I still can't believe the Lakers* made that trade. What were they** thinking?

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Enzo The Baker said:

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I still can't believe the Lakers* made that trade. What were they** thinking?

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*LeBron
**he

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No idea. I kind of like it from the Wizards perspective.

C Bryant/Trez
PF Rui/Kuz
SF Avdija/Bertans
SG KCP/Kispert
PG Beal/Holliday

Need a legit PG, but better than last few years.

And significant cap space next year to boot!

Pendragon12 said:

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Wright's shouldn't even be an intern in an NBA front office, and Pop and R.C. have given him the keys because of his skin color.

The league's getting bigger at every position and this dip**** keeps grabbing 6'5" and under guards.

And even if this pick works out, the reality is they could have traded down. We know Atlanta gave up Reddish and the 20 to move to 16.

Could have gotten a rotational SF and still grabbed Primo at 20 if they had their heart set on this kid.

Just abysmal management. Add it to everything else Wright has overseen and this clown is doing everything he can to destroy this team's future.

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Look, just stop. You don't know that's why he got the job, and saying so because it feeds your anger doesn't make it any more true.

Brian Wright also made the Keldon pick which has worked out. NONE of us know what other teams are thinking. They very well could have known that Luka would be gone but Keldon had a higher chance of being available at 29. And I'm fairly certain RC was the main one who loved Luka. Same thing could have happened with Primo. There likely were deals to move down, but if they could only get to 20, and Primo was being looked at hard in the late teens, they got their guy. And atlanta didn't give up ***** Stop lying.

Brian Wright has likely shown enough people he deserved a shot at this job. You may not think so because you don't like his approach, but that doesn't make him an incompetent diversity hire. Every single GM makes questionable decisions. And we've seen some that looked questionable that turned out to not be. So give the kid and the off-season a chance, and take your racism/woke schtick elsewhere.

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Sorry, I've said my peace on it. Know someone (a minority seeings that apparently matters) who was part of the Spurs front office. Everything I've heard about Wright comes from him. He's no longer with the Spurs, but is part of the front office for another NBA team.. He was there before Wright came in, but Wright's been slowly replacing folks with his own guys (yes men basically).

He's the first person I heard call this a diversity hire, said Pop and Wright hit it off over some SJW initiatives the league was starting to push several years ago.

He was happy to get out, said Wright is in over his head and everyone in the league knows it.

Hopefully someone down there wises up in time to save this thing from completely bottoming out, and the Dell backed group wants to bring more analytics to the franchise, which in theory might expose Wright's flawed personnel analysis, but we'll have to see.

The diversity of our front office, or former front office, folks matters to one poster on this threadyou.

Some rumors on the nba sub on reddit that there was some interest in Primo in the mid to late teens. Rumor is OKC wanted him at 16, and Indiana was interested also who picked after us.

Pure internet speculation though, but it would make sense that Primo shot up some teams' draft boards late and the mocks hadn't picked it up yet. While I still feel he's a reach at 12, as I said earlier, if he's your guy and you don't want to risk it, you take him. There is still plenty of risk in the other prospects at 12 that it's not like you passed on a top 3 guy for a project.

I'm on board for a high upside guy who could still grow. I'll be positive and wait to see how it shakes out.

The Celtics are trading Tristan Thompson to Atlanta for Kris Dunn, and a 2023 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 30, 2021

Collins related.

Edit: NVM. It's part of a larger 3 team trade. Thompson going to Sac.

Pendragon12 said:

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Some rumors on the nba sub on reddit that there was some interest in Primo in the mid to late teens. Rumor is OKC wanted him at 16, and Indiana was interested also who picked after us.

Pure internet speculation though, but it would make sense that Primo shot up some teams' draft boards late and the mocks hadn't picked it up yet. While I still feel he's a reach at 12, as I said earlier, if he's your guy and you don't want to risk it, you take him. There is still plenty of risk in the other prospects at 12 that it's not like you passed on a top 3 guy for a project.

I'm on board for a high upside guy who could still grow. I'll be positive and wait to see how it shakes out.

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I saw one internet jockey with a decent point. He said Primo is the age of a HS senior now and was probably a slam dunk lotto pick next year. So we just grabbed him early.

Per a source: The San Antonio Spurs have extended a qualifying offer to Keita Bates-Diop. Bates-Diop will be a restricted free agent.

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) July 30, 2021

Per SI

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For context, I had Primo going at No. 20 to Atlanta in my final mock. Per sources, Primo was believed to be one of the players the Hawks were targeting in trade-up scenarios. I viewed him as a first-round lock, but the interest in him was much hotter than it seemed based on public mock drafts and whatever information had trickled out on the matter. Per sources, the Hornets (who opted for James Bouknight, after he slid) and Thunder (who could have taken Primo at No. 16 or 18) were also quite interested. The Spurs also loved Primo and were intent on landing him.

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Looks like some teams were looking draft Primo within the top 20 of the draft: https://t.co/B10jKyANM3 pic.twitter.com/0WyVRLEqx6

— Paul Garcia (@PaulGarciaNBA) July 30, 2021

The San Antonio Spurs are interested in pursuing John Collins, Kelly Oubre, and Zach Collins in free agency, per @JakeLFischer.

— Noah Magaro-George (@N_Magaro) July 31, 2021

I honestly don't understand the Oubre thing position wise. I like his nastiness and it kind of makes sense if Gay leaves, but getting him would leave a little to be desired. Also Devin needs his opportunity.

JC seems like he will be out of reach as Atlanta will likely do what it takes to keep him. ZC just can't stay healthy so would be a gamble, depending on what the offer looked like.

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I honestly don't understand the Oubre thing position wise.

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We need guys that can score 15ppg without being able to hit 3s at a decent rate in Pop's offense.

**** it. Let's pick up the phone, call Morey and make this Simmons trade happen.

Wonder if this is a possibility for the Spurs.

As @BobbyMarks42 says, the most Bucks can offer Portis is the $5.9M exception.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 31, 2021

LawHall88 said:

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Wonder if this is a possibility for the Spurs.

As @BobbyMarks42 says, the most Bucks can offer Portis is the $5.9M exception.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 31, 2021

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Absolutely on my radar as backup option to John Collins. Limited role backing up Giannis, but put up 20/12 with 47% from 3 per 36min. Just 26yo. Would slot nicely next to Poetl.

Still need a primary playmaker like Devonte' Graham or Lonzo. Charlotte has Rozier and Lamelo, so I could see them letting Graham go.

UFA SF Kelly Oubre Jr. has interest in the #Spurs, with his camp believing he would be a good fit in San Antonio and would flourish under Pop and the developmental staff, a league source said.

— Tom Orsborn (@tom_orsborn) July 31, 2021

A wrist injury ended Oubre’s 2020-21 season with Golden State early. Before the injury, he averaged 15.4 points and 6.0 rebounds over 55 games.

His agent, Torrel Harris, represents George Gervin.

— Tom Orsborn (@tom_orsborn) July 31, 2021

I would be OK with Oubre although I don't think he is the answer. I think Fournier would be a better if we are going after someone in free agency.

I like Portis, the Spurs need someone with an edge. But if they finish this off-season having parlayed Derozan and the number 12 into Primo and Portis, that'll be a pretty disappointing outcome.

Im not a fan of Fournier. Oubre is good. The problem is he got a max deal on his last contract and I really don't think he's worth that.

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I like Portis, the Spurs need someone with an edge. But if they finish this off-season having parlayed Derozan and the number 12 into Primo and Portis, that'll be a pretty disappointing outcome.

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I do like Portis as well. He was a beast in the playoffs.

Portis and Oubre aren't the answers, but they're younger veterans that have been in the league and can provide a little bit of leadership. Portis gives us spacing and some toughness and he just played a major role in a championship. Oubre may be inefficient, but he's a guy that can just go get a bucket, which we lack with Demar gone. As long as we don't screw our future cap space by over paying for these guys, I don't really mind.

I like Portis and Oubre at a reasonable price. We need size. Echoing others, assuming we don't overpay, I'm a fan of signing them both. I'd prefer J Collins, but I feel like Atlanta keeps him.

Atlanta has only added salary so far with the addition of Thompson and Delon Wright. Atl has 7mm going out (Dunn&Fernando) and 18.5mm coming in.

Atl is at 109 with the trades+1st rounder.

Collins will likely get 28mm starting. That's 137.3, with a luxury tax line of 136mm. Lou Williams is also a FA for them, and he was important to their playoff run.

Snell is a FA, but he's a vet min guy.

Their big problem is next summer. Thompson and Wright will be FAs. If they keep Collins, he will be at 30mm. Trae will get a 35mm rookie max. They will be at 120mm with 8 guys. (Trae, Capela, Gali, Reddish, Collins, Bogdan, Oke, the rookie they just drafted)

How many years are they willing to pay luxury tax?

Guitarsoup said:

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Atlanta has only added salary so far with the addition of Thompson and Delon Wright. Atl has 7mm going out (Dunn&Fernando) and 18.5mm coming in.

Atl is at 109 with the trades+1st rounder.

Collins will likely get 28mm starting. That's 137.3, with a luxury tax line of 136mm. Lou Williams is also a FA for them, and he was important to their playoff run.

Snell is a FA, but he's a vet min guy.

Their big problem is next summer. Thompson and Wright will be FAs. If they keep Collins, he will be at 30mm. Trae will get a 35mm rookie max. They will be at 120mm with 8 guys. (Trae, Capela, Gali, Reddish, Collins, Bogdan, Oke, the rookie they just drafted)

How many years are they willing to pay luxury tax?

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I'm glad you do the numbers. I can't keep up!

Sources: The Chicago Bulls and Lauri Markkanen are open to a sign-and-trade deal. Keep an eye on the Minnesota Timberwolves. Multiple teams with cap space, including the San Antonio Spurs and OKC Thunder also have interest in Markkanen. More on @hoopshype. https://t.co/LYSPVYoj6x

— Michael Scotto (@MikeAScotto) August 1, 2021

Also being reported by Fischer from BR (meh) that DDR is not willing to take the MLE to play in LA.

NBA came out with the schedule for the Salt Lake City summer league this week. Our rooks, Vassell and Tre are attending. Vegas summer league to follow next week (Aug. 8-17th).

https://www.nba.com/jazz/summerleague/2021

Tuesday August 3
Spurs Vs. Jazz
8PM CST- NBA TV

Wednesday August 4
Spurs Vs. Jazz
6PM CST - NBA TV

Friday August 6
Spurs Vs. Grizzlies
6PM CST - ESPNU

Vegas Summer League will start the following week (August 8th-17th). Here is the Spurs Schedule for that:

https://assets.website-files.com/60732cae70dd1854b4deeb27/6101bb6e753e5c7e3e86b4fe_Schedule-NBASL21-8.5x11-072321-FINAL.PDF

Monday August 9
Spurs Vs. MIN
6pm CST - ESPNU

Tuesday August 10
Spurs Vs. CHI
7pm CST - NBA TV

Thursday August 12
Spurs Vs. CHA
2pm CST - ESPNU

Sunday August 15
Spurs vs BKN
5pm CST - ESPN2

Monday & Tuesday - Playoffs TBD


Between this, FA and USAB, it should be the most active week of basketball before the NBA season starts.

Sounds like ATL is keeping Collins.

Ibaka opted in. He would have been a solid 4 for us.

Yea. The FA market looks like it's going to be pretty dry. I don't get the Lauri interest. Yes he can space the floor but 1) We would have to overpay him for what he does and 2) Why sign him if the Spurs have confidence in Luka? (Maybe they don't. I sure don't.)

The problem is as much of a black hole as Demar was on defense, he was still a playmaker and was our go to guy at the end of the games. So even if we sign some of these FAs to fill up our cap space and we lose DeMar, who's to say we get better? And if we do, it will only be incremental and I put our ceiling as another play-in candidate getting another late lottery draft pick.

Maybe I'm being shortsighted, but I think we should go after Simmons. And if not, just play our young guys heavy mins all season (hoping one of them turns into a playmaker), get a decent draft pick and approach FA next season with some cap space. Hopefully we don't give Walker a ridiculous extension. He doesn't deserve White/DJ money.

Fire this GM and Pop and blow it up Houston already has a better core after this draft alone

Enzo The Baker said:

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Yea. The FA market looks like it's going to be pretty dry. I don't get the Lauri interest. Yes he can space the floor but 1) We would have to overpay him for what he does and 2) Why sign him if the Spurs have confidence in Luka? (Maybe they don't. I sure don't.)

The problem is as much of a black hole as Demar was on defense, he was still a playmaker and was our go to guy at the end of the games. So even if we sign some of these FAs to fill up our cap space and we lose DeMar, who's to say we get better? And if we do, it will only be incremental and I put our ceiling as another play-in candidate getting another late lottery draft pick.

Maybe I'm being shortsighted, but I think we should go after Simmons. And if not, just play our young guys heavy mins all season (hoping one of them turns into a playmaker), get a decent draft pick and approach FA next season with some cap space. Hopefully we don't give Walker a ridiculous extension. He doesn't deserve White/DJ money.

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I don't think a pursuit of Simmons is shortsighted because of how young he is. However I'm not real sure what we could give up for Simmons. Clearly we're not doing the ridiculous deal that Morey proposed, but draft picks are our most valuable commodity since we're likely to be a lottery team. Why would we give up draft picks in the middle of a rebuild when historically we've built our teams through the draft?

I think because this rebuild does not include a #1 pick (or top 4 for that matter). That's the main difference. We've had the luxury of building our teams through the draft because we drafted particular players to fit with Tim. We don't have that luxury right now, and we can only draft so many #4-8+best players on a team. Otherwise it's just going to be perpetual.

If we can work out a trade for something like DJ and Lonnie with 3 firsts and two swaps I would consider it. I doubt Morey would like him but we can also consider them as DeMar destination. We have a lot of young guys right now that we can develop and we can get the majority of those picks we give up to align with the remaining 4 years of Simmons' contract.

All I'm saying is I want our front office to fully commit to competing or fully commit to rebuilding. This straddling of the two is just futile IMO.