Where my Houston peeps seeing this at since we won't get it in 70mm?

There’s no fat on #Oppenheimer at all. It’s a long one but the pace of the rich narrative is perfect. It’s hard to single people out but Downey Jr. and Ehrenreich are insanely good and pure alchemy together. The sound and production design, as well as the score, are impeccable. pic.twitter.com/KWPdxheRNW

— Simon Thompson (@ShowbizSimon) July 11, 2023

This is the movie I'm most looking forward to this summer, but I wonder if it'll hit differently than it is meant to if you are in the camp that finds our use of the bombs against Japan fully justified. If the movie was made expressly to condemn their use against fascist Japan, it's going to be spectacular but also misleading.

I'm basically levitating at how incredible and unprecedented the next week-and-a-half of movie going is about to be.

With *this* movie, after *these* reactions, as my number one anticipated (among Dead Reckoning and Barbie).

LFG.

Cliff.Booth said:

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This is the movie I'm most looking forward to this summer, but I wonder if it'll hit differently than it is meant to if you are in the camp that finds our use of the bombs against Japan fully justified. If the movie was made expressly to condemn their use against fascist Japan, it's going to be spectacular but also misleading.

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My guess is it walks a fine line. Horrifying and world-changing, but also necessary, at least in the moment.

I hope Oppenheimer is as good as it is should be. Asteroid City was mediocre, as was IJ. I can't figure out what Barbie is going for or if I'll enjoy it, and MI is always fun but rarely wows me.

Yeah, I'm hoping it's mostly just an engrossing look at what happened and how it happened and not stretching the truth of how it was perceived at the moment. Modern people with a lack of historical background on Japan's ideology and many horrific crimes give them far too much sympathy.

OPPENHEIMER is one of if not Nolan’s best work. And that comes from a huge Nolan admirer. I’ve see it twice. Impeccable immersive filmmaking of the highest order. Cillian Murphy gets the role he deserves. In love with Downey’s work. This one demands your attention.

— Josh Horowitz (@joshuahorowitz) July 11, 2023

#Oppenheimer is staggering in every sense of the word. Might sound nuts to say this about a Chris Nolan movie that isn't INCEPTION, DUNKIRK, or even TENET, but this could be his most formally daring work yet. Sharp script, impeccable sound design, and Cillian Murphy is a *force*

— Jeremy Mathai (@Somthin_Tookish) July 11, 2023

I think #Oppenheimer is Nolan’s JFK. And I LOVE LOVE LOVE JFK. Cillian Murphy mesmerizes in a star-studded moral quandary about Scientific Theory becoming deadly fact. The entire cast is outstanding, and while the history is DENSE, it’s Nolan’s most streamlined and accessible. pic.twitter.com/S8B2wAgzEb

— Sean O'Connell (@Sean_OConnell) July 11, 2023

If it is truly "Nolan's JFK" that confirms my fear stated above.

Nolan has said that the color footage is told from Oppenheimer's perspective, while the black-and-white footage is told from other individuals' perspective, after the fact. That's why I think we get both arguments here. I don't think it's just going to be a one dimensional "nukes bad" kind of thing.

It's just hard to preach on this issue without providing context. Is it a) Japan terrorized the Pacific for over a decade, committing truly unspeakable acts against millions, with a regime that refused to surrender even when in an unwinnable war or b) Japan was in a war against the US and the US chose to nuke civilians for funsies.

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We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." I suppose we all thought that one way or another.

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Im ready for this movie.

#Oppenheimer is my film of the year.

Christopher Nolan makes 3 hours fly in stunning form. Cillian Murphy and Robert Downey Jr. are incredibly strong.

The story is chilling in the tragic sense of World War II’s lack of humanity and on intimate human levels.

Stunning and scary. pic.twitter.com/TkxJeGfd5E

— BD (@BrandonDavisBD) July 11, 2023

Next Thursday can't get here soon enough

k20dub said:

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Where my Houston peeps seeing this at since we won't get it in 70mm?

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AMC Gulf Pointe 30 has a 70mm showing, just not IMAX. That would be my recommendation.

TCTTS said:

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Read the room. We have a thread for more appropriate for things like this.

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Just some background info on the subject..

It's ok dude, he isn't a mod.

He has a history of posting UFO stuff all over the board, in the most forced/awkward ways possible. And I created a thread specifically for UFO stuff, partly out of an effort to keep all of his stuff focused to one place. That's all I'm saying. Also, I'm hardly the first to complain.

You made a full ass thread to keep this guy hemmed in?

No. Hence my use of the word "partly." As in, I did it mainly for my own interests, but also so we could talk about his stuff in a dedicated thread.

Well, it didn't work, bud.

Cliff.Booth said:

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Well, it didn't work, bud.

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Ok, thanks.

Unfortunately it's probably going to be the exact opposite. A quiet moment during one of the 40 times that the camera is panning in on Oppenheimer realizing that he's working on a big ass bomb and that militaries like to use big ass bombs on targets and you're suddenly gonna hear that damn Ken ballad thumping through the wall.

You're welcome.

Also, there should be some time devoted to the morality of dropping an atomic bomb because that is a big part of the Manhattan Project, and even Truman. It's cheap and easy to say "America, **** yeah," but this was a truly historic decision that has not been made since. Truman often had to justify the decision, it's a part of the story.

I think a lot of that stuff comes in the black-and-white footage, spliced throughout the movie.

It definitely is part of the story, but I hope the movie helps reinforce why the decision made was the best decision and doesn't try to pander to "America is the villain" Hollywood tendency.

Oppenheimer himself seems to be making that argument in the trailers. The pushback will of course come from the suits in the black-and-white footage, and those warning Oppenheimer in the lead up to the first destination, but I don't see the "pro-bomb" POV being absent from the movie. There's also the scene from the trailer of a general saying something like, "We can end the war and our boys will come home," as if he's pro-bomb, not to mention Damon's character likely/ultimately being pro-bomb as well. In other words, there's no way that side isn't heard loud and clear. I just think in the end, like some Nolan movies, it's not going to come down on one side or the other. It'll be left up to the audience to decide.