My biggest gripe with the movie was how in a world where food is scarce, everyone is driven to farming, you have to repair your own tires because they are not in abundance, and there are no MRI machines anymore because the world doesn't need engineers, does the entire population have perfectly white straight teeth, and the women can wear makeup?

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Boom. Done. Doesn't hurt pacing, and you don't have an astronaut explaining to his crewmate what's about to happen on this mission they signed up for over 2 years ago.

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I was under the impression that, first, Cooper was flying an experimental version of the landing craft when he had that crash at the beginning, which means that he already had flight time in the vehicle itself. That would have cut the training time, when time was of the essence. Also, in the rush to get the mission going, they might have overlooked some details that seemed obvious in retrospect. Thinking "you'll be flying to a portal" might not, initially, lead to thoughts of "what, specifically, does it look like and why" until you are actually able to see it and focus specifically on that. Cooper's main points for being on the mission were his skills as pilot and his leadership, not necessarily his knowledge of the physics involved.

Interstellar: 15 Huge Differences From the Steven Spielberg-Developed Script to Christopher Nolan's Movie

I saw it with my wife and 9 year old daughter. There were a few scenes that I made her come and sit on my lap. You all know what they were.

That movie was darn depressing for the first 85 percent of it. And it was still rather sad when he saw Murph again knowing that he'd missed her entire life

I didn't recall seeing Tom (his son). Did he pass away? Leave any grandchildren? I don't remember.

Also, I really liked the character TARS.

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Great article.

Great article.

It is important to note that this article has the first draft of the Spielberg developed copy, and it compares it with the final Chris Nolan copy. Obviously the Spielberg copy would have changed a lot throughout the process.

That being said, I'm very glad this ended up in Nolan's hands. I cringed when reading about some of that stuff that the original script was going with.

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I cringed when reading about some of that stuff that the original script was going with.

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Me too. Especially the part about the Chinese beating us to interstellar travel. Total bull****

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I'm glad I'm not the only person that had difficulty understanding the dialogue. I had the same issues with Bane in TDKR

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I found myself cupping my ears during certain parts because the dialog was drowned out by the side noise of either the music or effects.

Also, MM has an annoying, mumbling, delivery at times. When he opens his mouth and speaks, I can understand him. When he does his low "whisperlike" grunting, I have a hard time understanding what the hell he is saying. For True Detectives, I could put on the subtitles. Can't do that here.

So what's the speculation on what BLIGHT actually was? Worldwide plant-life disease?

Yeah I thought of it as basically a superbug for plants that mutated and evolved over time to cover more crops. In addition it consumes O2 and since it was winning eventually it would drop the O2 on the earth resulting in world-wide extinction events.

Climate change leading to all sorts of pestilence (man and agricultural) followed by dust bowl like scenarios on a global scale.

Kind of like the movie The Road: most assume it's nuclear war but since they don't delve too much on the why it's not really that important other than the fact that we're ***ked so the simplest reasoning should be the most likely culprit.

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Yeah I thought of it as basically a superbug for plants that mutated and evolved over time to cover more crops. In addition it consumes O2 and since it was winning eventually it would drop the O2 on the earth resulting in world-wide extinction events.

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It consumed nitrogen, which made it almost impossible to eradicate because the atmosphere is mostly nitrogen. The lack of O2 was a side effect from the blight killing so many plants, which drastically reduced the amount of O2 put back into the air.

We placed the wormhole there, but for us to get that far as a species to develop that technology we had already have had to make it successfully off the planet or to get that black hole data that the robot got.

So we had already made it without making it.

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Yeah I thought of it as basically a superbug for plants that mutated and evolved over time to cover more crops. In addition it consumes O2 and since it was winning eventually it would drop the O2 on the earth resulting in world-wide extinction events.

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It consumed nitrogen, which made it almost impossible to eradicate because the atmosphere is mostly nitrogen. The lack of O2 was a side effect from the blight killing so many plants, which drastically reduced the amount of O2 put back into the air.

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Yup that sounds right! Thanks!

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We placed the wormhole there, but for us to get that far as a species to develop that technology we had already have had to make it successfully off the planet or to get that black hole data that the robot got.

So we had already made it without making it.

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If we already made it without making it, we would not need to make it.
This is a quantum mechanical trick where the end defines the means. There are quantum mechanical events that take place all the time. The many-universe theory says that each of these triggers parallel universes for each of the outcomes.

So the only universes that contain human life beyond the point at which we should have gone extinct are those that have outlandish occurrences such as our 5th dimensional descendants rescuing ourselves with a wormhole.

It's like - why are physical parameters so perfectly tuned to allow life such as ours in the universe? These physical parameters could take on any value. According to quantum mechanics they are undefined until observed. Then the wave function collapses and it takes on a specific value. So who observed it? Maybe it was us? It could have been astronomers and physicists who made observations that retroactively collapsed the wave function for those parameters (QM really allows for this). If it requires an observation to take on a specific value, then by definition, the values the parameters take on must allow for life.

Only a $47M opening weekend. For comparison, Inception opened to $62M. Pretty disappointing for such a great film, especially a Nolan flick.

I think the marketing campaign was very lacking for this one, and I think that's probably the biggest reason for the lackluster opening.

I don't think it will be successful on a >$100 mil scale because it deals with topics that are very complex and most of the USA population does not like to think about the confusing and mind blowing aspects of interstellar travel and relativity.

Ok, read the script posted in the OP.

I'm glad they re-wrote it..... although a couple of the scenes would have been fun. Has there ever been a zero-gravity sex scene in a movie? I can't imagine how hard that would be to film.

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Only a $47M opening weekend. For comparison, Inception opened to $62M. Pretty disappointing for such a great film, especially a Nolan flick.

I think the marketing campaign was very lacking for this one, and I think that's probably the biggest reason for the lackluster opening.

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The long run time had a big impact on the numbers. Less screenings = less $$

...Though $47 mil is way lower than I would've expected a Christopher Nolan film's opening weekend. Strong competition from a Disney/Marvel family movie plus a mixed bag from reviewers didn't help, either. I think marketing is the least of the issues that led to the disappointing box office this last weekend.

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I don't think it will be successful on a >$100 mil scale because it deals with topics that are very complex and most of the USA population does not like to think about the confusing and mind blowing aspects of interstellar travel and relativity.

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2001 also received mixed reactions. Neither 2001 nor this film were dumbed down for the American audience.

Haven't seen, spoilers don't bother me for some reason. A lot that have seen it and posted about it, y'all seem very smart. For someone that is more "street smart" will I get most of the scientific, dimensional themes. I think I'll get the FF all you need is love, and the father, daughter relationship. But is the space, engineering too much for someone that has a B of Arts?

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Haven't seen, spoilers don't bother me for some reason. A lot that have seen it and posted about it, y'all seem very smart. For someone that is more "street smart" will I get most of the scientific, dimensional themes. I think I'll get the FF all you need is love, and the father, daughter relationship. But is the space, engineering too much for someone that has a B of Arts?

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I'm a simpleton and I got it (and loved it). It's not so complex a normal person can't keep up. Go see it. In IMAX, if it's available.

Yeah. It's an attention span challenger. If you go with people who can't keep up or lose focus, they will struggle.

Thought the film was beautiful. I'll second TCTTS in saying the scene of MM reviewing the video dispatches from his son and daughter spanning 20+ years of absence was one of the most devastatingly poignant moments I've ever seen in a film.

Feel like I really did myself a disservice not seeing it on IMAX, so I might have to go back and do so. God bless Nolan for making films of such large scale and complex content that are delivered and still accessible to many on a mass scale.

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We placed the wormhole there, but for us to get that far as a species to develop that technology we had already have had to make it successfully off the planet or to get that black hole data that the robot got.

So we had already made it without making it.

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If we already made it without making it, we would not need to make it.
This is a quantum mechanical trick where the end defines the means. There are quantum mechanical events that take place all the time. The many-universe theory says that each of these triggers parallel universes for each of the outcomes.

So the only universes that contain human life beyond the point at which we should have gone extinct are those that have outlandish occurrences such as our 5th dimensional descendants rescuing ourselves with a wormhole.

It's like - why are physical parameters so perfectly tuned to allow life such as ours in the universe? These physical parameters could take on any value. According to quantum mechanics they are undefined until observed. Then the wave function collapses and it takes on a specific value. So who observed it? Maybe it was us? It could have been astronomers and physicists who made observations that retroactively collapsed the wave function for those parameters (QM really allows for this). If it requires an observation to take on a specific value, then by definition, the values the parameters take on must allow for life.

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You a wizard?

He sent the coordinates to NASA back to himself right? He had to have already known about NASA to find it in the first place to go on the mission to reach the black hole to send himself back the message in the first place without himself knowing where it was at first.

U wot m8

Has there ever been a zero-gravity sex scene?

Why yes, there has, kind of. Check the last scene of Moonraker with Bond doing Goodhead.

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You a wizard?

He sent the coordinates to NASA back to himself right? He had to have already known about NASA to find it in the first place to go on the mission to reach the black hole to send himself back the message in the first place without himself knowing where it was at first.

U wot m8

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Yes, I am a wizard.

What you bring up is a paradox. It's the reason that time travel or even communication into the past is not possible. If it's possible at all, it would be into the past of another universe to prevent violations of causality.

For a simpler example, in The Terminator, where did John Connor get his name? Let me know when you've got that one figured out.

Ithought the first 85% was great. Stunning visuals, some good dialog and explanations,
and well developed characters. There were some gaps in the movie where I think
they could have used more explanation on what was going on and provide some
backstory. I realize that would have made for a longer movie but certain parts
just felt rushed and others dragged out.

I thought the ice planet with Mann was predictable. He was going to turn on
them and the robot was going to blow up. I know what they were going for but I
think they missed on it. It also wasn't really explained well about Mann trying
to dock and opening up the airlock. It seemed more like they wrote themselves
into a corner and just had a bunch of crazy stuff happen to get them out.

I thought the last 15% of the movie just jumped the shark. I absolutely hated
it. I would have liked to see the gravity inside the black hole slowly crushing
the ship, TARS relaying the data to Cooper, who then is able to relay it back
out before being pulled past the event horizon where he and the ship are
crushed by gravity. They could have then cut to Murph solving the equation with
the data and gone on from there. As soon as he ejected inside a blackhole and
ended up traveling in time in the 3rd dimension of Murphs room was just dumb. i
get what they were trying to do i just think they did a horrible job at it and
it came off as cheesy.

For such a long movie it seemed poorly put together with no real flow. Much
like with Ender's Game where they skipped major parts to try and progress the
story but it just ends up falling flat.

There are lots of other things that bothered me like not accounting for the
data lag on the water planet due to Gargantuan. If they are smart enough to
know that one hour down there is 7 years they should be smart enough to know
that the data is also delayed and that in reality they are landing shortly
after Miller landed.

I'd recommend waiting until it comes out on Redbox to watch.

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It also wasn't really explained well about Mann trying
to dock and opening up the airlock. It seemed more like they wrote themselves
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What wasn't explained well? It was implied that Mann wasn't trained to manually dock, the robot mentioned he disabled auto-docking when they were chasing Mann, when he finally docked they showed the ship not engaging on the airlock properly multiple times (after multiple shots of properly docking earlier in the movie), there were alarms going off saying he was not docked properly, they showed him manually overriding the system, twice, so that he could open the airlock, Cooper was screaming the entire time not to open the airlock because it would depressurize. He opened the airlock and it depressurized. Not sure how you could dumb it down any more or explain it any better...

I think what he's getting at is why did depressurize = explosion?

I'm more confused about Mann's overall plan. Was he trying to get back to Earth , or trying to get to Edmund's planet? I'm assuming Earth, but then he said something about completing the mission.

Yeah I think when he found out Cooper was planning on going back and had the fuel to do so, he realized it's his ticket home.

He just wanted to be around people again, and knew that if he just rode along with Cooper, he'd go back a coward, so he had to make the move to go back alone, and also be a hero.

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I'm more confused about Mann's overall plan. Was he trying to get back to Earth , or trying to get to Edmund's planet? I'm assuming Earth, but then he said something about completing the mission.

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Dr Mann was surprised that they didn't have the resources to check all the planets. He was assuming he could get rescued from his planet and help continue the mission on another planet.