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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

The road to The Crystal Skull was a long one, with lots of scripts and story ideas that were considered over a number of years before they settled on what became The Crystal Skull.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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TC was the first person I ever saw voice this thought, but we should have been getting Indy movies just like we got James Bond movies. Once Ford didn't want to do it anymore after the first 3 (im guessing), could have recast him with someone that fits the roles needs
Agreed on the recasting. Problem was, Harrison Ford had never actually stepped away from the role. The road to The Crystal Skull was a long one, with lots of scripts and story ideas that were considered over a number of years before they settled on what became The Crystal Skull. Now that Ford has publicly stated The Dial of Destiny will be his last time as Indiana Jones, I would hope that the role is recast and we get more Indiana Jones movies.
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The Porkchop Express said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

PatAg said:

TC was the first person I ever saw voice this thought, but we should have been getting Indy movies just like we got James Bond movies. Once Ford didn't want to do it anymore after the first 3 (im guessing), could have recast him with someone that fits the roles needs
Agreed on the recasting. Problem was, Harrison Ford had never actually stepped away from the role. The road to The Crystal Skull was a long one, with lots of scripts and story ideas that were considered over a number of years before they settled on what became The Crystal Skull. Now that Ford has publicly stated The Dial of Destiny will be his last time as Indiana Jones, I would hope that the role is recast and we get more Indiana Jones movies.

Don't get mad at me. Take it up with the 80-yr-old and Father Time.
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jeffk said:

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It feels a bit odd seeing someone as old as Harrison Ford leaping between cars and doing all these stunts.
That was my first thought watching the trailers.


We were talking about this yesterday too. Realized that Hollywood is kind of on an old man action hero phase with this and The Old Man and even the newer John Wick movies. Was RED the first old people can be violent too film?
Westerns sort of went through it in the 60's and 70's, coincidentally as their popularity was dropping off. Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne were 68 and 69, respectively, when The Shootist came out. William Holden, surprisingly, was a spry young 51 when The Wild Bunch came out.

It's funny how much older people looked then, and how our ideas of "really old" have shifted. But I'm not sure there's any good comparison for an 80-year old Indiana Jones.
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Microwave Onions said:

jeffk said:

wcb said:

Aggie_Journalist said:

It feels a bit odd seeing someone as old as Harrison Ford leaping between cars and doing all these stunts.
That was my first thought watching the trailers.


We were talking about this yesterday too. Realized that Hollywood is kind of on an old man action hero phase with this and The Old Man and even the newer John Wick movies. Was RED the first old people can be violent too film?
Westerns sort of went through it in the 60's and 70's, coincidentally as their popularity was dropping off. Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne were 68 and 69, respectively, when The Shootist came out. William Holden, surprisingly, was a spry young 51 when The Wild Bunch came out.

It's funny how much older people looked then, and how our ideas of "really old" have shifted. But I'm not sure there's any good comparison for an 80-year old Indiana Jones.
I was 15 when Last Crusade and thought Sean Connery was 75-80 years old. He was 59 when the movie came out.
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Indy! The Stones! What a combo, what a trailer...

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Perfection.

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So which character from earlier films is the female lead's father?
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I *think* he's the character played by Toby Jones, who we see in the flashbacks. There was an edit in the trailer that seemed to connect them.
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Jeez. Reading through his wiki, he's been in just a massive amount of movies. Pays to have a slightly unusual appearance and a classic English accent.

Just this paragraph alone is incredible:
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He is also known for his voice roles as Dobby in the Harry Potter films (20022011), Aristides Silk in The Adventures of Tintin (2011) and Owl in Disney's Christopher Robin (2018). He is also known for his blockbuster roles as Claudius Templesmith in The Hunger Games franchise (2012-2013), Arnim Zola in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) films Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) and Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), and the Disney+ television series What If...? (2021), and as Mr. Eversoll in Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018).
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He was also the guy who was running the dinosaur auction in the second Jurassic World movie, memorable only because they gave him a bit of a Trump look right before the raptor killed him.
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That trailer gives away just enough to compel non-Indy fans to see it. For me, who considers Indiana Jones to be the best character ever put on film, well, I'll be taking June 30 off and seeing it at the first showing. Then likely seeing it a few more times over the next week or so.
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TCTTS said:

Perfection.


The only quibble I have with this poster is they have dropped the classic font-coloring for Indiana Jones going from dark orange to yellow to white.

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Really fun trailer. Whoever de-Aged Indy should start writing their Oscar speech.
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wait...is Indy gonna time travel in this movie?
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redline248 said:

wait...is Indy gonna time travel in this movie?
All I can say is that is not WWII-era Indy diving out the bomb bay of that Heinkel bomber (look at the gray hair). So either there is a Heinkel being chased by what appeared to be a Bf108 in the 60s, or ...
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

redline248 said:

wait...is Indy gonna time travel in this movie?
All I can say is that is not WWII-era Indy diving out the bomb bay of that Heinkel bomber (look at the gray hair). So either there is a Heinkel being chased by what appeared to be a Bf108 in the 60s, or ...
The couple scenes on the train is definitely new footage, with him de-aged. And at a brief glance, it looks good
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Adding a time travel element to an Indiana Jones movie just seems like a bad idea.

It grants the possibility of both making a bad sequel and prequel all at the same time. Hopefully they don't do something that breaks the franchise.
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TV Casualty said:

Adding a time travel element to an Indiana Jones movie just seems like a bad idea.

It grants the possibility of both making a bad sequel and prequel all at the same time. Hopefully they don't do something that breaks the franchise.
The last movie had aliens in it and a climax that made no sense. This is the first movie in 15 years and the main actor is 80 years old. I think whatever happens, this is going to be it for this version of the franchise so breaking the franchise seems kinda moot.
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Yeah, I get what you're saying. The Crystal Skull was a mistake and it did somewhat tarnish the original films.

It's just that adding a time travel component really opens up the possibility of doing something dumb that significantly alters the original films.

Time travel in a film generally changes the stakes as well. Can always go back in time and undo whatever happened.
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Although Indiana Jones films have always neutralized the Macguffin at the end of the movie.
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TV Casualty said:

Yeah, I get what you're saying. The Crystal Skull was a mistake and it did somewhat tarnish the original films.

It's just that adding a time travel component really opens up the possibility of doing something dumb that significantly alters the original films.

Time travel in a film generally changes the stakes as well. Can always go back in time and undo whatever happened.
Not if you pretend it doesn't exist
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TV Casualty said:

Adding a time travel element to an Indiana Jones movie just seems like a bad idea.

It grants the possibility of both making a bad sequel and prequel all at the same time. Hopefully they don't do something that breaks the franchise.
Could all just be flashbacks
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wangus12 said:

TV Casualty said:

Yeah, I get what you're saying. The Crystal Skull was a mistake and it did somewhat tarnish the original films.

It's just that adding a time travel component really opens up the possibility of doing something dumb that significantly alters the original films.

Time travel in a film generally changes the stakes as well. Can always go back in time and undo whatever happened.
Not if you pretend it doesn't exist
Or if you recognize that despite its faults, it's better than The Temple of Doom with that annoying brat kid and that screeching blonde.
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Kathleen Kennedy has said publicly that the movie opens with a flashback sequence, the one we continue to see in the trailers. Beyond that, *if* there's an actual time travel element later on, my gut tells me it will be brief and likely just a glimpse of sorts. I seriously doubt they go full Endgame here.

Either way, again, Disney/Lucasfilm is beyond confident in this movie. They're not only publicly screening it seven weeks before it hits theaters, they've now given Mangold his own "biblical epic" Star Wars movie, based on how well they thought he did with this movie. In other words, we're almost assuredly in good hands, and in for something special, no matter where the plot takes us.
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TCTTS said:

Kathleen Kennedy has said publicly that the movie opens with a flashback sequence, the one we continue to see in the trailers. Beyond that, *if* there's an actual time travel element later on, my gut tells me it will be brief and likely just a glimpse of sorts. I seriously doubt they go full Endgame here.

Either way, again, Disney/Lucasfilm is beyond confident in this movie. They're not only publicly screening it seven weeks before it hits theaters, they've now given Mangold his own "biblical epic" Star Wars movie, based on how well they thought he did with this movie. In other words, we're almost assuredly in good hands, and in for something special, no matter where the plot takes us.
The Mangold news basically was the biggest green checkmark that Disney could have given
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I wonder what he loves about it most? How much money it might make him if lots of people are convinced to see it?
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Do you get paid for such opinions?
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A) I love watching great movies, and talking about them in the lead up.

B) James Mangold is one of my favorite directors.

C) Because Crystal Skull was so bad, most people assumed this one would be too. But when the signs started mounting that it might actually be good, I figured it was worth noting.

Is this a suffice enough answer for you?
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Did we know this?

https://www.gamesradar.com/indiana-jones-5-deaging-harrison-ford-dial-of-destiny/

The opening sequence of young Harrison Ford is 25 minutes long and a fifth of overall run time
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Tibbers said:

Do you get paid for such opinions?
You could do a pretty good thesis on the TC cycle of movie hype and hate.

But I do appreciate the way he unabashedly promotes projects and collects news. I'm informed on movie news by 3 Star Wars sites and TexAgs, and about 97% of the TexAgs knowledge comes straight from TC.
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TCTTS said:

A) I love watching great movies, and talking about them in the lead up.

B) James Mangold is one of my favorite directors.

C) Because Crystal Skull was so bad, most people assumed this one would be too. But when the signs started mounting that it might actually be good, I figured it was worth noting.

Is this a suffice enough answer for you?
nope, you didn't answer the question. Do you get paid to post here and attempt to drive up hype? Have you ever in the past been paid to do so? It's a simple question. Also, what is your favorite 80's horror and do you like Fred Olen Ray movies?
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Tibbers said:

TCTTS said:

A) I love watching great movies, and talking about them in the lead up.

B) James Mangold is one of my favorite directors.

C) Because Crystal Skull was so bad, most people assumed this one would be too. But when the signs started mounting that it might actually be good, I figured it was worth noting.

Is this a suffice enough answer for you?
nope, you didn't answer the question. Do you get paid to post here and attempt to drive up hype? Have you ever in the past been paid to do so? It's a simple question. Also, what is your favorite 80's horror and do you like Fred Olen Ray movies?


Kathleen got her feelings hurt because the board was mean and has had TC solely locked in to get the hypes of Aggie's far and wide hyped up for her movies and shows
 
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