just for commenting. That is weak, and borderline stalker creepy.

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You do realize Lins own teammate called the contract Houston offered "ridiculous"



You are using the word "teammate" rather loosely. While they played on the same professional organization (another term I use loosely when referring to the Knicks) at the same time, I don't think Carmelo has ever played as part of a team.
Mr.Bond
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Quantum

HotardAg07
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They used to be roomies
Quantum ace
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I actually lived in a storage area in the garage because I couldn't afford a room.

But, I spent enough time around him to know you are just going to drive yourself and everyone around you crazy if you start crying every time he says something mildly stupid. You might as well save everyone a lot of trouble by waiting until he does something genuinely stupid to yell at him. Its not like you have to wait long.

This board has always been terrible about beating a dead horse, then starting 7 new threads to discuss said beating. I really need to find a better place to catch up on NBA news.
Basketball and Chain
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It's funny to see you defend a guy that started a thread to brag about the Lakers getting a free agent for nothing. A free agent. For nothing. Again, a FREE agent.

Wow.
Quantum ace
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Who the hell did I defend? I just said Bond was a mentally challenged stalker, because he chose to attack Simplebay simply for posting on a "topic that doesnt concern him", instead of responded to the content of his post. That is how women argue when they lack actual facts and opinions, by changing the subject. A correct response would have been to explain why Simplebays post was factually wrong and his opinion invalid, then chastise him for lack of knowledge and advise him not to discuss topics he does not understand. As an option, you could close with a comment about his mothers weight (They are almost done retrofitting a full sized van to accommodate her extra heavy duty scooter, so she will be able to leave the house to buy donuts and cigarettes again soon!)
Mr.Bond
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Mentally challenged stalker? You obviously don't post here much. That ass clown does nothing but come on to any topic non laker related and attempts to **** on it. He then acts like every move the fakers make is world changing (again mostly on rockets threads) so quit defending your boyfriend clown

[This message has been edited by Mr.bond (edited 7/19/2012 7:42a).]
RebAg13
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Quantum just don't defend simplebay. He trolls a ton
Ryan34
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Orlando is just trying to create a market for Dwight, because the Rockets are really the only team that can give them the extent of financial flexibility they seek and the future picks.

Agreed. LA really wants to get a deal done, but Orlando is stalling. LA could move on. I still think the deal will have to go through Houston.
Mr.Bond
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It HAS be be a stall. Why In the ***** would Orlando want Varejo an his terrible contract
 
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