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YouBet said:

That Nirvana cover was pretty awesome.
agreed
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Sex Panther said:

Loved it thought it was super entertaining and funny with great action and fight scenes


I was also glad to see that the Red Room program in Russia had such strong diversity protocols in place
Diversity is strength.

Just not strong enough to keep your floating terror city in the air.


Maybe if they actually hired some men.
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Cromagnum said:

YouBet said:

Sex Panther said:

Loved it thought it was super entertaining and funny with great action and fight scenes


I was also glad to see that the Red Room program in Russia had such strong diversity protocols in place
Diversity is strength.

Just not strong enough to keep your floating terror city in the air.


Maybe if they actually hired some men.
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Florence Pugh is nice.
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i liked the movie a lot...just a couple of quick thoughts:

1. Pugh is an absolute tour de force. i hope they have bigger plans for her character because it is going to be very tough to make Yelena a secondary/supporting type character.

2. Harbour was great. marvel continues to nail its casting choices.

3. i was disappointed in the way they used Taskmaster. the comics version is way cooler and given the MCU's past "villain problem", i think they missed out on this one.
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jackie childs said:

i liked the movie a lot...just a couple of quick thoughts:

1. Pugh is an absolute tour de force. i hope they have bigger plans for her character because it is going to be very tough to make Yelena a secondary/supporting type character.

2. Harbour was great. marvel continues to nail its casting choices.

3. i was disappointed in the way they used Taskmaster. the comics version is way cooler and given the MCU's past "villain problem", i think they missed out on this one.


Agree with all of this. Never seen Pugh before and I liked her. Interestingly, she sounded exactly like Wanda when Olsen still had the accent.

I'm not familiar with taskmaster other than a quick wiki lookup. Fascinating character so it does feel like they missed an opportunity here. The whole time I'm watching I'm thinking "Damn this version of Cobra Commander looks cool."
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YouBet said:

That Nirvana cover was pretty awesome.


I thought the movie was awesome, but that part pretty lame.
Haven't seen the movie, but just listened to the cover and found it a great big bag of meh. Maybe it's better in the context of the film.
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Movie was decent but I'm going to explain the greatest part of the experience. While I was in the hallway about to go in there's a guy with either his date or just girlfriend about to go into a different movie, that I won't name. This is their exact conversation.

Her: So it's about cars?
Him: Well the first couple were, but they're about a lot more than that now.
Her: audible sigh and eye roll
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Max Power said:

Movie was decent but I'm going to explain the greatest part of the experience. While I was in the hallway about to go in there's a guy with either his date or just girlfriend about to go into a different movie, that I won't name. This is their exact conversation.

Her: So it's about cars?
Him: Well the first couple were, but they're about a lot more than that now.
Her: audible sigh and eye roll
Lol.

That relationship ended last night.
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YouBet said:

Max Power said:

Movie was decent but I'm going to explain the greatest part of the experience. While I was in the hallway about to go in there's a guy with either his date or just girlfriend about to go into a different movie, that I won't name. This is their exact conversation.

Her: So it's about cars?
Him: Well the first couple were, but they're about a lot more than that now.
Her: audible sigh and eye roll
Lol.

That relationship ended last night.


He should have replied, "Well the first couple were, but they're about a lot more than that now. They're about Family
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YouBet said:

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I thought it was good, but I think all the Marvel movies (except Hulk) have been good. I do think its in the bottom half, probably bottom third, but my biggest problem with the movie has nothing to do with the quality, but if feels lost in time.

It's the first movie of phase four yet it takes place during phase three. Endgame was the final chapter of the Infinity saga, Homecoming was the epilogue and this was supposed to be the beginning of a new story, yet here we are, stuck in a place we've been before. There's no advancement of the MCU story, its not really an origin story or prequel to anything, so the whole thing feels kinda pointless. If this came out between Civil War and Black Panther, I think I would I would have enjoyed it more.
Good point. I wonder if they felt like they needed a swan song for her character.
I think this movie serves as an introduction for Yelena. It was nice to see an origin story for Black Widow, but she's gone in the new phase. I agree that it's a weird movie for phase four if Yelena doesn't become a bigger character.
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The very first few minutes of this movie made me think of the ending scenes of a show about undercover soviet spies in America during the 80's.
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Thought it was a lot fun.

Sure, there are some plot holes, but this is one I didn't think too deeply about. I just wanted a fun ride, and BW delivered.

Solid casting, like others have said I hope we see Pugh in a more prominent role with future MCU films. She was great.

The humor was perfect. Just enough for the tone of the film, but kept it from being too serious. I haven't laughed that much in an MCU film since Ragnarok. Harbour as Red Guardian was everything I hoped for.

Honestly, I think it's a disappointment that BW didn't get the first 'stand-alone' female MCU film, because I think her storyline and character is way better than Captain Marvel. But at least they've now given BW a fitting send-off.
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Gigem314 said:

Thought it was a lot fun.

Sure, there are some plot holes, but this is one I didn't think too deeply about. I just wanted a fun ride, and BW delivered.

Solid casting, like others have said I hope we see Pugh in a more prominent role with future MCU films. She was great.

The humor was perfect. Just enough for the tone of the film, but kept it from being too serious. I haven't laughed that much in an MCU film since Ragnarok. Harbour as Red Guardian was everything I hoped for.

Honestly, I think it's a disappointment that BW didn't get the first 'stand-alone' female MCU film, because I think her storyline and character is way better than Captain Marvel. But at least they've now given BW a fitting send-off.
Endgame was on tv when I got back from watching BW in the theater. having seen everything to-date, i firmly believe Marvel screwed up (at least story-wise) by not releasing this BW film sometime after Civil War but before Infinity War. there were undoubtedly practical concerns (like shooting schedules and casting) to doing so, but i think the overall story (especially the Vormir scene in Endgame) would have been even better if the audience had seen BW first.
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I normally favor a rewatching order that matches the release order, but I will 100% watch this movie between Civil War and Infinity War.

That said... the post-credits scene has me super hyped for Hawkeye. So that was cool.
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Dude, same. Though I'd be so happy with just a straight adaptation of the Fraction/Aja run.
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Max Power said:

Movie was decent but I'm going to explain the greatest part of the experience. While I was in the hallway about to go in there's a guy with either his date or just girlfriend about to go into a different movie, that I won't name. This is their exact conversation.

Her: So it's about cars?
Him: Well the first couple were, but they're about a lot more than that now.
Her: audible sigh and eye roll
Lol.

That relationship ended last night.
i bet she got furious pretty fast and walked out...
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I love Florence Pugh. I've thought she was going to be a star ever since the first time I saw her. She absolutely owns the screen in everything she's in.

For those of you saying you hope there's more plans for her... y'all did see the end credit right?


If you want to see more of her. Check out the following:

Fighting with my Family - I was really skeptical about this true story of a female wrestler but it's actually fantastic. And she is awesome
The Little Drummer Girl - 70's set spy miniseries made by the same people who did The Night Manager
Midsommar - If you don't know what this is, be warned. This is not for the faint of heart
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Saw it yesterday.... almost on a whim. It was significantly better than I expected. The hand to hand combat scenes were about as good as I've seen throughout the MCU. Story was good and like mentioned above, in a perfect world this movie should've been released earlier in the timeline. Florence Pugh's character almost has to be developed further just based on how she stole the show in this one. .... a very good movie that I'll definitely see again.
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Sex Panther said:

Loved it thought it was super entertaining and funny with great action and fight scenes


I was also glad to see that the Red Room program in Russia had such strong diversity protocols in place
I thought about that as well but when you see the Red Room as agents all over the world, they kind of had to do that. And really, who ever expects the woman to be the assassin. It's kind of a perfect cover for the Red Room sleeper agents.

Thought this was a solid MU movie. Much better than Black Panther.
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Sex Panther said:

I love Florence Pugh. I've thought she was going to be a star ever since the first time I saw her.



Lol. Okay, Redstone.
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jeffk said:

Sex Panther said:

I love Florence Pugh. I've thought she was going to be a star ever since the first time I saw her.



Lol. Okay, Redstone.


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I enjoyed it and thought it was a lot of fun throughout but man was I disappointed with Taskmasker. I was hoping Taskmasker would be a wise cracking bad ass. It seemed weird to have a 40 year old actress play a character that is like 20 maybe. I think the movie takes place in 2016? and Black Widow thought she killed the little girl in the explosion a few years earlier. The math didnt add up for me. Other than that it was enjoyable.
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Fantastic movie.
The sheriff was awesome! Seriously
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You came to her career late. What UK work were you familiar with?
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Sex Panther said:

jeffk said:

Sex Panther said:

I love Florence Pugh. I've thought she was going to be a star ever since the first time I saw her.



Lol. Okay, Redstone.





Watching the movie, I kept thinking she gets hotter as the movie goes on I'd never heard of her.

Looked her up she's like 25 and her boyfriend is 46!!!!!
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AMW2010 said:

Sex Panther said:

jeffk said:

Sex Panther said:

I love Florence Pugh. I've thought she was going to be a star ever since the first time I saw her.



Lol. Okay, Redstone.





Watching the movie, I kept thinking she gets hotter as the movie goes on I'd never heard of her.

Looked her up she's like 25 and her boyfriend is 46!!!!!
To add a bit of context, she's dating Zach Braff.
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Honest question, should I know who that is? Regardless.21 years is a A lot!
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fig96 said:

AMW2010 said:

Sex Panther said:

jeffk said:

Sex Panther said:

I love Florence Pugh. I've thought she was going to be a star ever since the first time I saw her.



Lol. Okay, Redstone.





Watching the movie, I kept thinking she gets hotter as the movie goes on I'd never heard of her.

Looked her up she's like 25 and her boyfriend is 46!!!!!
To add a bit of context, she's dating Zach Braff.
And she has been since 2019, and living with him throughout the quarantine. You can often hear the disbelief in Donald Faison's voice when Braff talks about her on the Scrubs Podcast lol. And her brother played Trystane Martell (briefly) on Game of Thrones.
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AMW2010 said:

Honest question, should I know who that is? Regardless.21 years is a A lot!


The lead from Scrubs
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AMW2010 said:

Honest question, should I know who that is? Regardless.21 years is a A lot!
If you've got any interest in entertainment/Hollywood/filmmaking, probably.

And agreed.
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Rachel Weisz still looks great
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hunter2012 said:


Braff calls his best friend brown bear.
He dates the girl from Midsommar
That ending to Midsommar...
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MrPlow2010 said:

I enjoyed it and thought it was a lot of fun throughout but man was I disappointed with Taskmasker. I was hoping Taskmasker would be a wise cracking bad ass. It seemed weird to have a 40 year old actress play a character that is like 20 maybe. I think the movie takes place in 2016? and Black Widow thought she killed the little girl in the explosion a few years earlier. The math didnt add up for me. Other than that it was enjoyable.
I agree taskmasker was a bit of a letdown, but did they ever say when the bombing took place?

Winter Soldier came out in 2014. Natasha says that she got shot by Bucky while trying to escort a VIP our of Iran 5 years prior, so 2009.

In 2010, she was under cover at Stark Industries (reporting directly to Fury). I would assume that she would need a lot of missions under her belt to prove her worth before shadowing a potential Avenger.

At the earliest, the mission could have been 2009, but she probably had a lot of debriefing, retraining, and minor missions to do to prove her worth. So it could have been early 2000s.

Either way, casting a 40 year old actor may have been to highlight the stress of her augmentations. make her look older and not baby-faced.
 
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