Entertainment
Sponsored by

*** THE LAST OF US *** (Non-Gamer Thread)

354,324 Views | 3057 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by BadMoonRisin
fav13andac1)c
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
10:13p, 5/18/25
AG
What a spectacular episode.

For the record, Neil Druckmann and Halley Gross, who cowrote the game story, cowrote this episode with Craig Mazin.

A lot of the scenes were a beat for beat match of the game, but how it was told was adapted in a way that made sense to how they are currently presenting the season. Brilliantly done overall.
Reply Quote
5
2 edits
King Me
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
11:08p, 5/18/25
AG
Absolutely loved this episode. Flashbacks were great, scenes with Joel's dad + the watch, the porch scene, the cakes, guitar.
Reply Quote
4
2 edits
Ghost of Bisbee
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
11:42p, 5/18/25
AG
The contents of this episode is a major reason why us gamers have said the game has some of the most masterful storytelling of all time.

Love how they structured this episode with back to back birthday sequences. It is interesting that in the episode they had Joel say he loved Ellie. That was always inferred in the game but never said.

Agree on Lalo Salamanca playing Joel's dad. That dude is a hell of an actor.

Set design is just insane. I was in awe when they showed the actual planet exhibit. There's no way that was easy to make lol
Reply Quote
6
Head Ninja In Charge
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
12:14a, 5/19/25
AG
Okay. That was a good ass episode.

Just need to say though that it cannot be overstated how good Pedro Pascal is. Everyone did well here, on and off screen, but Pedro showed why he's S-tier on this show.
Reply Quote
16
Head Ninja In Charge
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
10:03a, 5/19/25
AG
One last thought. For all of the faults or whatever that we've discussed around this adaptation, I'm struggling to think of a better television show that nails cold opens better than TLOU.

That is one thing this show doesn't mess up, regardless of if you've played the game or not. The hit rate is super high on how they set up episodes.
Reply Quote
5
hurleyag
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
11:01a, 5/19/25
AG
I missed what cause Ellie to stop as they were leaving the museum. I know it panned to something in the trees, but I didn't notice anything specific.
Reply Quote
Head Ninja In Charge
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to hurleyag • 11:03a, 5/19/25
AG
They were actual fireflies flying around the vegetation which then reminded her of the Fireflies group which then reminded her of her internal conflict about what Joel may have done at the end of S1.
Reply Quote
18
Quad Dog
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to hurleyag • 11:04a, 5/19/25
AG
hurleyag said:
I missed what cause Ellie to stop as they were leaving the museum. I know it panned to something in the trees, but I didn't notice anything specific.
Me either. I just thought it was a scenic spot with lightning bugs flying around.

Literally as I typed that maybe it was fireflys and a seed of doubt entered her head at seeing them.
Reply Quote
2
hurleyag
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Head Ninja In Charge • 11:06a, 5/19/25
AG
Thanks! That Completely went over my head.
Reply Quote
Diggity
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to hurleyag • 11:19a, 5/19/25
AG
went over my head too but they showed it again during the "after the episode" and it made more sense. I lose track of all the names these different groups have.

what a great episode. Fitting farewell for Joel.
Reply Quote
1 edit
OldArmy71
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
12:00p, 5/19/25
AG
Great episode!

Pascal has helped create an all-time memorable TV character.

Unfortunately, this episode also highlights and thus reminds us even more of what the show is now missing.
Reply Quote
10
CFTXAG10
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
1:36p, 5/19/25
AG
Posting here as a bookmark for when I catch up. Late to the party but started binging last night. Got through the first three episodes of season 1 and I am hooked. Nick Offerman's character was great. He is funny even when he isn't trying to be.
Reply Quote
2
Quinn
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to OldArmy71 • 4:18p, 5/19/25
AG
OldArmy71 said:
Great episode!

Pascal has helped create an all-time memorable TV character.

Unfortunately, this episode also highlights and thus reminds us even more of what the show is now missing.
That was exactly my thought. It highlighted why there has been a decrease in quality (not major, but noticeable) since Joel was killed off.
Reply Quote
2
FL_Ag1998
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Quinn • 4:43p, 5/19/25
AG
Quinn said:
OldArmy71 said:
Great episode!

Pascal has helped create an all-time memorable TV character.

Unfortunately, this episode also highlights and thus reminds us even more of what the show is now missing.
That was exactly my thought. It highlighted why there has been a decrease in quality (not major, but noticeable) since Joel was killed off.


That same sentiment has been spoken about the 2nd game versus the first. What made the first game so incredible was not just the relationship, but the dynamic, between this older man and this young teenage girl who he came to view as a substitute for his daughter. The gravitas, the weight, that a male that age with his life experiences (much less a life in an apocalyptic world) is crucial to making Game 1/Season 1 so good.

That can't be replaced by the relationship of two teenage girls who are essentially the same character.
Reply Quote
5
1 edit
AJ02
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
9:19p, 5/19/25
AG
Last night's episode just made me even angrier about Ellie and the way she treated Joel. He TRIED so effing hard for her, and she just threw it all away.

And how did he know for sure that the doctor 100% would have found a cure if he'd let him have Ellie? It was all speculation! So not sure why he answered her question so absolutely when she asked if they would've made a cure. HE DIDN'T KNOW.

Everything about Ellie just infuriates me that much more after last night's episode. I'm fine if she gets taken out and Dina replaces her as the showrunner.
Reply Quote
13
OldArmy71
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to AJ02 • 9:34p, 5/19/25
AG
Quote:

And how did he know for sure that the doctor 100% would have found a cure if he'd let him have Ellie? It was all speculation! So not sure why he answered her question so absolutely when she asked if they would've made a cure. HE DIDN'T KNOW.

This was a question I had as soon as Joel answered her.

What I think is that he feels so very guilty for what he had to do to save Ellie that he rejects anything that might in any way justify his decision or make it less terrible. His guilt makes him embrace the starkest possible interpretation of his actions. He has done something completely evil, he knows it, he admits it, and he would do it again to save her.
Reply Quote
4
TCTTS
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
10:57p, 5/19/25
AG
This is some of the saddest **** I've ever seen on TV.

But yeah, incredible episode overall.

Pascal was amazing.
Reply Quote
10
TCTTS
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
11:25p, 5/19/25
AG
Gamers, please don't even hint at spoiler territory, re: this comment, I just thought it all was newsworthy/interesting...

Reply Quote
1 edit
TCTTS
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
11:35p, 5/19/25
AG
Some insightful comments/discussion in the thread that both counter and support this...

Reply Quote
2 edits
KidDoc
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to TCTTS • 7:31a, 5/20/25
AG
Fungal infections are treated regularly with fungicidial meds. Not sure what that guy is ranting about.

Now they are basic pharma meds, not derived from killing a child that is immune.
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
Reply Quote
2
boogieman
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
7:42a, 5/20/25
AG
Great episode and great to see Pedro Pascal again. He really elevates the show.
Reply Quote
5
TCTTS
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to KidDoc • 7:48a, 5/20/25
AG
KidDoc said:
Fungal infections are treated regularly with fungicidial meds. Not sure what that guy is ranting about.

Now they are basic pharma meds, not derived from killing a child that is immune.

What are you, some kind of doctor?

Seriously, though, is what you're talking about a treatment or a cure? Or does ultimately not matter?

(I have no dog in this hunt, I mainly just found some of the responses interesting.)
Reply Quote
aznaggiegirl07
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to AJ02 • 8:07a, 5/20/25
AG
AJ02 said:
Last night's episode just made me even angrier about Ellie and the way she treated Joel. He TRIED so effing hard for her, and she just threw it all away.

And how did he know for sure that the doctor 100% would have found a cure if he'd let him have Ellie? It was all speculation! So not sure why he answered her question so absolutely when she asked if they would've made a cure. HE DIDN'T KNOW.

Everything about Ellie just infuriates me that much more after last night's episode. I'm fine if she gets taken out and Dina replaces her as the showrunner.
she is a little *******, but what teenager isnt?

She reallizes the err of her ways and thats why shes hunting Abby down...for revenge...
Reply Quote
4
KidDoc
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to TCTTS • 8:07a, 5/20/25
AG
TCTTS said:
KidDoc said:
Fungal infections are treated regularly with fungicidial meds. Not sure what that guy is ranting about.

Now they are basic pharma meds, not derived from killing a child that is immune.

What are you, some kind of doctor?

Seriously, though, is what you're talking about a treatment or a cure? Or does ultimately not matter?

(I have no dog in this hunt, I mainly just found some of the responses interesting.)
People get fungal skin infections all the time (ring worm) as well as fungal nail infections and they are easily treatable. Immunosuppressed people get weird fungal stuff in their lungs usually and that is treatable, but the meds are fairly potent and IV (amphotericin B).


ETA: Heck I had fungal junk in my frontal sinuses that the ENT sucked out it in the OR. They just aren't as aggressive as this fictionalized version.
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
Reply Quote
1
2 edits
Counterpoint
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to KidDoc • 8:11a, 5/20/25
AG
KidDoc said:
TCTTS said:
KidDoc said:
Fungal infections are treated regularly with fungicidial meds. Not sure what that guy is ranting about.

Now they are basic pharma meds, not derived from killing a child that is immune.

What are you, some kind of doctor?

Seriously, though, is what you're talking about a treatment or a cure? Or does ultimately not matter?

(I have no dog in this hunt, I mainly just found some of the responses interesting.)
People get fungal skin infections all the time (ring worm) as well as fungal nail infections and they are easily treatable. Immunosuppressed people get weird fungal stuff in their lungs usually and that is treatable, but the meds are fairly potent and IV (amphotericin B).


ETA: Heck I had fungal junk in my frontal sinuses that the ENT sucked out it in the OR. They just aren't as aggressive as this fictionalized version.


Did you start coughing out spores?
Reply Quote
2
KidDoc
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Counterpoint • 8:18a, 5/20/25
AG
Counterpoint said:
KidDoc said:
TCTTS said:
KidDoc said:
Fungal infections are treated regularly with fungicidial meds. Not sure what that guy is ranting about.

Now they are basic pharma meds, not derived from killing a child that is immune.

What are you, some kind of doctor?

Seriously, though, is what you're talking about a treatment or a cure? Or does ultimately not matter?

(I have no dog in this hunt, I mainly just found some of the responses interesting.)
People get fungal skin infections all the time (ring worm) as well as fungal nail infections and they are easily treatable. Immunosuppressed people get weird fungal stuff in their lungs usually and that is treatable, but the meds are fairly potent and IV (amphotericin B).


ETA: Heck I had fungal junk in my frontal sinuses that the ENT sucked out it in the OR. They just aren't as aggressive as this fictionalized version.


Did you start coughing out spores?
Thankfully no, just calcified goo in my sinuses and was causing polyps obstructing nasal flow. Likely was there for years.
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
Reply Quote
2
Stonegateag85
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to AJ02 • 1:08p, 5/21/25
I felt the same way as you. It's also completely believable. Teenage girl, hormones, no father. I stop and think to myself, yes, she could in fact be this irrational.
Reply Quote
10
Brian Earl Spilner
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
10:11p, 5/25/25
AG
Not sure what the point was of Ellie washing up ashore and getting hanged up only to get saved by the bell. Unnecessary five minutes and just furthers the main issue of the season. (Plot armor)
Reply Quote
11
Quad Dog
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
10:24p, 5/25/25
AG
Was Ellie really dumb enough to try to kill two guys in the dark and rain at that distance with a handgun?

Scar around Abby neck that looked like a rope burn

A stadium is a pretty good place to build your WLF fortress

Pretty good examination and background of Jesse before his end.

Feels like they cut out a lot of Ellie going to the Scar's Island when they probably should have cut the whole thing. But it was a nice mirror of the Scar boy she wanted to save but Jesse didn't let her.

Hell of a cliffhanger. Hopefully it won't be another two years like it was between season one and season two.
Reply Quote
1
4 edits
OldArmy71
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
10:32p, 5/25/25
AG
So that was the last episode of Season 2?

So Season 3 will go back through the same stuff, but from the POV of Abby and the Wolves?


One thing that occurs to me, that leads me to a prediction. Of course I have no idea if the game ends on a positive note or on a negative note.

This episode is very dark. People keep saying that they HAVE to live (in order to save some small community that they belong to), and then of course get killed.

The episode deals with the Biblical question of "Who is my neighbor?" Characters are willing to sacrifice themselves, but only for a narrowly-defined community of "neighbors."

The dying pregnant woman whom Ellie shoots wants Ellie to save her baby, but Ellie doesn't know how.

But Ellie DOES know how to save the world: through an act of self-sacrifice.

It is possible that the show ends positively with Ellie somehow managing to get to a facility/doctor that can attempt the same procedure that Abby's father was going to perform, and agreeing to do that operation as a way to atone for Joel's killings to save her and for her own killings to avenge Joel.

In that way someone finally breaks the cycle of "selfish" killing (Ellie called Joel "selfish") and dies willingly to save everyone.
Reply Quote
3 edits
TCTTS
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
12:03a, 5/26/25
AG
The hell was that?
Reply Quote
12
TCTTS
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
12:11a, 5/26/25
AG
This.

Waiting two years to presumably tread the same three days, just from a different perspective, is such a bad decision.

Reply Quote
2
TCTTS
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
12:15a, 5/26/25
AG
I'm inclined to just read a summary of the rest of the game at this point. I really liked parts of this seasons, at times more than most, but as of now I have little desire to keep watching. The bleakest, most depressing **** + utterly baffling storytelling choices = me looking for any excuse to bail.
Reply Quote
7
johncAG
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
1:05a, 5/26/25
AG
I know you maybe thinking about dropping this but without giving anything specific away, the Abby POV has a chance to be much better television in season 3
Reply Quote
LB12Diamond
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
1:15a, 5/26/25
AG
That sucked.
Reply Quote
5
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.