W said:
speaking of Springer...
we are getting closer to George coming back to the Astros
just 2 years left on his Blue Jays contract
We don't need an aging right handed outfielder who's way overpaid.
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We don't need an aging right handed outfielder who's way overpaid.
Mathguy64 said:
We offered 6/156 publicly and Ketch said privately he got a bigger one from us and a bigger one yet from someone else.
That's 6 years and $30 AaV. I have no clue what he's waiting for
He's waiting on the 7th year.
Then he's nuts. If I were the GM I would have taken the 6/156 contract offer, scratched out the 6 and put a 7 in its place and said "Sure. There you go. Seven years just like you wanted."Beat40 said:Mathguy64 said:
We offered 6/156 publicly and Ketch said privately he got a bigger one from us and a bigger one yet from someone else.
That's 6 years and $30 AaV. I have no clue what he's waiting for
He's waiting on the 7th year.
Whoever is driving the bus (Alex or Boras) is driving in the desert at night, with no lights and no GPS all while wearing MIB standard issue Ray Bans.
he'll be cheap in 2027
I think Boras likes to drag things out to the point where potential suitors miss out on other options and force a bidding war when it becomes his client or bust. Dana said, F that and pulled the trigger on Walker. It wouldn't surprise me if Bregman ultimately signs for less than our offer, either in years or annual salary.
W said:
he'll be cheap in 2027
He's in a downward trend on both offense and defense. It's a really bad idea to sign guys based on nostalgia when their performance goes to hell. We got his best years already.
Mathguy64 said:Then he's nuts. If I were the GM I would have taken the 6/156 contract offer, scratched out the 6 and put a 7 in its place and said "Sure. There you go. Seven years just like you wanted."Beat40 said:Mathguy64 said:
We offered 6/156 publicly and Ketch said privately he got a bigger one from us and a bigger one yet from someone else.
That's 6 years and $30 AaV. I have no clue what he's waiting for
He's waiting on the 7th year.
Whoever is driving the bus (Alex or Boras) is driving in the desert at night, with no lights and no GPS all while wearing MIB standard issue Ray Bans.
Corbin Burnes contract details:
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) December 29, 2024
$10 million signing bonus
2025: $30 million ($10M deferred and paid in 2027)
2026: $30 million ($10M deferred and paid in 2028)
OPT OUT after 2026 season
2027: $35M ($10M deferred)
2028: $35M ($10M deferred)
2029: $35M ($10M deferred)
2030: $35M…
The Blue Jays need to start offering people insane money just to see if it's really just them.
LIke offer Alonso $480 million for 6 years and see what happens.
LIke offer Alonso $480 million for 6 years and see what happens.
And JR absolutely OWNED the Dodgers! LOLMathguy64 said:The Beef01 said:Oh I'd fully agree on Dierker.jja79 said:
Probably not many people my age here so most never saw him. Larry Dierker definitely belongs. In the majors at 17, played on some horrendous teams but won 137 games, pitched a no hitter, first 20 game winner, great broadcaster and Astros manager. He was absolutely a horse.
Jim Wynn would have hit who knows how many HR playing in the current band box. When he played the dimensions of the dome were 340 down the lines, 390 in the alleys and 406 to center.
The guy who is missing from the list who an old scout I grew-up learning from would talk about was J.R. Richard...insisted that Richard would be mentioned among the greats in the game had the stroke not ended his career very prematurely.
JRR was the right handed Randy Johnson of his time.
People who never saw him just cannot fathom how scary he was in the early years when he really had no control.
"only one thing is important!"
I'm expecting a few nostalgia signings of former players from the 2017 & 2022 title teams
at the end of their careers
1-year deals and such
at the end of their careers
1-year deals and such
W said:
I'm expecting a few nostalgia signings of former players from the 2017 & 2022 title teams
at the end of their careers
1-year deals and such
We've already done this with JV in 23 and 24. I don't want multiple of those guys on the team. Better to just do the 1 day contract so they can retire as Astros.
What if by then the team is mostly younger guys and would benefit from a veteran presence, similar to when we brought Beltran in for 2017?
redline248 said:
What if by then the team is mostly younger guys and would benefit from a veteran presence, similar to when we brought Beltran in for 2017?
Will have Altuve and Yordan for that role
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Hall of Fame voting has over 15% of the votes in. As expected, Ichiro (100%) and Wagner (88.3%} looking good for induction.
CC Sabathia (90%) off to a more solid start than expected. He was a dark horse 1st ballot candidate given the big market love and solid regular reason and playoff numbers.
Beltran (76.7%) has made a big year over year jump to put him on the fringe, but probably not enough to hold on as he saw a big drop last year between pre results and final count.
Andruw jones (70%) looks like he will have to wait until next year, which will be his 9th time on the ballot..
CC Sabathia (90%) off to a more solid start than expected. He was a dark horse 1st ballot candidate given the big market love and solid regular reason and playoff numbers.
Beltran (76.7%) has made a big year over year jump to put him on the fringe, but probably not enough to hold on as he saw a big drop last year between pre results and final count.
Andruw jones (70%) looks like he will have to wait until next year, which will be his 9th time on the ballot..
Andrew Jones is wild. 60 WAR by age 30 then basically nothing. I'd have him in based on peak performance.
the issue with Jones' hall of fame candidacy is not a secret -- right?
some players got a free pass for that era...and some did not
some players got a free pass for that era...and some did not
Jones and Berkman are fairly comparable and contemporary players, with Jones having the edge in counting stats based on playing longer. However other that HR, his numbers based on the big edge in games played aren't really there. He should have a bigger edge and doesn't. But the basic and sabermetric non counting stats all significantly favor Lance. And by significantly I mean it's not close. Yes Jones was an exceptional fielder, but Lance was the better hitter by far.
I've been pretty vocal that the writers who vote are idiots and dropping Lance from the ballot on the first try was criminal. Is he a HOFer? I think so. Is he marginal? No doubt and I can see the argument that he's in the HOVeryGood. But he basically got no votes. Putting Jones in would be a cruel joke.
I've been pretty vocal that the writers who vote are idiots and dropping Lance from the ballot on the first try was criminal. Is he a HOFer? I think so. Is he marginal? No doubt and I can see the argument that he's in the HOVeryGood. But he basically got no votes. Putting Jones in would be a cruel joke.
The Tigers have been unwilling to meet Alex Bregman's $200M asking price, but notable progress has been made over the last month. 👀 https://t.co/wL0eWJefNK pic.twitter.com/7kIFYGwVa3
— theScore (@theScore) December 28, 2024
I don't think his swing would do well in Detroit
Kenny Lofton another guy who shouldn't have been dropped at first ballot,, 68 bwar enough to earn at least a few years of votes
https://ts.la/eric59704
I don't think his anemic bat until mid June would make him a popular figure in the motor city.
DDP
His 210 career HR would be park adjusted to 158 if he played in Detroit. Between the dimensions and cold weather early and late I would think it would be a rough place for him to play. But I'm not the GM in Detroit. What do I know.EastCoastAgNc said:The Tigers have been unwilling to meet Alex Bregman's $200M asking price, but notable progress has been made over the last month. 👀 https://t.co/wL0eWJefNK pic.twitter.com/7kIFYGwVa3
— theScore (@theScore) December 28, 2024
I don't think his swing would do well in Detroit
It is wild that it takes him nearly a month to get going, every year.
07ag said:
Kenny Lofton another guy who shouldn't have been dropped at first ballot,, 68 bwar enough to earn at least a few years of votes
Yup. Compare him to Ichiro. It's not that different. One will be first ballot. One got like 2-4%.
Mathguy64 said:His 210 career HR would be park adjusted to 158 if he played in Detroit. Between the dimensions and cold weather early and late I would think it would be a rough place for him to play. But I'm not the GM in Detroit. What do I know.EastCoastAgNc said:The Tigers have been unwilling to meet Alex Bregman's $200M asking price, but notable progress has been made over the last month. 👀 https://t.co/wL0eWJefNK pic.twitter.com/7kIFYGwVa3
— theScore (@theScore) December 28, 2024
I don't think his swing would do well in Detroit
I'm not saying Baez 2.0 but it's not going to be pretty for him there.
Detroit...... what a dump
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
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No big deal, Boras has offers bigger than what Detroit is offering anyway.....EastCoastAgNc said:The Tigers have been unwilling to meet Alex Bregman's $200M asking price, but notable progress has been made over the last month. 👀 https://t.co/wL0eWJefNK pic.twitter.com/7kIFYGwVa3
— theScore (@theScore) December 28, 2024
I don't think his swing would do well in Detroit
He's leaving a park that is literally the most beneficial to his swing. Anywhere he goes would be worse. But Detroit would be one of the worst overall. It's not just Detroit but he's looking at playing lots of games in KC, Cle and Minn where he would also experience a significant drop in production just based on the parks. Overall, the ALCentral is the worst Division for him on expected HR.
But again, it's not my money.
But again, it's not my money.
Trade news: The Chicago Cubs are acquiring utilityman Vidal Bruján from the Miami Marlins for first baseman Matt Mervis, sources tell ESPN. The deal is done. Both are former top 100 prospects looking to carve out at-bats in a new location.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) December 29, 2024
If Ichiro had come to the US at age 22 instead of 27, there's a decent chance he breaks Pete Rose's hits record.
Rose finished at 4,256
Ichiro finished at 3,089
His first 5 years in the league, Ichiro averaged 226 hits per season. Give him 5 more years of that number tacked on to his career total and he's at 4,219. He also would have liked topped 600 steals (509 actual), 400 doubles (362 actual) and 1,900 runs (1,420 actual).
As it is, he finished 90th all-time in runs scored, 25th in hits, and 35th in steals. Starting 5 years earlier puts him on the short list of the greatest contact hitter of all time.
Rose finished at 4,256
Ichiro finished at 3,089
His first 5 years in the league, Ichiro averaged 226 hits per season. Give him 5 more years of that number tacked on to his career total and he's at 4,219. He also would have liked topped 600 steals (509 actual), 400 doubles (362 actual) and 1,900 runs (1,420 actual).
As it is, he finished 90th all-time in runs scored, 25th in hits, and 35th in steals. Starting 5 years earlier puts him on the short list of the greatest contact hitter of all time.
He's got three clubs on the phone right now, you better hurry!!!!n_touch said:No big deal, Boras has offers bigger than what Detroit is offering anyway.....EastCoastAgNc said:The Tigers have been unwilling to meet Alex Bregman's $200M asking price, but notable progress has been made over the last month. 👀 https://t.co/wL0eWJefNK pic.twitter.com/7kIFYGwVa3
— theScore (@theScore) December 28, 2024
I don't think his swing would do well in Detroit
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