4-year deal would be okay
because that gets him off the books before it's time to pay Yordan
because that gets him off the books before it's time to pay Yordan
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that's funnyProsperdick said:He would have better luck sprinting to 3rd from LF and tagging the runner out.JYDog90 said:Honest question. Even in LF he doesn't have the arm to gun someone at 3rd, does he?EastCoastAgNc said:LF Jose Altuve #altuve #astros https://t.co/Xwg3goxthq pic.twitter.com/gNg2L1Wom0
— D-Texan (@dtexanz) January 27, 2025
I asked this before, but what evidence is everyone basing the "Altuve can't throw from the outfield" rhetoric on?
Is this just a "he's short so surely he can't throw it far" assumption?
Is this just a "he's short so surely he can't throw it far" assumption?
Have you seen him throw?Silent For Too Long said:
I asked this before, but what evidence is everyone basing the "Altuve can't throw from the outfield" rhetoric on?
Is this just a "he's short so surely he can't throw it far" assumption?
His arm isn't anywhere what it used to be (his defense as a whole has really gone downhill) and he's not getting younger.
Watching games and seeing he can barely get it to 1st from 2nd
Yes I get all that, but has anyone actually seen him throw from the OF?
Throwing from 2nd to 1rst is a completely different throw.
Throwing from 2nd to 1rst is a completely different throw.
n_touch said:Not sure why you say that. They are currently sitting on 33 long term offers. The only BS offer is from the Astros. This is all on the team to get the deal done. If not, he has his pick of teams offering him well above 30 mill a year.Mr.Bond said:07ag said:Mr.Bond said:
I'm dumbfounded at Alex's sheer stubbornness
Why? What's the rush to get a contract signed?
It is my
Personal opinion the longer this goes on the less it benefits alex
LOLn_touch said:Not sure why you say that. They are currently sitting on 33 long term offers. The only BS offer is from the Astros. This is all on the team to get the deal done. If not, he has his pick of teams offering him well above 30 mill a year.Mr.Bond said:07ag said:Mr.Bond said:
I'm dumbfounded at Alex's sheer stubbornness
Why? What's the rush to get a contract signed?
It is my
Personal opinion the longer this goes on the less it benefits alex
— Houston Astros (@astros) January 28, 2025
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Dang 81 new posts in 2 hours… thought we made a move
The only moves occurring right now are the ones from our morning coffee. Good news is that the moves are crap, just like the news coming out of the Boras camp.tjack16 said:
Dang 81 new posts in 2 hours… thought we made a move
Scott Boras is desperately trying to save face with this Bregman contract, and the Astros seem to know it. The market is well established - HOU, BOS, DET, TOR. Nobody is going to give him what he’s asking for based on reports.
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) January 28, 2025
So now it’s a waiting game. Maybe a superstar gets…
This is spot on. Astros have made their offer and we absolutely should not budge. And if he continues to sit on his hands, we need to continue to be proactive and look at alternate moves.EastCoastAgNc said:Scott Boras is desperately trying to save face with this Bregman contract, and the Astros seem to know it. The market is well established - HOU, BOS, DET, TOR. Nobody is going to give him what he’s asking for based on reports.
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) January 28, 2025
So now it’s a waiting game. Maybe a superstar gets…
The ball is in Alex's court, and we aren't going to wait forever.
I agree with this take. Boras is making himself look like a fool IMO.EastCoastAgNc said:Scott Boras is desperately trying to save face with this Bregman contract, and the Astros seem to know it. The market is well established - HOU, BOS, DET, TOR. Nobody is going to give him what he’s asking for based on reports.
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) January 28, 2025
So now it’s a waiting game. Maybe a superstar gets…
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
This is absolutely laughable at this point. He is going from being the face of a franchise and having his number in the rafters with statues outside the stadium for years to come to being hated by the entire fanbase for 2 mill a year over 6 years.EastCoastAgNc said:Scott Boras is desperately trying to save face with this Bregman contract, and the Astros seem to know it. The market is well established - HOU, BOS, DET, TOR. Nobody is going to give him what he’s asking for based on reports.
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) January 28, 2025
So now it’s a waiting game. Maybe a superstar gets…
I am not sure what is going on here. You would think ego of having a lifetime of people look at you as a great would be well worth 12 million dollars when you will make over 200 million in your playing career.
Silent For Too Long said:
Yes I get all that, but has anyone actually seen him throw from the OF?
Throwing from 2nd to 1rst is a completely different throw.
So you're saying that he may not have an arm for a 70' throw but he's got a gun for a 200' throw?
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JYDog90 said:Silent For Too Long said:
Yes I get all that, but has anyone actually seen him throw from the OF?
Throwing from 2nd to 1rst is a completely different throw.
So you're saying that he may not have an arm for a 70' throw but he's got a gun for a 200' throw?
He's saying that a slide step side arm off balance is completely different than a curl hop wind up from the outfield. Which is correct...
Abreu cashed in for his mid-level Social Security benefits when he turned 62-1/2 a couple of months ago.Prosperdick said:I don't think Alex will fall off a cliff like Abreu did plus we know Alex's real age whereas Abreu was likely 2-3 years older so this contract wouldn't get him to age 38-39, which is what Abreu was.RC_57 said:
What always comes to my mind when thinking of a long term deal for Bregman is the Stros ending up with another Abreu situation.
That said, I still wish we would offer just a 4 year deal and give him the $30 million he wants.
n_touch said:This is absolutely laughable at this point. He is going from being the face of a franchise and having his number in the rafters with statues outside the stadium for years to come to being hated by the entire fanbase for 2 mill a year over 6 years.EastCoastAgNc said:Scott Boras is desperately trying to save face with this Bregman contract, and the Astros seem to know it. The market is well established - HOU, BOS, DET, TOR. Nobody is going to give him what he’s asking for based on reports.
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) January 28, 2025
So now it’s a waiting game. Maybe a superstar gets…
I am not sure what is going on here. You would think ego of having a lifetime of people look at you as a great would be well worth 12 million dollars when you will make over 200 million in your playing career.
Man it's never about this. It's always 100% about the money.
Hell Soto could've stayed a Yankee with a chance to go down in history and have his statue out in CF etc etc and he did what they all do...Took the money.
Us fans always think about legacy and all that but players don't. They want the biggest deal possible.
Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:Jesus, I forgot about the scoreboard. he's going to kill himself on the opening weekend crashing into that thing.EastCoastAgNc said:LF Jose Altuve #altuve #astros https://t.co/Xwg3goxthq pic.twitter.com/gNg2L1Wom0
— D-Texan (@dtexanz) January 27, 2025
We have seen Yordan knock out a scoreboard panel with his hand. I'm concerned Altuve's whole body might go through one of those openings.
I'm sure our infielders love the idea of a throwing target half the normal size.Mathguy64 said:He might be the shortest 1B ever in MLB.texasaggie2015 said:MosesHallRAB04 said:
I really don't get the Altuve to LF talk. Hes got a noodle arm. Between him and Meyers guys would take extra bases all the time.
What if I told you he's taken reps at first base recently lol
How many more errors we thinking if that happens? .33 for every game he plays at first?
n_touch said:This is absolutely laughable at this point. He is going from being the face of a franchise and having his number in the rafters with statues outside the stadium for years to come to being hated by the entire fanbase for 2 mill a year over 6 years.EastCoastAgNc said:Scott Boras is desperately trying to save face with this Bregman contract, and the Astros seem to know it. The market is well established - HOU, BOS, DET, TOR. Nobody is going to give him what he’s asking for based on reports.
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) January 28, 2025
So now it’s a waiting game. Maybe a superstar gets…
I am not sure what is going on here. You would think ego of having a lifetime of people look at you as a great would be well worth 12 million dollars when you will make over 200 million in your playing career.
I think all would be forgiven if he ended up staying in Houston no matter what.
Rangers creating own sports network
I have a hard feeling they're going to make much here. They already sell their streaming rights elsewhere. Now they're going it alone for a network.
I have a hard feeling they're going to make much here. They already sell their streaming rights elsewhere. Now they're going it alone for a network.
Maybe altuve knows Bregman isn't coming back and this is just psychological warfare to make bregman look like a dick.
Tucker is laughing at Bregman right now for signing that contract in 2019.
Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:Jesus, I forgot about the scoreboard. he's going to kill himself on the opening weekend crashing into that thing.EastCoastAgNc said:LF Jose Altuve #altuve #astros https://t.co/Xwg3goxthq pic.twitter.com/gNg2L1Wom0
— D-Texan (@dtexanz) January 27, 2025
This is a great conversation on Bregman in that the ONLY reason there is a hold up is because this is a legacy player! Anyone else they wash their hands and move on! Polanco is the only name they seem to be publicly pursuing @LockedOnAstros
— Htown Wheelhouse™️2X World Series Champs '17, '22 (@HtownWheelhouse) January 28, 2025
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The old saying, "a dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow" applies here. It's the time value of money issue. With the current economical outlook of inflation, the purchasing power of today's dollar will be less than even 6 years.wangus12 said:That's a dumb take unless he's trying to buy something right at this moment worth millions upon millions of dollars. That cash is never worthless regardless of when it comes becomes its at that level where it'd would actually take a stupid amount of effort to spend it.EastCoastAgNc said:This is literally opposite of what Bregman wants.
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) January 28, 2025
Deferrals only help players in high state income tax areas. It'd be worthless for him and wouldn't benefit the Astros https://t.co/7N5coQYkry
Think of it like this - you have the opportunity to have $100K today or $70K today and then $30K in 10 years. You plan to buy a house in 10 years. If you take the $100K and invest it today at 5%, in 10 years you'd have ~$163K. If you took the $70K and invested it that same day at 5% for 10 years and then get the $30K at the end of the 10th year, you'd have ~$144K. That's an ~$19K difference. That would go a long way towards the house you're going to buy in 10 years!
Alex is operating in a completely different stratosphere than 99% of people. When dealing with millions, the $19K difference from above becomes millions of dollars lost if he doesn't take the money today. Forget the tax implications. We don't know his future plans. The dude is big into horse racing - maybe he has plans for that after retirement. Maybe he wants to eventually try to be an owner in a team later in life. I don't know, but while the cash at a later date is never worthless, it certainly is worth less.
EastCoastAgNc said:Scott Boras is desperately trying to save face with this Bregman contract, and the Astros seem to know it. The market is well established - HOU, BOS, DET, TOR. Nobody is going to give him what he’s asking for based on reports.
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) January 28, 2025
So now it’s a waiting game. Maybe a superstar gets…
I feel like i'm worth 250k a year...... unfortunately , no one in the job market agrees with me.
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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On state of bullpen, Dana Brown said: "We have some young guys we believe can step it up. We have guys like Ort, King and Scott. You have Abreu that can take over the eighth innning... Of course, you have Hader on the back end. We still feel strongly about our bullpen."
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) January 28, 2025
this. he may not be able to play OF. but it has nothing to do with the throwing struggles he has had from 2B.Silent For Too Long said:
Yes I get all that, but has anyone actually seen him throw from the OF?
Throwing from 2nd to 1rst is a completely different throw.
He's made a little over $100 million already in his career and that doesn't include whatever he's getting through marketing and licensing deals with his products.n_touch said:This is absolutely laughable at this point. He is going from being the face of a franchise and having his number in the rafters with statues outside the stadium for years to come to being hated by the entire fanbase for 2 mill a year over 6 years.EastCoastAgNc said:Scott Boras is desperately trying to save face with this Bregman contract, and the Astros seem to know it. The market is well established - HOU, BOS, DET, TOR. Nobody is going to give him what he’s asking for based on reports.
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) January 28, 2025
So now it’s a waiting game. Maybe a superstar gets…
I am not sure what is going on here. You would think ego of having a lifetime of people look at you as a great would be well worth 12 million dollars when you will make over 200 million in your playing career.
He will end up earning well over a quarter of a billion dollars and he's going to piss away his goodwill with the fans who supported him through the scandal, basically give up his salsa deal as nobody will buy it, and ruin his legacy all over a sum of money which would account for less than 5% of his career earnings.
The term galactically stupid comes to mind.
Well, he did go to LSU..Prosperdick said:He's made a little over $100 million already in his career and that doesn't include whatever he's getting through marketing and licensing deals with his products.n_touch said:This is absolutely laughable at this point. He is going from being the face of a franchise and having his number in the rafters with statues outside the stadium for years to come to being hated by the entire fanbase for 2 mill a year over 6 years.EastCoastAgNc said:Scott Boras is desperately trying to save face with this Bregman contract, and the Astros seem to know it. The market is well established - HOU, BOS, DET, TOR. Nobody is going to give him what he’s asking for based on reports.
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) January 28, 2025
So now it’s a waiting game. Maybe a superstar gets…
I am not sure what is going on here. You would think ego of having a lifetime of people look at you as a great would be well worth 12 million dollars when you will make over 200 million in your playing career.
He will end up earning well over a quarter of a billion dollars and he's going to piss away his goodwill with the fans who supported him through the scandal, basically give up his salsa deal as nobody will buy it, and ruin his legacy all over a sum of money which would account for less than 5% of his career earnings.
The term galactically stupid comes to mind.
Prosperdick said:He's made a little over $100 million already in his career and that doesn't include whatever he's getting through marketing and licensing deals with his products.n_touch said:This is absolutely laughable at this point. He is going from being the face of a franchise and having his number in the rafters with statues outside the stadium for years to come to being hated by the entire fanbase for 2 mill a year over 6 years.EastCoastAgNc said:Scott Boras is desperately trying to save face with this Bregman contract, and the Astros seem to know it. The market is well established - HOU, BOS, DET, TOR. Nobody is going to give him what he’s asking for based on reports.
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) January 28, 2025
So now it’s a waiting game. Maybe a superstar gets…
I am not sure what is going on here. You would think ego of having a lifetime of people look at you as a great would be well worth 12 million dollars when you will make over 200 million in your playing career.
He will end up earning well over a quarter of a billion dollars and he's going to piss away his goodwill with the fans who supported him through the scandal, basically give up his salsa deal as nobody will buy it, and ruin his legacy all over a sum of money which would account for less than 5% of his career earnings.
The term galactically stupid comes to mind.
I feel like you typed out verbatim what I have been saying the last few weeks
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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