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Have a legit passing of the torch. He has some soviet a holes drumming up some shenanigans and needs to intervene while hunting for a rare artifact. But he's too old. His grad assistant at the university takes up the torch as Indiana Jones.

For the following movies, said grad assistant operates as himself by day and Indiana Jones by night.

You get the bond style universe with an actual explanation why some random ass guy has the same name but different face as the last guy.

Just make sure the actor you choose isn't a spoof or a pure comic. Needs to be charismatic and very dry in humor style.

Hell, I don't even mind it being a black guy. Give it to the black panther guy. He could be amazing in that role.

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Gonna call that a pretty big loophole and side with Craig on that one.

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Not a loophole at all. All the hallmarks of the James Bond character were there - bedding gals, martinis shaken not stirred, wise quips, etc.

Responding to another post, I like the idea of Ford as old Indy reminiscing, much like the episode of Young Indiana Jones where he was sitting on a park bench remembering the story they were about to lay out, with one of the two actors they cast in that series as Indy (don't recall the story or if it was the pre-teen Indy or the teen Indy).

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The lore of Indiana Jones started feeling hollow in Crystal Skull.

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I think the problem was the lack of Nazis. He was always a character of the 30s/40s, yet here we have this rather iconic shot of Indiana Jones, with hat, coat, and whip visible, standing on a hill with a rising mushroom cloud in the distance. That just didn't feel like Indiana Jones.

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And the aliens. Don't forget the aliens....And the monkeys......And the ants.

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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The lore of Indiana Jones started feeling hollow in Crystal Skull.

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I think the problem was the lack of Nazis. He was always a character of the 30s/40s, yet here we have this rather iconic shot of Indiana Jones, with hat, coat, and whip visible, standing on a hill with a rising mushroom cloud in the distance. That just didn't feel like Indiana Jones.

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And the aliens. Don't forget the aliens....And the monkeys......And the ants.

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Didn't you forget about the chipmonks? (I think that's what was watching the rocket thing go through the desert, and maybe also in the opening shot of the movie?, I dunno, it's been many years since I watched this one).

The monkeys were silly. The aliens ... eh, no real issue with that. I thought the ants sequence was pretty good.

But then, I'm one of the few who actually enjoyed the movie, and consider it no worse than the Temple of Doom (both of which are far inferior to The Last Crusade and Raiders).

I seriously would not put it past them. I saw the thread title multiple times today and didn't notice it until it was pointed out in the last hour or so.

I agree that Indiana Jones should remain in the 30's and 40's. There's a certain mystique to that time period that made it feel like a story.

I hope they pass the baton off to someone in a way that honors Ford.

One of the biggest tragedies of the series is that we never got one set underneath the backdrop of WWII. I hope that's something we get to see if they continue series after Ford.

I'm a huge Chris Pratt fan, so I'm bias...but I'd be happy seeing him in the role. Though after seeing TROS, I think Oscar Isaac wouldn't be a bad choice either. Hardy could absolutely pull it off too.

Classic.

Loved the idea of Pratt in this role 6-8 years ago (pre-Jurassic Park reboot). Wouldn't be as enthused about him in it now.

Bradley Cooper?

Jeffrey Dean Morgan (too old)? I'll go to my grave thinking The Losers was a criminally underrated movie. Morgan was great in that tole and gave off a bit of an Indy vibe.

Timothy Olyphant (already played his iconic hat wearing role)?

Old news, obviously, but I never knew there was actual screen test footage...

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Old news, obviously, but I never knew there was actual screen test footage...

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Ummmmm no.

Granted, much easier to look back at this in retrospect but there's just no charisma there.

Pedro Cerano said:

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Loved the idea of Pratt in this role 6-8 years ago (pre-Jurassic Park reboot). Wouldn't be as enthused about him in it now.

Bradley Cooper?

Jeffrey Dean Morgan (too old)? I'll go to my grave thinking The Losers was a criminally underrated movie. Morgan was great in that tole and gave off a bit of an Indy vibe.

Timothy Olyphant (already played his iconic hat wearing role)?

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He has 2

Gigem314 said:

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I agree that Indiana Jones should remain in the 30's and 40's. There's a certain mystique to that time period that made it feel like a story.

I hope they pass the baton off to someone in a way that honors Ford.

One of the biggest tragedies of the series is that we never got one set underneath the backdrop of WWII. I hope that's something we get to see if they continue series after Ford.

I'm a huge Chris Pratt fan, so I'm bias...but I'd be happy seeing him in the role. Though after seeing TROS, I think Oscar Isaac wouldn't be a bad choice either. Hardy could absolutely pull it off too.

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If Isaac was a little taller I would agree, he would be great. Im not sure he would work in the role at 5'9"

The extra D is for Crystal Skull.

It's crazy that he was not first choice for Indy or Han in George's mind.

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I'd love that. All we got was a throw-away line in Skull regarding his activities behind enemy lines during the war. That is a movie I'd love to see, but I have to wonder how that would tie in to his typical storyline of searching for some priceless artifact, or would it be more of an espionage/spy story?

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I seriously would not put it past them. I saw the thread title multiple times today and didn't notice it until it was pointed out in the last hour or so.

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You are welcome. I know how little that stuff bothers you.

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One of the biggest tragedies of the series is that we never got one set underneath the backdrop of WWII.

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I'd love that. All we got was a throw-away line in Skull regarding his activities behind enemy lines during the war. That is a movie I'd love to see, but I have to wonder how that would tie in to his typical storyline of searching for some priceless artifact, or would it be more of an espionage/spy story?

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In The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones, there were a few episodes of him working behind the lines, but I think that was during WWI.

The basic premise of the first and third Indiana Jones movies centered around the Nazi's obsession with the occult and the use of ancient artifacts to help their cause. Thus, I'd think it would be fairly easy to come up with multiple storylines about how Indiana is used by the US to fight their search for ancient artifacts.

How about a look back at what could have been? I just ran across this article on Twitter and remembered that I have most of these scripts, which I've uploaded and organized with their respective excerpts, along with detailed plot breakdowns I found as well...

https://filmschoolrejects.com/unmade-indiana-jones-movies


1985 - Indiana Jones and the Monkey King

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Before The Last Crusade came to fruition, George Lucas toyed with this idea for the third movie. Chris Columbus was hired to write the script, and he came up with a story that featured ghosts, Nazis, pirates, gorillas, undead armies, pygmies, and peaches that could bring people back to life.

The story begins with Indy getting into a battle of wits with the ghost of a dead nobleman in a haunted castle, but the cusp of the tale takes place in Africa, as Indy searches for a lost city where the Fountain of Youth is located. Upon arrival, though, he crosses paths with the Monkey King, gets killed and resurrected, and engages in a game of chess where the pieces are humans who disintegrate after being eliminated from the game.

The idea was ultimately shelved after Lucas and co. deemed it too far-fetched and unrealistic, not to mention problematic and stereotypical in regards to its portrayal of African people. Still, an Indy movie from the writer of Gremlins does sound fascinating, no matter how off the rails it would have been.

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1995 - Indiana Jones and the Saucermen from Mars

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In the '90s, George Lucas began developing an idea for a fourth movie in which Indy would have faced off against Russian spies and aliens. The script was initially written by Jeb Stuart, but Jeffrey Boam, who penned The Last Crusade, inherited those duties later on.

In this one, Indy becomes smitten with a linguist who is conducting research on a mysterious cylinder. However, she disappears on their wedding day, and he tracks her down to a secret military facility where he learns that she's been investigating UFOs. Shortly after, though, a spaceship appears, and it doesn't take long until they find themselves having close encounters of the third kind.

The project was canned due to the release of Independence Day, another movie that revolves around an alien invasion scenario. However, aliens did make their way into the franchise eventually with The Crystal Skull, showing that anything is possible in this universe.

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2003 - Indiana Jones and the City of the Gods

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This is the most disappointing project to never see the light of day. Written by Frank Darabont, this was Spielberg's preferred choice for the fourth movie, but Lucas wasn't a fan of his drafts, which prompted him to hire David Koepp to write the film that became Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Darabont's script borrowed elements from The Saucermen from Mars, though the alien invasion stuff wasn't as heavy-handed. The story took place in the 1950s and followed an Indy who was past his prime, and rumor has it he also had a daughter. However, after coming into possession of a crystal skull, he sets off to find the City of the Gods to discover its secrets, which brings him into contact with extraterrestrial beings who anoint him as their chosen one.

Some of Darabont's ideas found their way into The Crystal Skull, but this one will go down in history as a case of wondering what could have been. All because one important person wasn't a fan of a script, even though his peers thought it was excellent.

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