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*** THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER *** (Spoiler Thread)
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Another reasonable, non-hysterical post!TCTTS said:
When the vast majority of people who are aware of TexAgs think of F16 as a joke, if not a stain on this website and Aggies as a whole. It's not just me either, and it's not just the "libs." It's most rational-thinking people who don't define themselves by and see the world through the ridiculously skewed political prism that frequenters of F16 do.
You're more than welcome to see/read for yourself, or have any number of conversations about F16 with Ags in the real world. Again, just stating facts.
The vast, vast majority of Aggies have no clue about F16 or what that means. That's a fact.TCTTS said:
You're more than welcome to see/read for yourself, or have any number of conversations about F16 with Ags in the real world. Again, just stating facts.
And I never said they did. I was purposefully specific in my wording in saying "the vast majority of the people who are aware of TexAgs..."
TCTTS said:ramblin_ag02 said:
I don't get the outpouring of admiration for Bale's performance. He was good, but he was barely on screen and spent more time fighting than acting. He had the same Marvel villian problem as most the others: 5 minutes of backstory and 20 minutes of screentime. I'd have watched an entire disney+ prequel movie about him leading his band of worshippers, getting wiped out, and ending with his daughter dying the in the desert. At least then I would have given two shakes about his character. They could have even thrown in some stuff about the NecroSword so it wasn't just explained away as they went along.
So far the only villians we've had in the movies are Thanos, Loki and Wanda that weren't one-note, one-offs.
It really is weird how, in a universe of 30+ connected movies, along with hours and hours of further connected shows, so many of the villains are so short-changed and basically one-off obstacles more than they are actual characters. When this is the *perfect* format to be developing and evolving multiple villains across multiple movies/shows.
To get this thread back on track, I would absolutely watch Disney+ prelude movies on how Thanos became the Thanos that wants to kill off half the universe. Or showing Gorr as a "Job-like" figure who actually did give up on his God and decide to kill all the gods. Or Hela riding alongside Odin in battle after battle until Odin saw she had become too blood thirsty and banished her to Hell.
I don't know how many Ags you talk to on a weekly basis but I live in Aggieland and interact with hundreds of Aggies on a weekly basis and I can't recall a single conversation with anyone aware of TexAgs about F16, ever. And I used to post on that board quite a bit. And I was a POLS major at A&M. And I stay in contact from time to time with some of my POLS classmates. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet that it wasn't even an F16 poster that brought up F16 in this thread.TCTTS said:
And I never said they did. I was purposefully specific in my wording in saying "the vast majority of the people who are aware of TexAgs..."
FL_Ag1998 said:TCTTS said:ramblin_ag02 said:
I don't get the outpouring of admiration for Bale's performance. He was good, but he was barely on screen and spent more time fighting than acting. He had the same Marvel villian problem as most the others: 5 minutes of backstory and 20 minutes of screentime. I'd have watched an entire disney+ prequel movie about him leading his band of worshippers, getting wiped out, and ending with his daughter dying the in the desert. At least then I would have given two shakes about his character. They could have even thrown in some stuff about the NecroSword so it wasn't just explained away as they went along.
So far the only villians we've had in the movies are Thanos, Loki and Wanda that weren't one-note, one-offs.
It really is weird how, in a universe of 30+ connected movies, along with hours and hours of further connected shows, so many of the villains are so short-changed and basically one-off obstacles more than they are actual characters. When this is the *perfect* format to be developing and evolving multiple villains across multiple movies/shows.
To get this thread back on track, I would absolutely watch Disney+ prelude movies on how Thanos became the Thanos that wants to kill off half the universe. Or showing Gorr as a "Job-like" figure who actually did give up on his God and decide to kill all the gods. Or Hela riding alongside Odin in battle after battle until Odin saw she had become too blood thirsty and banished her to Hell.
Same. I actually think those types of Disney+ MCU shows would be WAY more interesting than what we've had so far, Loki being the exception (which remains my favorite Disney+ series by far). I don't know if I'm super into the whole prequel idea - though in some instances that would totally work - but I do love the idea of using a Disney+ series to properly set-up a villain for that villain's run in the movies going forward.
I had mentioned in this thread earlier that I think Gorr was wasted on a single movie. He is a more compelling villain than most of the others we've seen.ramblin_ag02 said:
I don't get the outpouring of admiration for Bale's performance. He was good, but he was barely on screen and spent more time fighting than acting. He had the same Marvel villian problem as most the others: 5 minutes of backstory and 20 minutes of screentime. I'd have watched an entire disney+ prequel movie about him leading his band of worshippers, getting wiped out, and ending with his daughter dying the in the desert. At least then I would have given two shakes about his character. They could have even thrown in some stuff about the NecroSword so it wasn't just explained away as they went along.
So far the only villians we've had in the movies are Thanos, Loki and Wanda that weren't one-note, one-offs.
Personally, I wouldn't be very interested in a villain prequel series unless we knew that villain would stick around for a while. Thanos is dead, I don't really need more of him. Nor would I want 6 episodes of Gorr if his movie appearance only gets 20 minutes of screen time.
FL_Ag1998 said:TCTTS said:ramblin_ag02 said:
I don't get the outpouring of admiration for Bale's performance. He was good, but he was barely on screen and spent more time fighting than acting. He had the same Marvel villian problem as most the others: 5 minutes of backstory and 20 minutes of screentime. I'd have watched an entire disney+ prequel movie about him leading his band of worshippers, getting wiped out, and ending with his daughter dying the in the desert. At least then I would have given two shakes about his character. They could have even thrown in some stuff about the NecroSword so it wasn't just explained away as they went along.
So far the only villians we've had in the movies are Thanos, Loki and Wanda that weren't one-note, one-offs.
It really is weird how, in a universe of 30+ connected movies, along with hours and hours of further connected shows, so many of the villains are so short-changed and basically one-off obstacles more than they are actual characters. When this is the *perfect* format to be developing and evolving multiple villains across multiple movies/shows.
To get this thread back on track, I would absolutely watch Disney+ prelude movies on how Thanos became the Thanos that wants to kill off half the universe. Or showing Gorr as a "Job-like" figure who actually did give up on his God and decide to kill all the gods. Or Hela riding alongside Odin in battle after battle until Odin saw she had become too blood thirsty and banished her to Hell.
Check out Thanos: Titan Consumed, I listened to the audiobook and it was pretty good.
https://www.amazon.com/MARVELs-Avengers-Infinity-Thanos-Consumed/dp/031648251X/ref=nodl_?dplnkId=be645d97-2208-46d9-b9ba-06d3d13723eb
Belton Ag said:I don't know how many Ags you talk to on a weekly basis but I live in Aggieland and interact with hundreds of Aggies on a weekly basis and I can't recall a single conversation with anyone aware of TexAgs about F16, ever. And I used to post on that board quite a bit. And I was a POLS major at A&M. And I stay in contact from time to time with some of my POLS classmates. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet that it wasn't even an F16 poster that brought up F16 in this thread.TCTTS said:
And I never said they did. I was purposefully specific in my wording in saying "the vast majority of the people who are aware of TexAgs..."
I don't know what to tell you, other than I've had multiple conversations with Aggies about TexAgs/F16. Maybe it's because I know people who run/ran the site, and some of the people I talk to know the same people as well. And contrary to what some here might think, I wasn't the one who brought up F16 either. But also, when they pop up, go peruse reddit threads, look at various Twitter threads, etc. People by and large are embarrassed by F16, and I've seen it mocked over and over again over the years.
But even outside of all of that, it's just an objectively hateful place. I'm not saying most of the opinions shared there are even "wrong" - I agree with the core of a lot of what is said - I'm just saying the way in which so many of those opinions are expressed is so incredibly hateful, vile, and deranged. Every other thread is basically an airing of grievances, amped up to comical proportions, and it's just gross to watch, that's all. And I've never understood why that's such a controversial take.
To each his own. I enjoy F16 and love this board.
tomtomdrumdrum said:FL_Ag1998 said:TCTTS said:ramblin_ag02 said:
I don't get the outpouring of admiration for Bale's performance. He was good, but he was barely on screen and spent more time fighting than acting. He had the same Marvel villian problem as most the others: 5 minutes of backstory and 20 minutes of screentime. I'd have watched an entire disney+ prequel movie about him leading his band of worshippers, getting wiped out, and ending with his daughter dying the in the desert. At least then I would have given two shakes about his character. They could have even thrown in some stuff about the NecroSword so it wasn't just explained away as they went along.
So far the only villians we've had in the movies are Thanos, Loki and Wanda that weren't one-note, one-offs.
It really is weird how, in a universe of 30+ connected movies, along with hours and hours of further connected shows, so many of the villains are so short-changed and basically one-off obstacles more than they are actual characters. When this is the *perfect* format to be developing and evolving multiple villains across multiple movies/shows.
To get this thread back on track, I would absolutely watch Disney+ prelude movies on how Thanos became the Thanos that wants to kill off half the universe. Or showing Gorr as a "Job-like" figure who actually did give up on his God and decide to kill all the gods. Or Hela riding alongside Odin in battle after battle until Odin saw she had become too blood thirsty and banished her to Hell.
Check out Thanos: Titan Consumed, I listened to the audiobook and it was pretty good.
https://www.amazon.com/MARVELs-Avengers-Infinity-Thanos-Consumed/dp/031648251X/ref=nodl_?dplnkId=be645d97-2208-46d9-b9ba-06d3d13723eb
Thanks will do. And I did read the Thanos 6 or 7 part comics series that came out not long before his arc in the MCU really kicked in. That absolutely gave me an appreciation for him as a big bad villain.
And that's what I envision for a prequel movie on Disney plus. Those fans who are super into the MCU and want to know more about the villains before the movies (i.e. my son and I) would absolutely watch that and no doubt appreciate the actual hero films even more. The casual fans who just wanna be entertained for a couple hours wouldn't have to worry about it (i.e. my wife).
Do you think they gay rock lava baby making process was hot?
imjustsayin said:
Do you think they gay rock lava baby making process was hot?
Hot and eventually hard
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You haven't been paying attention much then. Obviously there are gay people in real life.AgfromHOU said:
Being gay/having gay characters isn't propaganda. HTH.
But when Disney is now making it a point to include gay characters in their films it reaches a point where it's obvious they're trying to normalize it and people just want the story. It doesn't matter that that usually has nothing to do with the storyline or that it's overrepresented in their films compared to society (unless you live in Portland or some other lib cesspool), it's gotta be in there anyways.
I prefer to have story come first. But now Disney is changing the story to accommodate their gay agenda. Korg is gay because all members of his species are male? Nope.
In Ragnarok Korg says, "Ah, well, I tried to start a revolution, but didn't print enough pamphlets. So hardly anyone turned up, except for my mum and her boyfriend, who I hate."
People here say it was only 5 seconds, like you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you can fit it in 5 seconds. Never mind that it comes up in multiple 5 second segments in film after film now.
The Collective said:imjustsayin said:
Do you think they gay rock lava baby making process was hot?
Hot and eventually hard
Not just hard, volcanic tuff
FTR, the goats made the movie....
Damnit, because of this thread the Ad at the bottom of the page was a link to "8 Celebs You Didn't Know Were Gay"!
See! It's happening already! Thanks Disney!
See! It's happening already! Thanks Disney!
Thank you. This seems to be the part that goes completely over the heads of those who say it isn't happening or it's not a big deal. Disney execs are literally on film saying they are cramming their movies with this stuff, which is fine if they're telling a story about gays. Thor is not a story about gays, nor is Star Wars.TexAgs91 said:You haven't been paying attention much then. Obviously there are gay people in real life.AgfromHOU said:
Being gay/having gay characters isn't propaganda. HTH.
But when Disney is now making it a point to include gay characters in their films it reaches a point where it's obvious they're trying to normalize it and people just want the story. It doesn't matter that that usually has nothing to do with the storyline or that it's overrepresented in their films compared to society (unless you live in Portland or some other lib cesspool), it's gotta be in there anyways.
I prefer to have story come first. But now Disney is changing the story to accommodate their gay agenda. Korg is gay because all members of his species are male? Nope.
In Ragnarok Korg says, "Ah, well, I tried to start a revolution, but didn't print enough pamphlets. So hardly anyone turned up, except for my mum and her boyfriend, who I hate."
People here say it was only 5 seconds, like you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you can fit it in 5 seconds. Never mind that it comes up in multiple 5 second segments in film after film now.
And I love TC's continued use of the word "objectively". Your opinion of a thing does not make it an objective fact. Yeah, F16 can have some hateful posts, but I hate to burst your bubble, but there is plenty of that here too. In this thread alone, TC has used terms like "religious zealots" and has lambasted Christians while saying his family who he loves is Christian. Despite that last, his statements seem pretty hateful toward this group simply because they don't accept all the gayness being foisted upon this society.
Thor isn't a story about gays? So even though love is in the title / is a theme, and Valkyrie is bi, you can't have gay characters anywhere because the story isn't about gay stuff?
What movie or plot would be gay enough to justify (in your mind) having a gay character? America Chavez, to my knowledge, has always been depicted as lesbian. Should we have not seen her origin in Doctor Strange because the plot wasn't about homosexuality?
It sounds like people don't want any gay characters until it's a story about a gay lead character being gay - and then we'll just hear a new slew of complaints, like "they're only making this movie to appease the gay crowd." Personally I'd rather have every movie peppered with 5 seconds of "I have two dads" than a whole movie with an obscure hero who is only getting a movie because their sexual orientation. But if that's what it takes to silence the complainers, then bring on Moondragon the Space Lesbian in 2028. It can't get here soon enough.
What movie or plot would be gay enough to justify (in your mind) having a gay character? America Chavez, to my knowledge, has always been depicted as lesbian. Should we have not seen her origin in Doctor Strange because the plot wasn't about homosexuality?
It sounds like people don't want any gay characters until it's a story about a gay lead character being gay - and then we'll just hear a new slew of complaints, like "they're only making this movie to appease the gay crowd." Personally I'd rather have every movie peppered with 5 seconds of "I have two dads" than a whole movie with an obscure hero who is only getting a movie because their sexual orientation. But if that's what it takes to silence the complainers, then bring on Moondragon the Space Lesbian in 2028. It can't get here soon enough.
FL_Ag1998 said:
Damnit, because of this thread the Ad at the bottom of the page was a link to "8 Celebs You Didn't Know Were Gay"!
See! It's happening already! Thanks Disney!
This thread is now actually gay, not that there is anything wrong with that.
Re the gay debate:
Texags is a bubble. There are people here who have opinions and views that I would honest never encounter in my every day life. No one I know personally cares about gay rock people in Disney or marvel movies. No one in my life has a problem with Valkyrie or that Jane was thor. And it's not like I don't have Christianity in my life. I was raised as a confirmed Catholic and my mother in law is a Methodist minister. But this place is the only one I visit where I get a selection of options where people clutch their pearls over these issues and view them as anything but a normal representation of life.
Make of that what you will, but I seriously doubt I'm the only one here with this experience. I like quite a few posters I. Here and I come back to read their thoughts on things inspite of those of you who are constantly bothered by Disney simply acknowledging that women, brown people, and gay people exist.
Texags is a bubble. There are people here who have opinions and views that I would honest never encounter in my every day life. No one I know personally cares about gay rock people in Disney or marvel movies. No one in my life has a problem with Valkyrie or that Jane was thor. And it's not like I don't have Christianity in my life. I was raised as a confirmed Catholic and my mother in law is a Methodist minister. But this place is the only one I visit where I get a selection of options where people clutch their pearls over these issues and view them as anything but a normal representation of life.
Make of that what you will, but I seriously doubt I'm the only one here with this experience. I like quite a few posters I. Here and I come back to read their thoughts on things inspite of those of you who are constantly bothered by Disney simply acknowledging that women, brown people, and gay people exist.
Where did I ever say a movie cannot have gay characters? Because Valkyrie is possibly gay (never really said on screen, don't give a rip about any deleted scenes or scenes that were never filmed, or comics origin stuff) does not make the movie a movie about gays.
So what if America Chavez was always depicted as gay in the comics? I have never once read a Dr. Strange comic book and did not know of the character until I saw the movie. I did not perceive her character to be gay, although the "5 seconds" thing with the moms was clear. Does not make that movie a movie about gays.
So what if America Chavez was always depicted as gay in the comics? I have never once read a Dr. Strange comic book and did not know of the character until I saw the movie. I did not perceive her character to be gay, although the "5 seconds" thing with the moms was clear. Does not make that movie a movie about gays.
Well golly gee, Beaver, I never knew.Quote:
acknowledging that women, brown people, and gay people exist
Curious that you lump women and "brown people" in with gay people.
Cinco Ranch Aggie said:Well golly gee, Beaver, I never knew.Quote:
acknowledging that women, brown people, and gay people exist
Curious that you lump women and "brown people" in with gay people.
It's not curious. They all have engendered reactions from various people here on Texags when they show up in marvel movies. I somehow have never heard any of you complain that you are so tired of seeing all the superheros that are represented as white straight males.
Well I popped in here to see what the thoughts on this movie were. Yeah. I'm out. Y'all have fun with whatever this conversation became…
Well you haven't heard from me complaining about women or brown people.
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