Overall, I like this theory, but it seems weird that Erin would pick one assh*le kid over another, just because his parents were nice, when Mare/her mom/Siobhan (holy crap, that's how you spell her name?) could have raised the baby just as well Dylan's parents.
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Overall, I like this theory, but it seems weird that Erin would pick one assh*le kid over another, just because his parents were nice, when Mare/her mom/Siobhan (holy crap, that's how you spell her name?) could have raised the baby just as well Dylan's parents.
Well again... if the relationship was secret even from Carrie the other mother. She also might have thought it too much of a burden. Add in that she likely didn't like Mare because of what Kevin said about her which we know was nothing positive.
All good points.
So Mare would essentially have to give up one grandkid, but would then get another.
So Mare would essentially have to give up one grandkid, but would then get another.
Also... didn't Siobahn while working on the video (or Mare) say something about someone else being with Kevin when he killed himself but that person was not fully visible and they did not know who it was?
I recall something like that. It would work if it was Erin and nobody knew.
EDIT - found it. in ep. 3 Siobahn while narrating for her video project says: A month before he killed himself Kevin left the house one morning no note nothing a burnt waffle in the toaster. 2 days later he sent me this video and he says something at the end but it gets cut off. He and Carrie were not getting along then, so I always wondered who he was with.
So it was nearly a month before he killed himself. Still it would work.
Just for ****s and giggles I googled that date. It was Memorial Day, and Tiger Woods was arrested. That's all I got.Zombie Jon Snow said:
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So do others agree that Erin's killer and Katie/girl #3 abductors are different people?
Ready for my new much narrower prediction. I have eliminated several suspects from my bigger list last week
the missing girl Katie - obviously not
Dawn Bailey - no she was tied up in her own issues
Freddie - ditto
Dawn - no
several others just moved to a lot less likely
Siobahn - doubtful
Dylan's parents (one or both) - doubtful
Father Dan - doubtful
Officer Trammel - mia, so doubtful
Carrie Leyden - doubtful
Faye - doubtful
Lori Ross- doubtful
And since I seriously doubt the actual suspects are involved - Deacon, Kenny, Dylan and Frank - that leaves only these few and a theory I developed
Billy Ross
Richard
Det. Zabel
I now believe the 2 abductions and the murder of Erin are related - but why was she dead and not the others?
1. remember Erin told her dad that Dylan said he would pay for the operation but we know he did not. So that means Erin knew how she was going to get the money and we found that out this week.
2. and now we got the reveal that Erin had a secret sex website but in disguise.
I believe Erin was going to pay for the surgery finally by prostituting herself and after getting beat up she maybe called Deacon Mark and maybe he even gave her a ride somewhere (thus had her bike) but she had reached out and arranged to meet someone from the online thing.
The third girl was kidnapped this week a little over a year since Katie Bailey but I believe Erin was supposed to be that second girl. What went wrong and why is she dead??? Because the person she met through the website hookup knew her. But did not recognize her in the disguised profile as Jasmine I think it was.
That leads me to, most likely, Billy Ross - one of the people we know the least about. We don't know what he does for a living (does he own Bennie's perhaps), we don't know what he drives ( a van maybe), we don't know where he lives as we only see him at Kenny or John's places or elsewhere.
And then this is just projection - but this story reminds me of "Kiss the Girls" with Morgan Freeman and Ashley Judd - where two bicoastal creeps competed on kidnapping girls. And one was a cop played by Cary Elwes. For whatever reason I think two will be involved here in the ritual sexual abuse of their victims. The second could be Zabel the cop who conveniently shows up here to help investigate. Or it could be Richard who also just showed up here. I believe you'll see suspicion over both Richard and Zabel at some point but both will have alibis for one or more of the incidents (in fact Richards has alibis for Erin and maybe this most recent one too but not for Katie Bailey). Zabel we don't know yet. Billy we have no clue. But likely does for one but not all.
One of them came to town to maybe escalate things here and take another prisoner. Maybe Katie is all used up she was looking rather haggard. They might be about to dump her and kill her and doing that in front of the new prisoner might be a way to keep her in line. Speculation there. Could be several reasons to take another prisoner now. There could be missing girls from further away that are already dead - who knows how long this has gone on.
My gut says Billy Ross and Richard.
All subject to change next week - lol.
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So do others agree that Erin's killer and Katie/girl #3 abductors are different people?
No. See above. But why do you think that if you do?
For all we know, there is a Neighbor Watch Alliance that is eliminating anyone that doesn't conform to their standards and puts Easttown in a bad light.
The preview for the final three episodes does show a hint that supports your theory. The hint might be a misdirection in the editing, but they show Bobby Ross' face then show someone putting a gun in the tackle box.
The girls being in Bennie's Tavern follows Zabel story of how he found the missing girl in his case, she was located at the place the kidnapper worked. Wasn't there a story/mention of someone previously owning a bar, or am I thinking of another show?
Another theory, Jess, Dylan, and that another dude (the three standing above someone in a previous preview) set up a prostitution ring, realize the mistake, and are trying to eliminate the people that could turn them in
The girls being in Bennie's Tavern follows Zabel story of how he found the missing girl in his case, she was located at the place the kidnapper worked. Wasn't there a story/mention of someone previously owning a bar, or am I thinking of another show?
Another theory, Jess, Dylan, and that another dude (the three standing above someone in a previous preview) set up a prostitution ring, realize the mistake, and are trying to eliminate the people that could turn them in
I didn't see the sneak peek or preview thanks for the info.
I can't imagine they casted Guy Pearce to solely play a seldom seen courter of Mare.
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So long as they're doing it for the Greater Good.tk for tu juan said:
For all we know, there is a Neighbor Watch Alliance that is eliminating anyone that doesn't conform to their standards and puts Easttown in a bad light.
I just watched and freeze framed that preview scene with Billy Ross.
It is a fishing tackle box and he isn't putting a gun in there, the gun is already in there. He has some blue thing with other markings and colorings - a decorative i don't know like bandana, sock, rag, something. The gun, a lighter (Eagles logo) and lures and fishing line are also visible.
The voiceover is Lori Ross saying "When you asked me before I didn't know. I swear I didn't know." and Mare saying "didn't know what?"
The other thing revealed in the promo is some witness to the abduction or the guys van anyway and her saying he smoked Winstons. And Zabel and Mare in some rundown place seeing a pack of Winstons on the table.
I went back to the beginning of episode 4 when Mare and Lori are on a park bench talking. Mare is smoking an actual cigarette but hands the pack back to Lori saying not to give her one if she asks again, and it was a pack of Winstons just like in the preview shot on the table. Hmmm... my suspicions about Ross's might be valid or a misdirection.
I'd be willing to bet all of the Ross's smoke Winstons though but I never saw Billy or John smoking. The only other person I recall being shown smoking cigarettes prominently was Carrie.
The dude in the car with Dylan telling Jess they are three bound together forever was the dude filming the attack on Erin in the woods in ep. 1. So that's a weird one - but might be misdirection and something else entirely.
SIAP but how many episodes can we expect? And will there be multiple seasons or is this 1 and done?
Seven episodes total - so three left - and it was conceived as a limited, one-season series, but if popular enough I guess they could keep going (a la Big Little Lies), but it would be a whole new case.
I listened to yesterday's watch pod and they mentioned that Kate said she would play Mare again.
Nice. Was literally about to give that episode a listen.
I'd have to watch again to look for for the answer to this, but I'm wondering...do we know for certain that Mare's son actually killed himself? Could it have been a murder that was made to look like a suicide? And, that's part of all of this?
Mare hands over a pack of Marlboro Lights, not Winstons.
I keep hearing that tonight is a big episode...
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Well **** man
I've got the warm fuzzies
I've got the warm fuzzies
Wow, I need a beer. Just glad there was a brief funny portion to break up the episode
I sad.
Those final 10 minutes were something
Mare needs to make a call to the bullpen to wrap up the McMenamin case.
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Wow....damn.
My instinct about Billy Ross was not totally off.....pretty sure he is the dad of DJ now. Whether he is more involved TBD.
But as soon as they showed this van dude in his doorway before we even saw the sign I told my wife "I just got a total Silence of the Lambs Jamie Gumb vibe like when he answered the door for Clarice."
We got 2 episodes left here so....something is up still. My theory I posted before was about 2 perps working together. Obviously van dude was one of them. I'm still suspecting another.
Well and now we have Dylan and Erin's "friend" covering stuff up so I'm starting to think the website they showed the cops was a fake one and she had a different secret identity account. So they could mislead the cops.
And where was Richard??!?!?!?! Suspiciously absent from the episode.
I also believe Deacon Mark just gave her a ride to that park - she was meeting someone.
It's wild how wide open up the plot still is while turning the missing girls case essentially into a mid season detour.
The Erin case isn't going to be tied to this guy who abducted the other two girls, that seems pretty obvious. They tied up the missing girls storyline and are going to focus on Erin. Sure does seem like they're hinting heavily at both Dylan and the uncle she lived with.
My prediction is that the Dylan storyline is him trying to get rid of any writing that pointed to the true father of DJ, because he wants to raise him as his son. That said, I don't see the motive from the uncle to murder Erin.
My prediction is that the Dylan storyline is him trying to get rid of any writing that pointed to the true father of DJ, because he wants to raise him as his son. That said, I don't see the motive from the uncle to murder Erin.
Brutal ending. But yeah, I think it is most likely one of the Ross cousins. I think it could be John vs Billy, and Billy's guilt/panic in this episodd may be from what he knows about John. But for a wild card, don't rule out Lori.
A bit silence of the lambs, but really great tv anyway.
I do not think I've ever cheered about a kid taking a lunch tray to another kid's head, until tonight
Fantastic episode. Wow.
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