nobody nominated it.wangus12 said:
Did Enemy at the Gates make the list or was that one we forgot about.
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ROTK not even making it past this round is ridiculous.
As for John Williams and how he will be regarded in 100 years...I'd venture a guess that about the same as today.
The best of all time.
The best of all time.
That is incredible.
I wish he would have scored all of the Harry Potter movies.
I wish he would have scored all of the Harry Potter movies.
It's still going to qualify for the Field of 64, it just wasn't the group winner.Brian Earl Spilner said:
ROTK not even making it past this round is ridiculous.
In the previous two group tournaments I've done - Marvel moments and Marvel hotties - entries with at least about 20%-22% of the vote wound up making the Field of 64. So far there are 20 movies that have at least 20% of the vote. It didn't win its group, but ROTK is solidly in the top 15 vote-getters. It won't have any problem getting to the Round of 64.
Unrelated to anything:
I lived about 10 minutes from John Williams' birthplace / hometown of Floral Park, Long Island for several years.
I lived about 10 minutes from John Williams' birthplace / hometown of Floral Park, Long Island for several years.
Gotcha.
Still think it should have beat out Raiders, but that's just me.
(I mean we're talking about two of the best scores of all time, just my own personal preference.)
Still think it should have beat out Raiders, but that's just me.
(I mean we're talking about two of the best scores of all time, just my own personal preference.)
Agree 100%.wangus12 said:
John Williams is our Beethoven or Mozart or Bach. He will be remembered for his compositions long after we're gone. Film has replaced opera as the stage, but the music is no less incredible.
The final 15 minutes of e.t. would work just as well without the already minimal dialog based purely on the score.
I don't know the Rings movies as well as most. Which of the 3 is considered to have the best score? Was it Return or Fellowship?
Hard to say. They both won the Oscar, but I think because ROTK is the more celebrated movie overall (as far as awards go), probably that.Yoda said:
I don't know the Rings movies as well as most. Which of the 3 is considered to have the best score? Was it Return or Fellowship?
But I would have Fellowship just slightly ahead. The Breaking of the Fellowship is probably my favorite movie score track of all time.
I like Fellowship the best, but what do I know.Yoda said:
I don't know the Rings movies as well as most. Which of the 3 is considered to have the best score? Was it Return or Fellowship?
I can't watch the movie without tearing up, and it's 100% due to Williams' music. Every time.Yoda said:Agree 100%.wangus12 said:
John Williams is our Beethoven or Mozart or Bach. He will be remembered for his compositions long after we're gone. Film has replaced opera as the stage, but the music is no less incredible.
The final 15 minutes of e.t. would work just as well without the already minimal dialog based purely on the score.
I was surprised how wide a margin Raiders won by. But I also consider ROTK the least memorable of the three LOTR scores.Brian Earl Spilner said:
Gotcha.
Still think it should have beat out Raiders, but that's just me.
(I mean we're talking about two of the best scores of all time, just my own personal preference.)
TTT with a good draw should make the final four.
Last Jedi (and the sequel trilogy overall) was a bit on the weaker side as far as John Williams (and Star Wars) scores go. Had no issues voting for ET in that group. Hope it moves on.
I guess the main issue working against ROTK's score is that the best themes of the trilogy were already established in the previous films, and/or not used much in the final movie, except in small ways. (Fellowship theme, Concerning Hobbits, etc.)
With the exception of Gondor's theme, which had only been mildly teased in the Council of Elrond scene, and got its big shining moment in the Lighting of the Beacons scene.
But that said, the use of Rohan's theme on the violin during the charge of the Rohirrim, that swelling / full orchestrated version of Concerning Hobbits during the "You bow to no one" scene, and the previously mentioned Lighting of the Beacons scene, are basically the sole reasons that score deserves all the awards it got.
With the exception of Gondor's theme, which had only been mildly teased in the Council of Elrond scene, and got its big shining moment in the Lighting of the Beacons scene.
But that said, the use of Rohan's theme on the violin during the charge of the Rohirrim, that swelling / full orchestrated version of Concerning Hobbits during the "You bow to no one" scene, and the previously mentioned Lighting of the Beacons scene, are basically the sole reasons that score deserves all the awards it got.
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Last Jedi (and the sequel trilogy overall) was a bit on the weaker side as far as John Williams (and Star Wars) scores go.
Agreed. So who would be tbe modern equivalent of Salieri? Popular in his day, but forgettable in the long run. James Horner?wangus12 said:
John Williams is our Beethoven or Mozart or Bach. He will be remembered for his compositions long after we're gone. Film has replaced opera as the stage, but the music is no less incredible.
I actually voted Arrival over E.T. Both are great, obviously, but I really liked how the music was used in Arrival. In particular the 3 songs used for this.
This is a fun tournament. Arrival won't move on, but I wanted to give it some recognition.
This is a fun tournament. Arrival won't move on, but I wanted to give it some recognition.
Its early but arrival is really showing well
MuckRaker96 said:
Its early but arrival is really showing well
It was a dark horse candidate for me
powerbelly said:MuckRaker96 said:
Its early but arrival is really showing well
It was a dark horse candidate for me
MuckRaker96 said:nobody nominated it.wangus12 said:
Did Enemy at the Gates make the list or was that one we forgot about.
I didn't think about it, but it popped up on recommended in my YouTube feed since we're watching so many soundtracks
I hope you guys appreciate how many ads for Grammarly I'm having to watch in order to pull 16 links a day off YouTube.wangus12 said:MuckRaker96 said:nobody nominated it.wangus12 said:
Did Enemy at the Gates make the list or was that one we forgot about.
I didn't think about it, but it popped up on recommended in my YouTube feed since we're watching so many soundtracks
Good, don't expect it to beat ET but I hope it makes it to the round of 64.MuckRaker96 said:
Its early but arrival is really showing well
Horner maybe.G Martin 87 said:Agreed. So who would be tbe modern equivalent of Salieri? Popular in his day, but forgettable in the long run. James Horner?wangus12 said:
John Williams is our Beethoven or Mozart or Bach. He will be remembered for his compositions long after we're gone. Film has replaced opera as the stage, but the music is no less incredible.
Others that'll probably be remembered well are Shore, Morricone, Zimmer.
So after the end of today's poll, we'll be right about the halfway point of the groups. Somewhere along the way I figured 64 entries would be more fun than 32, so 64 it will be.
At this point, we've got:
4 total entries with 60+% of the vote.
6 total entries with 50+% of the vote.
12 total entries with 40+% of the vote
19 total entries with 30+% of the vote
24 total entries with 20+% of the vote.
20% will likely be the lower end to make the field of 64. I doubt the top 4 is set yet, but more than likely the top 2 is - although Gladiator, The Two Towers, Return of the Jedi, and a few others are still in play.
I think my math holds that next Monday will be the last group day - but with 3 groups rather than 2. I'll try and seed the 64 on the weekend with placeholders for the last few entries, then it can kick off on Tuesday the 25th with the round of 64 - and per somebody's good suggestion on the other thread - those rounds will be 48 hours each for everyone to have a better chance.
This has been a lot of fun thus far. Appreciate all the contributions. Especially BES for being the bigger man and offering to bury the hatchet between he and I. He contributed the track list to at least 10 of these, including all three FOTR, Titanic, and the prequels. I remain decidedly the fatter man.
At this point, we've got:
4 total entries with 60+% of the vote.
6 total entries with 50+% of the vote.
12 total entries with 40+% of the vote
19 total entries with 30+% of the vote
24 total entries with 20+% of the vote.
20% will likely be the lower end to make the field of 64. I doubt the top 4 is set yet, but more than likely the top 2 is - although Gladiator, The Two Towers, Return of the Jedi, and a few others are still in play.
I think my math holds that next Monday will be the last group day - but with 3 groups rather than 2. I'll try and seed the 64 on the weekend with placeholders for the last few entries, then it can kick off on Tuesday the 25th with the round of 64 - and per somebody's good suggestion on the other thread - those rounds will be 48 hours each for everyone to have a better chance.
This has been a lot of fun thus far. Appreciate all the contributions. Especially BES for being the bigger man and offering to bury the hatchet between he and I. He contributed the track list to at least 10 of these, including all three FOTR, Titanic, and the prequels. I remain decidedly the fatter man.
(No homo)
Oh, I can think of a few others still lurking out there which should be Top 4 threats.MuckRaker96 said:
20% will likely be the lower end to make the field of 64. I doubt the top 4 is set yet, but more than likely the top 2 is - although Gladiator, The Two Towers, Return of the Jedi, and a few others are still in play.
When Superman's group comes up, the entire opening credits should be watched.
I dare anyone to vote against it after that.
Then again, knowing how this has gone so far, I just know it'll be up against a LOTR movie and I'll be forced to vote against it.
Damn this tournament!
I dare anyone to vote against it after that.
Then again, knowing how this has gone so far, I just know it'll be up against a LOTR movie and I'll be forced to vote against it.
Damn this tournament!
Hadn't heard Out of Africa before. Immediately, I'm thinking "wait, this sounds familiar." Yup, Moonraker. Then I thought, "bet this is a John Barry score." Right again.
Brian Earl Spilner said:
(No homo)
Our latest group winners:
Group K: The Dark Knight
Group L: E.T.
No changes to the top 4 projected seeds.
Groups M and N coming soon.
Group K: The Dark Knight
Group L: E.T.
No changes to the top 4 projected seeds.
Groups M and N coming soon.
For you enjoyment and voting pleasure, Groups M and N. Whoever nominated Die Hard did not list the names of the tracks, just parts of the movie, which I didn't realize until I started looking them up on YouTube, so I just took my best guesses on them.
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Group M
Blade Runner: 2049
Avatar
Once Upon a Time in the West
Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows Part II
Group N
The Living Daylights
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
Die Hard
Rogue One
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Group M
Blade Runner: 2049
Avatar
Once Upon a Time in the West
Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows Part II
Group N
The Living Daylights
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
Die Hard
Rogue One
Horner / Avatar
Underrated score.
Underrated score.
Also, unrelated to this voting: The Living Daylights is one of my favorite Bond themes.
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