Nope. The strip club owner came out at the end of that scene, but he had nothing to do with the fight.
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You're not wrong, but they've definitely made it a believable scenario with the detective whose son died in a mysterious way. I'm curious if his son died due to foul play? And if so, I wonder if it ties into the overall story in some way.mazzag said:
None of this, after the child was found, would have happened if the detective would've handled the arrest better. The community was split, the mourning family, devastated. Now a community in ruins. Is that the goal? It can't just be about one mans life.
I'm pretty sure they mentioned cancer. So not a mystery. He was just worried his son got abused by what he thought was a creeper killer coach, but unrelated to his death.
BowSowy said:You're not wrong, but they've definitely made it a believable scenario with the detective whose son died in a mysterious way. I'm curious if his son died due to foul play? And if so, I wonder if it ties into the overall story in some way.mazzag said:
None of this, after the child was found, would have happened if the detective would've handled the arrest better. The community was split, the mourning family, devastated. Now a community in ruins. Is that the goal? It can't just be about one mans life.
Thought the detective's son died of cancer?
His wife definitely mentions cancer directly but the death of his son is still the obvious big factor in why he does what he does regarding the arrest. Its obvious he has a ton of baggage regarding that death.
Maybe it was all the years of my coaching fastpitch, but i loved the drag bunt scene. Bateman at his understated finest.
MBAR said:
His wife definitely mentions cancer directly but the death of his son is still the obvious big factor in why he does what he does regarding the arrest. Its obvious he has a ton of baggage regarding that death.
A human being definitely did something to his son.
There's zero reason to believe this. His wife specifically says he died from cancer.BallerStaf2003 said:MBAR said:
His wife definitely mentions cancer directly but the death of his son is still the obvious big factor in why he does what he does regarding the arrest. Its obvious he has a ton of baggage regarding that death.
A human being definitely did something to his son.
Here's another funny one. Yul Vazques who plays Yunis was the dude threatening to beat up Kramer for not wearing the ribbon during the Aids Walk. "Who? Who won't wear the ribbon?"TCTTS said:
Oh and btw, the detective guy who was hunting and started the fight in the strip club - played by Marc Menchaca - is the bearded, secretly gay uncle dude from Ozark. More importantly, though, Menchaca is also an Aggie.
Every time I see that actor I think of Seinfeld. So funny.
I have not read or even heard about this book, but I just watched the first 2 episodes last night....FANTASTIC.
I love love love the twist on your standard "Crime thriller "whodunnit"" with, "no, you actually know who did it, but how? oh and here's a side of supernatural."
The cinematography is great, the score is completely UNNERVING and the dialogue is so smart.
HBO is easily the best content service I pay for. They are truly curators of excellence.
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I can't believe they killed Bateman in the SECOND EPISODE lol. I love when shows have the confidence in their craftsmanship to do that. It just made be more hyped for the rest of the season.
I love love love the twist on your standard "Crime thriller "whodunnit"" with, "no, you actually know who did it, but how? oh and here's a side of supernatural."
The cinematography is great, the score is completely UNNERVING and the dialogue is so smart.
HBO is easily the best content service I pay for. They are truly curators of excellence.
***episode 2 spoiler for those who haven't caught up***
I can't believe they killed Bateman in the SECOND EPISODE lol. I love when shows have the confidence in their craftsmanship to do that. It just made be more hyped for the rest of the season.
I don't know how any clearer they could have made it; but no one hurt his son. It's the crux of Ralph's "character" ...that his day job is to save people from bad guys but he was unable to save his son. That there's no justice to be had.BallerStaf2003 said:A human being definitely did something to his son.MBAR said:
His wife definitely mentions cancer directly but the death of his son is still the obvious big factor in why he does what he does regarding the arrest. Its obvious he has a ton of baggage regarding that death.
He clearly displaces that feeling towards Terry (Jason Bateman) after seeing another boy (the same age as his own son) ravaged so ruthlessly (as cancer ravaged his own son).
Watched this last night. Awesome start to the series. And I agree that where they went in episode two was shocking but makes me really pumped for the rest of the series because it could go anywhere. Also, I was really hoping we didn't have to keep watching "scary prison scenes" every episode. That was very cheesy and was starting to feel like The Night Of, which had one of the best first episodes I've ever seen and then quickly became terrible when it just focused on the "scary prison" stuff.
Really looking forward to the rest.
Really looking forward to the rest.
What do you guys think of Ben Mendelsohn? I thought he was solid in a small role in The Place Beyond the Pines. I liked him in Bloodline (though I ultimately tired of the show after season 1). I also think I'm one of the few that enjoyed Ready Player One as well. He has an odd way of speaking, though.
Anyway, I've liked him so far in this as well.
Anyway, I've liked him so far in this as well.
Big fan. I still think his role as Danny in Bloodline remains his apex mountain, but it's nice to see him play a protagonist (seemingly) in this show.
Also, Julianne Nicholson (who plays Bateman's wife) has been great so far.
Also, Julianne Nicholson (who plays Bateman's wife) has been great so far.
I like Mendelsohn and think he's doing great in this so far. That said, he looks like he's using his cheeks for storage.
Bateman's monologue scene in the jail...
Phenomenal acting from Bateman. Phenomal dialogue.Quote:
"You must have noticed a difference in him, right? Did you notice that, that summer? How confident he was? How proud he was? He was a, he was a big little guy. And, um, you know, I don't want, I don't want you to get the wrong impression; he practiced, a lot, but I taught him that. I taught him how to bunt. So, when you asked me if I ever touched your kid... Well I really hope I did."
I've only seen the first episode so if this is a stupid question I apologize. Are we to assume the Mom of the young boy that was killed died also? They showed her breaking things with the bat in her kitchen then show her family at the hospital getting news from the doctor. Did I miss something?
Yes, it was a little confusing, but it seems that she must have killed herself. There's the doc delivering news to the husband and remaining son, followed by both of them at a funeral parlor where the director mentions how they would be getting two caskets/side-by-side burial or something..
Pretty sure she had a heart attack or stroke...
Maybe that was it. Either way, dead essentially from the grief of losing her son.
Yeah that's what it looked like but just wanted to get yalls thoughts. They show her having a breakdown but the scene was dark and from far away. Would make sense though.
Yeah, she has the breakdown. Then it eventually cuts to the husband and son in the waiting room with a doc delivering bad news. Any specific cause is just someone's guess, other the intent of the story is obviously to link it to her grief.
Mrs. Peterson dies of a heart attack in a similar scenario in the book so I would assume it's a safe bet to say that is what they were trying to get at in the episode.
Yes, she suffered a heart attack and if you've never seen the effects of a heart attack, that clip was a perfect representation of one.
Seriously, be aware of the symptoms. Left arm goes numb (you'll notice she grabs her arm before clutching her chest), shooting pain the chest, shortness of breath, and then collapse. Hospitalization is required immediately.
Seriously, be aware of the symptoms. Left arm goes numb (you'll notice she grabs her arm before clutching her chest), shooting pain the chest, shortness of breath, and then collapse. Hospitalization is required immediately.
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Thought it was interesting that the guy in the hoodie was outside of the house when the Dad tried to hang himself. Wondering if he started this whole process to see that entire family die.
Thought it was interesting that the guy in the hoodie was outside of the house when the Dad tried to hang himself. Wondering if he started this whole process to see that entire family die.
Watched both episodes last night, and the show thus far is amazing. Great plot, dialogue, acting. Every time the guy in the hood makes an appearance the hair on my arms stands up. Crazy how the show hums along as a cop/bad guy show and then the weird super natural **** sneaks in! Love it! For anyone who has read the book, is there another Stephen King book you would compare it to?
Just watched both episodes. Loved it. Bill Camp is greatness...loved him as the detective in The Night Of and now the opposite in this as a defense attorney.
Every nighttime scene with the younger daughter creeped me the hell out.Bigfootisreal said:
Every time the guy in the hood makes an appearance the hair on my arms stands up.
BowSowy said:Every nighttime scene with the younger daughter creeped me the hell out.Bigfootisreal said:
Every time the guy in the hood makes an appearance the hair on my arms stands up.
This!!!
What's in the hay loft of the barn?! That last scene, all I could do is think what's up that ladder?! First get your rifle.
And what killed that pig???!!!
King just has too many damn novels.
Every single theory I have come up with on what is going on ends with me thinking "nah, he did that in _________".
We've done evil doppelgangers. We've done shape-shifting werewolves. We've done shape-shifting demons. We've done dead-things returning bad. We've done time-travel multiple versions of oneself.
Every single theory I have come up with on what is going on ends with me thinking "nah, he did that in _________".
We've done evil doppelgangers. We've done shape-shifting werewolves. We've done shape-shifting demons. We've done dead-things returning bad. We've done time-travel multiple versions of oneself.
I've been putting my hoodie on and standing in dark corners of the house trying to scare the wife. She hates me for it.
So forget about the "justice train". In the jail conversation, the atty said that the charges where withdrawn. He then went on to say an arraignment would be held and bail discussed.
If no charges, why arraignment and bail?
If no charges, why arraignment and bail?
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