This would have been the opportunity to do that IMO, so no - Thor ain't going anywhere for a while.

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Holy **** this movie sucked. Far worse than Ragnarok (which i also thought sucked). The only saving grace was Bale's acting and the GNR soundtrack. More Disney forced gayness that didn't need to be involved just for another turd in the punch bowl.

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dang dude….everyone knows my thoughts on Ragnarok and even I wouldn't go that far.

The Jane + cancer stuff actually worked for me because I thought that they were gonna chicken out and have some twist of, "oooooooooo the magic of Mjinor is so awesome it cured your cancer" or some crap…..but nope…..Jane Fonda is dead and in Valhalla….

The kids getting to share Thors power I thought was actually pretty cool and as far as it being a deux-ex-Mach-whatever I feel you could make the argument that since these were "gods kids" is what made it possible….

I agree with the posters who've commented on that the GOTG scenes seemed choppy and that Gorr definitely need more time showing us he's evil killing off some other gods….

And I gotta say….Russel Crowe was annoying as Zeus….not sure what he was going for with that accent but dang that was distracting….

The ending was a really nice wrap of it all with Love & Thunder and Gorr choosing to wish his daughter back alive was a good way to wrap it up….just would've meant a lot more if we'd seen him go through more suffering and evil to really get caught up in his characters change at the end…

And yes the humor was forced a lot of times….the scene where Valkyrie is chatting with Jodie Foster with the different weapons she's bringing and she shows that her "hand grenade" is a music player….man….it was very clear that they let that scene play on due to expecting the audience to laugh and not a peep in my theatre….

Darcy's appearance seemed to "pause for audience reaction" and my theater was silent. But I'm glad they were able to fit her and Selvig in in a way that felt natural.

Thor L&T seems like the bridge between 1, 2 and 3. Makes 2 suck a little less since Jane matters, and the suddenness of their split in 3 a little less jarring.

My wife and I both groaned loudly when she showed up

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Cromagnum said:

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Holy **** this movie sucked. Far worse than Ragnarok (which i also thought sucked). The only saving grace was Bale's acting and the GNR soundtrack. More Disney forced gayness that didn't need to be involved just for another turd in the punch bowl.

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dang dude….everyone knows my thoughts on Ragnarok and even I wouldn't go that far.

The Jane + cancer stuff actually worked for me because I thought that they were gonna chicken out and have some twist of, "oooooooooo the magic of Mjinor is so awesome it cured your cancer" or some crap…..but nope…..Jane Fonda is dead and in Valhalla….

The kids getting to share Thors power I thought was actually pretty cool and as far as it being a deux-ex-Mach-whatever I feel you could make the argument that since these were "gods kids" is what made it possible….

I agree with the posters who've commented on that the GOTG scenes seemed choppy and that Gorr definitely need more time showing us he's evil killing off some other gods….

And I gotta say….Russel Crowe was annoying as Zeus….not sure what he was going for with that accent but dang that was distracting….

The ending was a really nice wrap of it all with Love & Thunder and Gorr choosing to wish his daughter back alive was a good way to wrap it up….just would've meant a lot more if we'd seen him go through more suffering and evil to really get caught up in his characters change at the end…

And yes the humor was forced a lot of times….the scene where Valkyrie is chatting with Jodie Foster with the different weapons she's bringing and she shows that her "hand grenade" is a music player….man….it was very clear that they let that scene play on due to expecting the audience to laugh and not a peep in my theatre….

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Ragnarok is a top 3 Mcu for me … but I pretty much agree with all these comments on L&T

100%. Perfect analogy.

Some of this could be fixed with casting. Hopefully they can at least consult showrunners from the tv side.

They've majorly improved the Diversity of the MCU.

Careful, though, in the other thread I dare made the mistake of posting a similar tweet calling out Big Studio/Marvel, as it relates to overworked VFX artists, and a number of nut jobs came out of the woodwork, as if I had just delivered some kind of anti-capitalism manifesto.

was listening to The Big Pic pod about it and was reminded of how great the black and white scenes in the shadow realm looked.

How was it cheap in regards to anything budget/production related? I could get fast food as in fun but unhealthy/unfulfilling but I thought it looked pretty great throughout.

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was listening to The Big Pic pod about it and was reminded of how great the black and white scenes in the shadow realm looked.

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I listened to most of that ep as well, before I saw the movie, and I was honestly expecting some kind of ground-breaking look/tech I had never seen before, based on how much they fawned over that sequence. Joanna literally compared the new technology to the introduction of bullet time in The Matrix. So I kept waiting for some super cool effect to show up during that sequence, yet it never did. It was just... a flight in black and white. Yes, it looked nice, and I appreciate the effort, but I did not at all get what Joanna and Sean were going on about.

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My theater cheered when she showed up and I felt immediate embarrassment for even being there. I don't dislike the character, but it was almost like there was a sign above the screen that lit up, saying "Cheer Marvel Sheep!" and everyone did just that. It's usually super fun when the crowd's super into it, but every so often it can feel like robots cheering because they're programmed to.

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I don't even know who y'all are referring to when the cheering happened for what character…..was it the side kick nerdy chick that visited Jane while she was getting chemo?

Yes. Darcy. From the first two Thor movies, along with WandVision.

As an executive, I'm sure you are aware of the importance.

Saw it this afternoon with the rib. Had zero expectations and read nothing about it beforehand. Not the best Thor effort. Still fun, though. Crowe as Zeus was hilarious, especially the steps scene.

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#ThorLoveAndThunder amplifies a declining production quality for Marvel.

Everything felt cheap, like fast-food. Yet, it had largest budget for Thor.

Hollywood is favoring content over cinema, overworking VFX artists and diluting quality. Until fans demand better, it won’t stop.

— Sheraz Farooqi (@SherazFarooqi_) July 10, 2022

MCU feels like "fast food" in phase 4 besides no way home

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I largely agree. No Way Home was nails. Black Widow and Dr Strange: MoM were both middle of the road but still a fun ride. I didn't really care for the Disney + Shows all that much, save for Loki. I have not seen Moon Knight. Eternals was dookie. Shang Chi was fun but also kind of forgettable.

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For example, terminally ill dude could get any wish in the universe, so he decides to die and let his mortal enemy to raise his undead daughter. This not make sense within the context of the film.

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I don't know, I thought the movie set up that decision well. Sure, you might think that after all his time butchering gods (which we saw little of, unfortunately), his main motivation would switch to killing other gods. But I don't think it's a plot hole to say that his mind was changed after he was released from the corruption of the sword.

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Moreover, this option has been available since IW. At any point in time, Thor could have used Stormbreaker to undo the Snap or solve a multitude of other problems.

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I assume you're talking about the fact that Stormbreaker could open a portal directly to Eternity? I think it's pretty clear that no one knew that until Portman saw Gorr's drawings.

I'm not trying to defend the movie too much. I thought it was fine just like almost everything put out in Phase 4 thus far. But I don't think your two examples were plot holes.

Also, I'll agree that the GOTG scenes felt choppy. Sure, it makes sense that Thor went back to be with those folks after Endgame, but I think they should've handled them separating a little better. Or just featured the GOTG scenes less early on.

And I will still say that they need to get going with connecting these movies and shows together towards a bigger picture. It's fine if they want to give everyone a chance to catch their breath after the conclusion of Endgame. And I'm totally fine with standalone stories. But it's now been over 3 years since Endgame, and most of these standalone stories are just okay. Either do the standalones and make them good in their own right, or start connecting things together to help prop up movies/shows that are kind of weak on their own.

Another MCU money grabber I won't watch. Not a single thing about the trailer spoke to me

After seeing that trailer, I didn't know if I was supposed to be high to watch that, I didn't know if it was meant to be campy, didn't know if it was meant to be taken seriously. It was all over the place. Completely uninterested