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Aggie Infantry
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Odd how the other office workers just watched the guy get dragged out by his tie and did nothing.

Jack Thauer
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They said it was definitely due to gambling. They likely knew this and knew not to try to stop it.
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Was there any significance to the passage out of Exodus at the end?


I think Billy bob is about to administer the plagues of Egypt on the Supermarket King, starting with blood in the water.

I love this show, I died laughing at everything in the last episode. The co-workers of the "gambler" were hilarious the two ladies tell the rumors they have heard about him and then chastise the guy for "spreading rumors." The only problem with the last episode was not enough BBT.
PooDoo
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Wonder if BBT is using the plague stuff to turn The King on his old body guard?
Bobcat06
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The King did say he was Greek Orthodox. Was he really Jewish?
LHIOB
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Lets talk this thru. How many people know youre at the pet store?
AgPediRPh
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Good lawd, that ending was awesome!
Another Doug
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Nice tie into the movie. The king finding the money Steve Buscemi's character left in the snow.
OldArmy71
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I love this show, even though the plot holes are starting to mount up.

How did Malvo get away with impersonating that minister? Who did the cops talk to? Didn't they ask what he looked like?

No one, including the astute and observant Molly, has noticed Lester's festering wound?

Great episode.
Bunk Moreland
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How did Malvo get away with impersonating that minister? Who did the cops talk to? Didn't they ask what he looked like?


his fake ID he picked up at the bingo hall in the area(the bingo hall he used as an alibi since he saw who won and learned names of folks there) had him as a minister. I assume the cops asked if there was bingo there that night, who won, etc. They are small town guys so they probably didn't push it further, considering they are both of the opinion that he isn't the guy and the cop is just bringing anyone in to save himself.

So that all matched up. That's his "cover" in the area.

[This message has been edited by Bunk Moreland (edited 5/7/2014 9:26a).]
Joan Wilder
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That both supervising cops are completely obtuse about the case is starting to pass implausibility. Maybe they aren't sure about Malvo being the guy for the Bmidji cases, but Molly had the guy on a surveillance video for the Naked Guy's murder. Put him in a line-up for the office workers who witnessed him being dragged out. Odenkirk's character also wouldn't have that lack of urgency for a case that would make him a name, particularly when a fellow cop was murdered.

I'm not sure Molly has seen Lester's festering wound, but it's coming.

Loved the 2 guys getting in a bar fight to end up in jail with Lester.
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I'm starting to suspect the chief is somehow in on this. He can't really be this stupid. Maybe he was involved so the old chief would get killed and he would take over? Maybe he knew that Molly was the preferred choice to be next chief, even though he has seniority?

Also, Malvo made a phone call right before he got arrested that probably set in motion the cover-up as the minister. That along with the fake ID he picked up allowed him to get away with this story.
Bunk Moreland
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the cover up with the minister was from when he showed up to pick up the box at the mailing station a few episodes ago. How are some not fully picking up on that?

He may very well have called someone to tip them off something before getting arrested, but he already had the backstory of being a minister ready to go if he got himself in trouble.

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george07
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Yeah, the call was to "activate" the cover-up so to speak.
Bunk Moreland
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That or just to let his boss know that he is going to be arrested and out of commission for a few hours.
OldArmy71
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the cover up with the minister was from when he showed up to pick up the box at the mailing station a few episodes ago.


I had forgotten about that. Thanks!
OldArmy71
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A couple of other things Molly has slipped up on that seem out of character given her suspicion:

When talking to Lester in the drugstore, she ignores the fact that he leaves hurriedly with the pharmacist yelling at him that he forgot his unguent. You would think that would make her talk to the pharmacist.

She also never checked into his story that his car was in the shop. As her suspicions mounted, that would seem to be an easy one to check out.
Jacques
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That both supervising cops are completely obtuse about the case is starting to pass implausibility. Maybe they aren't sure about Malvo being the guy for the Bmidji cases, but Molly had the guy on a surveillance video for the Naked Guy's murder. Put him in a line-up for the office workers who witnessed him being dragged out. Odenkirk's character also wouldn't have that lack of urgency for a case that would make him a name, particularly when a fellow cop was murdered.

I'm not sure Molly has seen Lester's festering wound, but it's coming.

Loved the 2 guys getting in a bar fight to end up in jail with Lester.


There are some issues developing. One review I saw mentioned that people are behaving in a way they have to behave to advance the plot.

It's still fun to watch.
Joan Wilder
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She knows "my car was in the shop" is a lie - the car is in the police impound lot. She was taken off the case and Bob Odenkirk is apparently not following that lead. Even if he thinks Lester is innocent, wouldn't you track down the victim's stolen car in hopes it might lead you to a suspect?

I am enjoying it, but the sketchy police work is taking me out of the show.
Jacques
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Letting Malvo go was really questionable. The issue was whether he was the guy he claimed to be. Hard to believe they let him go without someone positively id'ing him as the minister.

That said, for now it's fun in a frustrating sort of way.
Ol Jock 99
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What did they have to hold him on? Suspicion? He looks like a guy that Deputy Dog-Catcher pulled over once? They had nothing. No probable cause. No evidence of any sort.They were already risking a false imprisonment lawsuit as it stands.
Joan Wilder
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And they're questioning him on the Bmidji murders not the naked guy murder. They have physical evidence and fingerprints at that office, as well as the video. Cops wouldn't let him go without checking the fingerprints or putting him in the lineup. Anyway....
Jacques
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What did they have to hold him on? Suspicion? He looks like a guy that Deputy Dog-Catcher pulled over once? They had nothing. No probable cause. No evidence of any sort.They were already risking a false imprisonment lawsuit as it stands.


Their officer positively id'd him as a man in a stolen car and he looked like the man in the picture. That's evidence. When the issue is id you can't just let a suspect go without checking that. They did nothing to confirm he was who he claimed to be.
Jacques
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And they're questioning him on the Bmidji murders not the naked guy murder. They have physical evidence and fingerprints at that office, as well as the video. Cops wouldn't let him go without checking the fingerprints or putting him in the lineup. Anyway....


Exactly. That part was way too weak. What was the point of fingerprinting him if you're not going to run the prints?
Ol Jock 99
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They did nothing to confirm he was who he claimed to be.


The 2 chiefs were on the phone and said "well, his story checks out". It is obvious that the Duluth chief has ZERO respect for Deputy Dog-Catcher too.
Bunk Moreland
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Exactly. That part was way too weak. What was the point of fingerprinting him if you're not going to run the prints?


so they can go back and run the prints in a later episode and find out again that they had him but he walked away.
Bunk Moreland
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And I agree there have been some convenient moments. It is by no means perfect. But I'm having a decent enough time with it.

More than anything it's just showing how incompetent the people are up there. Almost like life moves so slow for 99% of the time up there, that when **** goes down, they act incompetently because they aren't used to it. And the local big wigs also trust themselves so much and are entrenched enough in their departments/community that they don't get any push back.

It's not terribly unbelievable of small towns. It's just happening often and at convenient times to move the plot forward.
Jacques
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They did nothing to confirm he was who he claimed to be.


The 2 chiefs were on the phone and said "well, his story checks out". It is obvious that the Duluth chief has ZERO respect for Deputy Dog-Catcher too.


His story was that the man he claimed to be had an alibi. The cop says he's not who he claims to be. That his story checks out is silly. It can't check out. No one positively id'd him as who he claimed to be. You have his prints. Run them. You know he's the minister of the church. Call the police chief there--not just someone the suspect has told you to call--and have him send someone down to id him.
Jacques
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And I agree there have been some convenient moments. It is by no means perfect. But I'm having a decent enough time with it.

More than anything it's just showing how incompetent the people are up there. Almost like life moves so slow for 99% of the time up there, that when **** goes down, they act incompetently because they aren't used to it. And the local big wigs also trust themselves so much and are entrenched enough in their departments/community that they don't get any push back.

It's not terribly unbelievable of small towns. It's just happening often and at convenient times to move the plot forward.


It does make more sense when you see that thread on politics about the dead guy whose home the police keep searching on arrest warrants for him.
george07
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She knows "my car was in the shop" is a lie - the car is in the police impound lot. She was taken off the case and Bob Odenkirk is apparently not following that lead. Even if he thinks Lester is innocent, wouldn't you track down the victim's stolen car in hopes it might lead you to a suspect?

I am enjoying it, but the sketchy police work is taking me out of the show.



Like I said earlier in this thread, all of this is really making me think that the chief is in on it. He simply cannot be this dumb. Maybe the Duluth chief is also in on it, or just let his dislike for Tom Hank's son cloud his judgement.
Jacques
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Hank's chief at least can fall back on Hanks being a boob that let a guy drive away in a stolen car. He clearly has disdain for his police work. But then, his own is pretty shoddy.
Jacques
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Hank's chief at least can fall back on Hanks being a boob that let a guy drive away in a stolen car. He clearly has disdain for his police work. But then, his own is pretty shoddy.
Joan Wilder
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And we know the Duluth chief was involved in some precious foul up in Sioux Falls, per Molly's cop dad.

That Odenkirk wouldn't be following up on the car lead alone (just to track down another suspect) is implausible. Small town cops are bad and play politics but even he would want to catch a cop-killer.

But anyway...
Jacques
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They did do a decent job of setting up his disinterest. The prior chief didn't like him.
OldArmy71
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She knows "my car was in the shop" is a lie


She finds that out by complete chance when Gus Grimley tells her about the car he stopped. My question is, if you suspect Lester, then why not do a little digging into his story about what happened the night of the shooting?

As most of you have said, it doesn't stop me from enjoying what's going on.
 
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