Cromagnum said:

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Started and got caught up in the last two days. It sounds like I'm in the minority, but I'm loving this show so far.

Granted I've not read the Silmarillion so maybe key plot points are changed and that has some folks in a huff.

Love the scenery. Everything feels recognizable but different. Music is on point. Mostly like the casting, though I think the Numenoreans were all crap except for Elendil.

Don't like the too convenient plot devices though. Arondir needs to get set loose? Sure, just turn him loose. Galadriel needs an army? Okay, I'm gonna instantly change my mind so we can keep things rolling along. Agree with the "too many mystery characters". I am not sure Sauron has actually been revealed yet.

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M.C. Swag said:

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But like NONE of them decide to leave? I feel like I missed a conversation where someone should explain why children and old men would rather risk their lives in an actual battle than seek refuge elsewhere. If I had to take last minute archery lessons in order to fight, I'd prolly consider just walking away lol.

Either way the show is being a little too obvious about how they're setting things up. I feel like this would be a better movie (this season at least). Because we all know as soon as the battle at the tower starts and things look bad, who is gonna show up to save the day.

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M.C. Swag said:

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But like NONE of them decide to leave? I feel like I missed a conversation where someone should explain why children and old men would rather risk their lives in an actual battle than seek refuge elsewhere. If I had to take last minute archery lessons in order to fight, I'd prolly consider just walking away lol.

Either way the show is being a little too obvious about how they're setting things up. I feel like this would be a better movie (this season at least). Because we all know as soon as the battle at the tower starts and things look bad, who is gonna show up to save the day.

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KCup17 said:

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Why would you waste your time posting on a thread of a show you wont waste your time on?

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Chipotlemonger said:

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M.C. Swag said:

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But like NONE of them decide to leave? I feel like I missed a conversation where someone should explain why children and old men would rather risk their lives in an actual battle than seek refuge elsewhere. If I had to take last minute archery lessons in order to fight, I'd prolly consider just walking away lol.

Either way the show is being a little too obvious about how they're setting things up. I feel like this would be a better movie (this season at least). Because we all know as soon as the battle at the tower starts and things look bad, who is gonna show up to save the day.

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Some did leave, they thought they were better off just bowing to whatever new ruler was in town.

As for why they didn't decide to just trek elsewhere, a la the Harfoots, maybe they don't want to leave their homeland. I don't know, but it seems weird to get hung up on.

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TCTTS said:

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I don't understand where you think they could go? You say they could run away, as if there's some other empty town just waiting to house all of them. All things considered, the castle/fortress thing seems like their best bet. I never questioned their decision once, until I read this thread.

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TCTTS said:

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M.C. Swag said:

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TCTTS said:

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I don't understand where you think they could go? You say they could run away, as if there's some other empty town just waiting to house all of them. All things considered, the castle/fortress thing seems like their best bet. I never questioned their decision once, until I read this thread.

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It's literally an option given to them by Adar. "Leave or die". It's why I asked none of them left. The only thing the tower affords them that anywhere else doesn't is 4 walls. They're still having to forage for food and water. Like am I taking crazy pills for asking why women and children wouldn't rather take their chances on the road vs physically engaging in a battle? lol all I'm asking is for motivations/reasonings of staying because I thought I missed something in the show. Turns out I didn't.

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Because fleeing on the road = almost certain death, while the fortress at least gives them a fighting chance, as small as that chance might be. Would you rather forage for food and water and then retreat back to a stronghold, or would you rather forage food and water and then retreat back to a field or a forest? The former seems like such a no-brainer to me.

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TCTTS said:

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M.C. Swag said:

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TCTTS said:

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I don't understand where you think they could go? You say they could run away, as if there's some other empty town just waiting to house all of them. All things considered, the castle/fortress thing seems like their best bet. I never questioned their decision once, until I read this thread.

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It's literally an option given to them by Adar. "Leave or die". It's why I asked none of them left. The only thing the tower affords them that anywhere else doesn't is 4 walls. They're still having to forage for food and water. Like am I taking crazy pills for asking why women and children wouldn't rather take their chances on the road vs physically engaging in a battle? lol all I'm asking is for motivations/reasonings of staying because I thought I missed something in the show. Turns out I didn't.

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Because fleeing on the road = almost certain death, while the fortress at least gives them a fighting chance, as small as that chance might be. Would you rather forage for food and water and then retreat back to a stronghold, or would you rather forage food and water and then retreat back to a field or a forest? The former seems like such a no-brainer to me.

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TCTTS said:

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I don't know if you're aware, but there's an army of orcs in the show, and in their exact area, who would be on their tail in a heartbeat, with more to come I'm sure. They're literally taking over that part of Middle Earth.

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TCTTS said:

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What is it about fantasy series that cause people to take this stuff more seriously than even Star Wars or the MCU? I don't mean that as a dig, it's just something I've noticed on this board for years now, and one of the reasons I haven't engaged much with these threads in the past. It's just on a completely different level, especially in LOTR and GoT threads. The fantasy shows in general really seem to bring out a passion and defensiveness that surpasses all else. They also seem to get more engagement than just about any other show threads outside of Better Call Saul. Is it because they're more often than not based on rich, pre-existing material? Or is something about the genre itself? I've always been curious about this.

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TCTTS said:

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What is it about fantasy series that cause people to take this stuff more seriously than even Star Wars or the MCU? I don't mean that as a dig, it's just something I've noticed on this board for years now, and one of the reasons I haven't engaged much with these threads in the past. It's just on a completely different level, especially in LOTR and GoT threads. The fantasy shows in general really seem to bring out a passion and defensiveness that surpasses all else. They also seem to get more engagement than just about any other show threads outside of Better Call Saul. Is it because they're more often than not based on rich, pre-existing material? Or is it something about the genre itself? I've always been curious about this.

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The Porkchop Express said:

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Because most people read the books, and books tend to touch you in a way that TV and movies cannot. It's your imagination creating the scenery, breathing life into the characters, and seeing the action play out long before it's ever on a screen.

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