Donald Sterling

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Twelfthman
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It does appear he is SOL on the lifetime ban though


Yeah, I think the lifetime ban will definitely stick no matter what, as it's clearly within the bounds of either law he can be punished with.

Financially, the fine isn't a big deal either way, I think that it comes down to which rule he is punished under. The defined "detrimental conduct" rule that comes with the $1M fine is basically a lesser rule, and all punishments are defined within it, I think making the course to forced sale harder. If it is upheld that he's punished under the "Commissioner's discretion" rule, with the $2.5M fine, I think the course to forced sale becomes easier, though still a tough battle.

He stands to be forced to sell either by "failure to uphold contract" or "willfully breaking the by-laws".

The failure to uphold the contract will most likely be based on discrimination, which by definition has to involve prejudiced treatment, and while what he said is prejudiced, he has not been proven to have treated anyone within the organization with this known prejudice (Elgin Baylor sued him for discrimination, but lost).

On the other hand, a case can be made that he did NOT willfully break the by-laws, his statements coming in a private conversation. Especially if he makes it to court, he can air all of the dirty laundry he knows about in pre-trial discovery, probably outing at least one other member of the NBA.

In any case, Sterling keeping the team until his death is financially beneficial to his family, because of all the laws surrounding capital gains taxes and such. He'll have to pay 33% of sale price minus $12.5M if he's forced to sell now, whereas if he dies and his family sells the capital gains tax will be on the difference between market value and actual sale price.
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Hope he fights it.
aggie_2001_2005
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I'm a Spurs fan, but I love Mark Cuban. He's the only person nowadays with tons of money who actually seems to care about good business ethics to some degree.

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After initially stating that an ouster of Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling was a "slippery slope," Dallas' Mark Cuban refused to comment after NBA commissioner Adam Silver did just that Tuesday.

"I'm going to tell you exactly what I did," Cuban said. "I went and looked at a picture of my house since I'm on the road and I saw that it was made out of a whole lot of glass, so I decided I don't have anything more to say on the whole topic. That's my statement." When asked how he would vote, Cuban said, "That's it. That's all I've got to say."
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Cubes also said he agreed 100% with Silver's punishment for Sterling.
aggie_2001_2005
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You're paraphrasing and really missing the context of all of Cuban's takes so far.
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@mcuban
I agree 100% with Commissioner Silvers findings and the actions taken against Donald Sterling
aggie_2001_2005
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And if you reference his other comments on the issue he was specifically referring to the fine and the ban from games / team activity.

Not on trying to vote Sterling out of the league.
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I hope the owner vote is public.
aggie_2001_2005
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And it will mean nothing if it is. Because no one is going to out themselves and vote against it. The most that might happen is someone abstaining.

Hell, by voting against it, Silver might label that owner "racist" and decide to remove them as well.

[This message has been edited by aggie_2001_2005 (edited 4/30/2014 11:41p).]
aggie_2001_2005
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Welcome to the new NBA.
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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/paul-bremmer/2014/04/30/esquire-s-pierce-asks-why-doesn-t-nba-punish-owners-who-oppose-gay-mar

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[W]hat does Adam Silver now do, for example, with the DeVos family in Orlando, which funds anti-gay candidates and anti-gay issue ads all over the country, as well as owning the Orlando Magic? Does he talk to them? This is an entirely new world, and if we’re going to step into it, let’s step all the way into it.
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Shaq should be banned for life as well.

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Tell Yao Ming, 'Ching chong yang, wah, ah soh'
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Ganondorf
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Stuff like super Dave's link is the reason Cuban has gone silent about this. He supports the commissioners decision because you have to or you'll be labeled a racist too but he sees this is dangerous.
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SIAP

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mAgnoliAg
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Advisory committee unanimously desires to go forward with terminating him
Stros94
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Magnolia.. completely unrelated to this thread but have you looked at yin yak in the past hour? beyond entertaining there are some very butthurt sorority girls complaining about blinn team girls being able to rush.
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What? I'm interested in butthurt sorority girls though.
Stros94
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download yin yak.. They announced today that blinn team girls will now be able to rush and sorority girls are very very upset.

I personally couldn't give 2 ****s... but if I had to have an opinion I would say theres nothing wrong with them rushing.

For everyone else on this thread I'm sorry I know this is unrelated
mAgnoliAg
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Why would they ****ing care? I thought they were already allowed.
Stros94
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Scared they will be less valued.. they claim its because "they aren't into A&M" but they pay A&M tuition.. Made the college choice to attend A&M right?
Twelfthman
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And turns out Sterling has been battling cancer. Any known cancer treatment related drugs that make you say stupid things?
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the worm may have just turned in Sterling's favor
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yeah right
reb,
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having cancer isn't going to win him any pity or respite from backlash
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hopefully, in the aftermath, Silver signals that this was more of a last straw/nuclear option type of deal than the outset of a purity purge
reb,
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given sterling's past, that won't be a hard sell at all
cone
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yes

but it still needs to be signaled
DTP02
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It's a horrible case to establish legal or policy precedent for the NBA. The NBA essentially ignored his prior public history of racist actions, and then imposed the death penalty based on private racially-charged statements which contain a significant amount of ambiguity. They basically acted because of the PR backlash moreso than the statements themselves, which provides some cover under a "best interest of the league" perspective but also opens them up to be challenged on several fronts.

[This message has been edited by DTP02 (edited 5/2/2014 2:54p).]
Bunk Moreland
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It came out that night that multiple teams that evening let the league office know they weren't going to take the court unless he received a lifetime ban.

The Warriors were apparently ready to walk on the court and walk off as soon as they tipped.

Would that have actually happened? I'm not sure, but the league wasn't going to risk it during their highest ratings moment of the year(and catapulted even higher due to the Sterling drama).

Silver and the league definitely caved quick when the threats that the teams would blow it up and not play came about. Tough situation, because you can't defend Sterling, so this doesn't need to be the issue the league stands its ground on.

Unfortunately, it also has put them in a very odd position not only for any future instances going forward, but for future negotiation with the players.
jackie childs
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i don't believe for one second any teams weren't taking the court. if that had been the case, that should have been leaked BEFORE the presser. coming out after just screams BS to me.

and i don't think we can really say the NBA has ignored sterling's past because who knows what role his past played in the public/media outcry in this latest incident? if this had happened to another owner, one without the sketchy past and one who came out immediately, apologized and asked forgiveness, i don't think we're talking about yanking his team.
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that should have been leaked BEFORE the presser
the clippers definitely were not going to take the court. That news leaked a day before the announcement
Houston Summit
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I'm sorry, but threatening to walk out and quit a playoff game because of some comments made by an 80+ year old man in the privacy of his home seems pretty ridiculous to me
jackie childs
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the clippers definitely were not going to take the court. That news leaked a day before the announcement
and of the teams that supposedly were not going to, the clipper would be the most hilariously hypocritical
 
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