Buzz won't make it to 26/27

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The way this is going for Maryland, I don't think Buzz gets a year 2. He brought enough of his guys to at least win a few games.

I think Maryland looks at Aggie success this year, and cuts ties with Buzz. Would not surprise me if they went after Bucky. Seems like we are their feeder school. At this point, I'm not really sure why it's such a desirable job. It's not like they are in ACC anymore and their resume is mediocre in the same timeline as BCG Aggie Basketball.

Big 10 basketball is decent, but let's be honest, is it really that much better than SEC bball?
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Wrong forum,
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ahou614 said:

The way this is going for Maryland, I don't think Buzz gets a year 2. He brought enough of his guys to at least win a few games.

I think Maryland looks at Aggie success this year, and cuts ties with Buzz. Would not surprise me if they went after Bucky. Seems like we are their feeder school. At this point, I'm not really sure why it's such a desirable job. It's not like they are in ACC anymore and their resume is mediocre in the same timeline as BCG Aggie Basketball.

Big 10 basketball is decent, but let's be honest, is it really that much better than SEC bball?


Right now? Big 10 is much better than SEC, 5 of the top 11 are big 10 schools. Michigan, Purdue, Nebraska, Michigan state and Illinois is at #11
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Buzz Williams signed a 6-year deal (running through April 2031) worth approximately $30.3 million, with an initial salary of $4.8 million.
No University Buyout: The contract with Maryland does not have a buyout clause for the school, meaning they owe him the full remaining value if he is fired for performance.
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I think Big 10 is better than the sec overall. Not to say the sec is bad but they currently have six teams ranked in the top 11.

Maryland hired Buzz without an AD. He was the biggest name and supposedly "safest" hire at the time.

But I agree with you. Another season like this one or anything near it and the new AD will fire him
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Ag1188 said:

Quote:

Buzz Williams signed a 6-year deal (running through April 2031) worth approximately $30.3 million, with an initial salary of $4.8 million.
No University Buyout: The contract with Maryland does not have a buyout clause for the school, meaning they owe him the full remaining value if he is fired for performance.



Oh well then maybe he gets at least four years just from this one.lol

Looks like they used Scott Woodward's playbook for contract negotiations.
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The Big Ten has two teams worse than Maryland in it. Together they make up a total of 3 that are worse than the SEC's worst team, Mississippi State.
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No chance buzz gets canned before year two…NONE. They're not UK or Duke or UNC. They have the 3rd ranked recruiting class according to some services. He'll be fine
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Maryland's glory days are long gone, and no one is bringing them back. With that said, they won't be taking anything with a 778 zip code for the rest of time.
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I find it hard to believe Maryland will try to steal an a&m coach again the next 20 years.
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They have the #3 recruiting class incoming and Payne will likely be back after a medical redshirt. He's getting next year

If they stink next year the yeah he may not get a year 3

There is 0% chance he doesn't get next year though, barring scandal
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St Hedwig Aggie said:

No chance buzz gets canned before year two…NONE. They're not UK or Duke or UNC. They have the 3rd ranked recruiting class according to some services. He'll be fine


Correct, they will not fire him this year.
But he will not be fine. Being this bad most of his good recruits will end up going to other schools. He will have to find portal players to even become decent.
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AggieCrew44 said:

They have the #3 recruiting class incoming and Payne will likely be back after a medical redshirt. He's getting next year

If they stink next year the yeah he may not get a year 3

There is 0% chance he doesn't get next year though, barring scandal



I think we have as much chance of getting Payne next year as Maryland does.
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Maryland doesn't have the $ to fire the Carpetbagger after year one…….but I can guarantee you he isn't getting charter buses just to take him to the airport!!!!
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ColoradoMooseHerd said:

ahou614 said:

The way this is going for Maryland, I don't think Buzz gets a year 2. He brought enough of his guys to at least win a few games.

I think Maryland looks at Aggie success this year, and cuts ties with Buzz. Would not surprise me if they went after Bucky. Seems like we are their feeder school. At this point, I'm not really sure why it's such a desirable job. It's not like they are in ACC anymore and their resume is mediocre in the same timeline as BCG Aggie Basketball.

Big 10 basketball is decent, but let's be honest, is it really that much better than SEC bball?


Right now? Big 10 is much better than SEC, 5 of the top 11 are big 10 schools. Michigan, Purdue, Nebraska, Michigan state and Illinois is at #11

Kenpom disagrees.


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I'm…trying……..to……….care……

Not worth it.
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Mikeyshooter said:

ColoradoMooseHerd said:

ahou614 said:

The way this is going for Maryland, I don't think Buzz gets a year 2. He brought enough of his guys to at least win a few games.

I think Maryland looks at Aggie success this year, and cuts ties with Buzz. Would not surprise me if they went after Bucky. Seems like we are their feeder school. At this point, I'm not really sure why it's such a desirable job. It's not like they are in ACC anymore and their resume is mediocre in the same timeline as BCG Aggie Basketball.

Big 10 basketball is decent, but let's be honest, is it really that much better than SEC bball?


Right now? Big 10 is much better than SEC, 5 of the top 11 are big 10 schools. Michigan, Purdue, Nebraska, Michigan state and Illinois is at #11

Kenpom disagrees.

Kenpom has 5 Big 10 teams in the top 12
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Kenpom has 3 Big Ten teams outside the top 100
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There seems to a growing disconnect between the Maryland fan base and the Basketball program.

Not because of the losing, but because it's largely the Buzz Williamses' rather than the Maryland Terrapins. Not to mention, the entire roster is made up of 'paid for hire', one year rentals/mercenaries.

The latter isn't Buzz's or the players fault. It's the current college athletics NIL/Transfer Portal "pay for play" world we find ourselves living in.

But, I get the sense that alums, supporters and fans are becoming increasingly detached from the "Buzz Williams' traveling circus" persona that seems to be the program's new identity.

Frankly, Buzz + staff haven't done a very good job of assimilating into the culture or embracing the history of Maryland Basketball. It's "Buzz Ball" on the front of the uniform instead of Maryland.

That's fine if you winning. But, what is the connection we are supposed to embrace + defend, angst over, if you are losing? Where's the Maryland Pride?

We know you care about the team and your guys and your culture, but you'd be wise to start caring a little more about us and what Maryland Basketball has built and stands for.

I'd suggest dropping the preaching/sermons, analytical drivel and ego down a notch or two in the future, before you've lost Terp Nation, completely.

Rant Over.
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What's funny is I thought he'd successfully gotten them to not care about this season but now they're so bad they're pissed again. They like crossed some new barrier I didn't know existed.
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KenPom is showing that the SEC is more balanced not that it is a stronger conference. I guess we can disagree on this, but when you have 5 teams ranked higher than any of the SEC teams, I think it is a stronger conference, even if it worst five teams are worse than the SEC's worse five teams. Right now, no one is fearing any of the SEC teams in the NCAA tournament
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What KenPom is showing is that a team would be expected to have a better conference record if it played in the Big Ten than it would if it played in the SEC
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rab79 said:

Wrong forum,

Can't talk about a guy who was Texas A&M's head basketball coach for six years on a Texas A&M basketball board? Ok, bro.
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im enjoying his failure so much that i should probably go back to church.
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I will admit to also lurking on the MD basketball fan sites. One factor I hadn't considered is the success their former coach, Kevin Willard, is having at Villanova (15-5 and took UConn to overtime Saturday). Sort of the reverse of us getting enjoyment from Buzz's problems at MD. Rubbing salt in the wounds.
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BubblesMcGee said:

I will admit to also lurking on the MD basketball fan sites. One factor I hadn't considered is the success their former coach, Kevin Willard, is having at Villanova (15-5 and took UConn to overtime Saturday). Sort of the reverse of us getting enjoyment from Buzz's problems at MD. Rubbing salt in the wounds.


They see what's happening here too.
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I was glad to see the back of Buzz, but why pick on him so much? His program started really slowly here too, but when he got it cranking the teams did pretty well. His style of play is painful to watch and doesn't translate to wins in the tournament, but Maryland HAD to have known that when they hired him.
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Odd fella…but he's marylands problem now…
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northeastag said:

I was glad to see the back of Buzz, but why pick on him so much? His program started really slowly here too, but when he got it cranking the teams did pretty well. His style of play is painful to watch and doesn't translate to wins in the tournament, but Maryland HAD to have known that when they hired him.


He's getting picked on because he left us with no roster s d took with him whatever players still had eligibility, and this was the way he planned it all along;

To culminate with a senior laden team s d then bolt knowing he'd get fired after the following season had he stayed here

Also, he's getting picked on because Aggies finally saw that buzz is just all about buzz
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People are really confident we'd have fired Buzz after this season? That seems incredibly unlikely to me.
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To me what Buzz was after was the best financial situation he could get and that wasn't at A& M with our unwillingness to give a long term guaranteed extension. He got a good deal at Maryland and he gets paid whether his team sucks and he gets fired or not unless they can drum up some sort of "fired for cause" case. Maryland is in a bad spot with some similarities to us with Jimbo.
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Maryland fans...
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Atleast they don't have to worry about the incentives….
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