I liked it.

The scene would have played better if the little girl was frightened and Diana went up to her to try to make her feel at ease.

I loved the movie overall but it definitely has its faults.

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It's all fun and games until Marvel introduces the Squadron Supreme, and they're more accepted than the JL

Squadron Supreme is basically just the JL but in the Marvel universe.

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Maybe it's just me but I've never heard of the Squadron Supreme. I can't imagine they are more well-known and accepted than the Justice League?

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She's a literal god who, seconds prior, vaporized the sh*t out of some dude in front of a bunch of children. And Snyder's/Terrio's first thought was to then immediately have one of those children ask her if she could "be like" her. It's the perfect microcosm of why so many people consider Snyder to be a bad storyteller. Because he hardly ever considers the context around decisions like that. Instead, everything is in service of a "badass" moment above all else. In his mind, in that scene, WW simply kicks ass, inspiring a little girl to want to be a strong, powerful woman when she grows up. Yet he fails to realize just how dumb it all plays as a whole, when the kicking ass includes, in front of children, the literal roasting of other human beings by a god, which that little girl literally could never be.

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Exactly. To my post earlier, this was just a dumb, laughable scene.

I agree, we got HBO because the kids wanted to watch Tom & Jerry. I found a few movies to watch over the month. But other than that, I wasn't too impressed with their selection. I won't be renewing.

THere was a variety article linked earlier, with the ceo of WarnerMedia
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/zack-snyder-justice-league-suicide-squad-ray-fisher-warnermedia-1234935580/

This person may very well drive it all in the right direction, but I think DC still doesn't really get it.
It's frustrating, because they should be able to have the same level of success bringing these stories to life that Marvel has.

Instead they seem to just be trying to copy what Marvel did, without really understanding WHY Marvel made any decisions they did and applying it to their own content.

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I agree, we got HBO because the kids wanted to watch Tom & Jerry. I found a few movies to watch over the month. But other than that, I wasn't too impressed with their selection. I won't be renewing.

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HBO is all about the tv series.

My wife and I have essentially missed all tv since we got married 14 years ago so it's worth it for us. We have enough tv to watch until our deaths.

They're not, but I feel like if Marvel makes a movie about them it'll go over better with the general public than the JL.

However they are a tad bit evil, if not morally grey.

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I agree, we got HBO because the kids wanted to watch Tom & Jerry. I found a few movies to watch over the month. But other than that, I wasn't too impressed with their selection. I won't be renewing.

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Now i want the Snyder Cut of Tom & Jerry.

Finally got to watch this.

To be blunt, I normally think most modern comic book movies are garbage with only a few exceptions like Joker and Avengers: Infinity War. I also did not enjoy MoS (respected it but didn't like it) and didn't watch BvS due to lack of interest at the time of its release (I still know the gist of what happened in BvS). So considering this, I'm shocked and happy to say that ZSJL amazed me. The story was simple but executed very well. It was very character-driven, so it really helped that all the characters were cool and fun to watch. The villain was pretty fascinating also. Visuals and action scenes were stunning. This whole movie felt oddly grounded yet fantastical at the same time. It's very unique and hard to put in words. It really reminded me of the time when I was younger and enjoyed the older comic movies.

I honestly thought the slo-mo's were really cool. I can see how some people think it's overdone, but I personally thought all the slo-mo scenes were awesome. Wonder Woman's chant theme got a little obnoxious at times, but honestly I could handle a little annoyance in an otherwise awesome movie lol.

I really hope they make a sequel to this, because I can most certainly say that I'm a fan now.

I believe that in the original draft she failed at getting the bomb out, which is a worse decision.

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Then you follow that scene up with some weird feminist pandering.

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It definitely is, but it bothered me less than the girl power scene in Endgame, honestly.

Admittedly both are pretty forced.

Agree thought her approach was weird there. Just take one more super step, steal his gun, and knock his ass out.

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She's a literal god who, seconds prior, vaporized the sh*t out of some dude in front of a bunch of children. And Snyder's/Terrio's first thought was to then immediately have one of those children ask her if she could "be like" her. It's the perfect microcosm of why so many people consider Snyder to be a bad storyteller. Because he hardly ever considers the context around decisions like that. Instead, everything is in service of a "badass" moment above all else. In his mind, in that scene, WW simply kicks ass, inspiring a little girl to want to be a strong, powerful woman when she grows up. Yet he fails to realize just how dumb it all plays as a whole, when the kicking ass includes, in front of children, the literal roasting of other human beings by a god, which that little girl literally could never be.

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The little girl and WW were the most believable part. It's baffling that all the other girls (or any of the other people there) actually got up and had smiles on their face.

And while it is dumb that a girl in the midst of trauma and who will have all sorts of PTSD asks that, I 100% believe that Gal Gadot WW would give that answer.

The best scenes in the movie, to me, were:

1) The Flash's run to save the day. Phasing through the explosion, calling back to the conversation with his dad in jail, running so fast that he turned back time (a staple of comic Flash), and the score was just.. chefs kiss. Coolest CBM moment for me. Ever. (I said it)

2) Superman's second First Flight with the voiceovers of his fathers, combined with Zimmer's theme. Chills.

Fat Bib Fortuna said:

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If DC really wants my money, they will let Snyder make the superman prequel starring Russell crowe as jor-El set entirely on krypton.

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Now that prologue is one of the cooler things ever in a comic book movie

https://www.ign.com/articles/snyder-cut-justice-league-10-slow-motion-slo-mo

Y'all weren't kidding! 10% of the film is slow-mo

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https://www.ign.com/articles/snyder-cut-justice-league-10-slow-motion-slo-mo

Y'all weren't kidding! 10% of the film is slow-mo

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honestly, that seems low

i've been watching for four days and still have an hour to go.

AgfromHOU said:

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The best scenes in the movie, to me, were:

1) The Flash's run to save the day. Phasing through the explosion, calling back to the conversation with his dad in jail, running so fast that he turned back time (a staple of comic Flash), and the score was just.. chefs kiss. Coolest CBM moment for me. Ever. (I said it)

2) Superman's second First Flight with the voiceovers of his fathers, combined with Zimmer's theme. Chills.

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The Flash moment at the end was definitely, undoubtedly, the coolest scene I've ever seen in comic movies. I still watch it from time to time. I don't think anything will ever top this for me in a long while.

https://www.small-screen.co.uk/zack-snyders-snyderverse-will-reportedly-carry-on-via-hbo-max/

Not sure if anything is confirmed, but there remains hope for Snyderverse to continue in HBO Max.

This would actually be a very smart play for them. It could be their new GoT.

I admittedly didn't look through TV, but I scrolled through the movies and only added a few to my watchlist. The ones you've listed I already own or have seen a million times. Or maybe their movie discovery interface isn't very good. I still feel like that's a streaming problem, no one has 100% nailed the interface.
So far with my month I've watched Tom & Jerry, Jo Jo Rabbit, Dunkirk, Justice League, and The Flight Attendant.

My unsolicited thoughts through Part 3 (starting part 4 tomorrow)

First, disclosure, I did not read comics as a child and still don't today. I have, however, very much enjoyed the comic/superhero movie genre starting with the days of Keaton's Batman, through Tobey Macquire (sp?) Spiderman and DEFINITELY enjoyed the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Nolan's Batman Begins was an incredible original take on a known character but beyond that I've been a little ho-hum on the DC cinematic offering thus far.


- First, I'm really annoyed by the pretentious choice to present this movie in 4:3. I read articles denofgeek link explaining why he did it... 1) characters by their stature are more vertical than horizontal... 2) loved the IMAX type of presentation that's more "box-y" than 16:9 or 2.35:1 and 3) wanted to present a movie in it's complete "IMAXI-ness".

I get it.. IMAX is big, but first, this movie isn' in IMAX... Neither in format, nor literally in the theaters... its at home on TV's. So as a viewer this really cheated the BIGness that this movie is supposedly supposed to be portraying. The thing about true IMAX presentation is that the width isn't cheated, instead it is adding height. But at home and in most theater houses, the height is fixed... so you add width pull the audiences in.

Every once in a while I'd forget it's format, but then like a nagging cough, I'd be reminded that there is content missing (which there isn't, but there is real estate unused). I'm typically a fan of the cinemascope for BIG cinematic feels, but understand the home viewing preference of 16:9. I can't for the life of me understand why 4:3 is supposed to "feel big".

- I think this movie is burdened by having to carry so much more story for each of these characters that previous films haven't had the opportunity to carry well... either because those films don't exist, or they were individually not strong stories. I think this means that each story within this release is more compelling and therefore more interesting, but burdens the movie and it's pacing. I'm enjoying the story unfolding so far, but I do feel like (only half way through) that the pacing feels slow. I see why so much of this perhaps hit the editing room floor... it would have never made the cinemas with this pacing and length.

- There are certain script moments or sound design moments that completely take me out of the story and remind me I'm an audience member watching a super hero movie, because they follow the super hero tropes that have been in use since the first spider man. The cyborg sound effects and motherbox sound effects are very textbook of a super hero sound and I just feel like they are taking me out of story. The eye-roll moments of the girl (as has been mentioned above) wanting to be "just like Diana" is self-unaware.

- why does Bruce Wayne have to talk like he's hoarse? Every since Christian Bale took this approach, it seems this is synonymous with Bruce Wayne. I much preferred the calm collected and GQ approach of Val Kilmer or even Michael Keaton (even Clooney?). I understand why Bale was doing it, perhaps to disguise his voice when Batman, but Affleck is doing it with Ezra Millers Flash with no reason to hide his voice.

- Felt the Flash's first full hero scene with the girl crash was a complete rip-off of Marvel's Xmen Quicksilver from DOFP. I guess it's ok, cause its the best depiction of that super power ever... but a complete rip-off right down to the chill music background?? come on.

- So far, frankly, it's less that I'm bothered by this movie, because aside from the 4:3 ratio selection (ugh), it is very super-hero-movie typical and very on-brand for that... the more notable sentiment is the fact that I'm blown away with what Kevin Feige has done with the MCU. this isn't the thread for that gushing, but it is completely a fair comparison... can't help it.

I look forward to finishing this movie and if i have any additional thoughts, I'll share them for you to ignore.



TL;DR - half-way through, non-comic reader
-boo on 4:3,
-too much story to tell making it long,
-script and sound design is cheesy,
-Bruce Wayne should be more GQ and not hoarse,
-quicksilver rip-off for Flash,
-recognition of Kevin Feige's insane accomplishments.

Cancelled HBO max after JL and a few other shows I just watched nothing on there that interesting for me either.

Hbo doesn't exactly put out content at the rate of Netflix to keep permanently. Netflix I would even cancel but wife always finds and kid loves one of the shows there.