Cliff.Booth said:
I'm baffled WTF this was going for until I read commentary from someone on the exact wavelength as KK and people like Leslye and Amandla. This is it.
Madmarttigan said:
I think it's ok to challenge the "good" morality of the jedi in a "for the greater good" sense where they sometimes screw up things or do awful things to save many. There are choices that they will of course have to make policing an entire galaxy and they definitely won't always be right. There will be wronged parties and those make for interesting villain origins where we are sympathetic with what happened to them.
The way this show wrote it is just a Jedi being super creepily attached to a little girl for absolutely no reason and again murdering her mother for no reason. Basically murdering a village on a completely ridiculous whim. Just… awful… writing.
Cliff.Booth said:
I'm baffled WTF this was going for until I read commentary from someone on the exact wavelength as KK and people like Leslye and Amandla. This is it.
That's the point - Disney probably expecting some ooohs and aaahs and get people all excited about what's to come. But it fell flat because everything about the show is ass.Madmarttigan said:
It was just a shot of the back of his head I don't know what we are supposed to get hyped for with that.
Similar to the last season of True Detective. I had no problem with it being a female driven show, it just wasn't very good.PatAg said:
We're about to enter the phase of discussion on the show where people go overboard with pretending the show was great to counteract the people saying it was bad "because its woke".
Can't ignore the obvious flaws just because you want it to be great.
TCTTS said:
I've noticed lately, more and more, that so many of these types of fans only care WHERE the pieces fall, not HOW the pieces got there. It's as if these fans watch solely to see plot points being checked, as opposed to watching for the storytelling itself. Like, what he's describing below sounds awesome. No one's mad that happened. We're upset (relatively speaking) because of HOW it happened. Because the storytelling that connected all the various plot points, and ultimately led to that outcome, sucked.Drinking a few beers, texting about #TheAcolyte: pic.twitter.com/MPeYw5dolC
— Germain Lussier (@GermainLussier) July 17, 2024
First one Ive seen a few people complain about.concac said:
Why did the rodent betray Sol? Did he gain sympathy with Mae after listening in to Sol telling Mae the real story about what happened at Brendok?
And Pip attacking Osha by spraying her with the liquid - why?
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Surely that cave creeper can't be Tenebrous or Plagueis. Although, I guess what really matters is whether or not it's Qimir's master. If it is, why is it letting him train an acolyte? Why is Qimir training one under the watchful eye of his master?
If it's not a master wtf is it?
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"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself." - Sheev Palpatine or Darth Sidious.
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The lifeforce of your bond... a dyad in the Force. A power like life itself. Unseen for generations. And now... the power of two restores the one, true Emperor.
Madmarttigan said:
Also it's a show in the time period where Yoda is in the height of his power… of course he should be aware of what's going on and somehow involved. Everyone was expecting it.
FL_Ag1998 said:Madmarttigan said:
Also it's a show in the time period where Yoda is in the height of his power… of course he should be aware of what's going on and somehow involved. Everyone was expecting it.
But, you see, if Yoda was involved that would mean a lesser role (gasp, perhaps no role at all!) for the show's creator's girlfriend.
This. So the one Jedi that was worth a F- was Sol, and he was turned into a murderer and was in turn murdered by his former pupil.FL_Ag1998 said:
And trust me, its no coincidence that the lone main Jedi who survives this train wreck of a season, dooming us to see more of her Syfy-channel worthy performance in Season 2, is Headland's girlfriend.
Cliff.Booth said:
I'm baffled WTF this was going for until I read commentary from someone on the exact wavelength as KK and people like Leslye and Amandla. This is it.
trying to guess the censored word. I'm going with scissoringpowerbelly said:
She is ****ing the executive producer
powerbelly said:
She is ****ing the executive producer
SpreadsheetAg said:Quote:
Surely that cave creeper can't be Tenebrous or Plagueis. Although, I guess what really matters is whether or not it's Qimir's master. If it is, why is it letting him train an acolyte? Why is Qimir training one under the watchful eye of his master?
If it's not a master wtf is it?
My guess is Darth Voldemort is Plagueis and he wants to study the this dyad / vergence (Mae and Osha) in order to extend his life.
Fits somewhat with Palpatine quotes below:TRoSQuote:
"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself." - Sheev Palpatine or Darth Sidious.Quote:
The lifeforce of your bond... a dyad in the Force. A power like life itself. Unseen for generations. And now... the power of two restores the one, true Emperor.
So Darth Voldemort has been hanging on to life by a thread for a long, long while. He's discovered by Qimir and flips Qimir to dark side. They find the twins and Darth Voldemort plans to have Qimir train them enough to grow their abilities, and then plans to drain their power and give life back to himself.
Qimir will stop him because he loves Osha, probably. Darth Voldemort is somewhat successful and is restored to some life/power. Further, he doesn't drain Mae/Osha completely, or at least not Osha (Mae sacrifices herself to stop DV from killing Osha). DV goes on to train Palpatine later...
Qimir and Osha decide to peace out and live their dark romance out in the unknown regions. Qimir eventually becomes Snoke... hahaha
TCTTS said:SpreadsheetAg said:Quote:
Surely that cave creeper can't be Tenebrous or Plagueis. Although, I guess what really matters is whether or not it's Qimir's master. If it is, why is it letting him train an acolyte? Why is Qimir training one under the watchful eye of his master?
If it's not a master wtf is it?
My guess is Darth Voldemort is Plagueis and he wants to study the this dyad / vergence (Mae and Osha) in order to extend his life.
Fits somewhat with Palpatine quotes below:TRoSQuote:
"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself." - Sheev Palpatine or Darth Sidious.Quote:
The lifeforce of your bond... a dyad in the Force. A power like life itself. Unseen for generations. And now... the power of two restores the one, true Emperor.
So Darth Voldemort has been hanging on to life by a thread for a long, long while. He's discovered by Qimir and flips Qimir to dark side. They find the twins and Darth Voldemort plans to have Qimir train them enough to grow their abilities, and then plans to drain their power and give life back to himself.
Qimir will stop him because he loves Osha, probably. Darth Voldemort is somewhat successful and is restored to some life/power. Further, he doesn't drain Mae/Osha completely, or at least not Osha (Mae sacrifices herself to stop DV from killing Osha). DV goes on to train Palpatine later...
Qimir and Osha decide to peace out and live their dark romance out in the unknown regions. Qimir eventually becomes Snoke... hahaha
I'm afraid this is essentially the plan (save for the Snoke part), and I'm seeing a ton of fanboys speculating the same online/pretty pissed off about it (lots of whining that it turns out Plagueis was inspired by nothing more than "lesbian space witches"). Basically, it's looking more and more like The Acolyte is the origin story of how Plagueis got his powers, a story that of course ultimately goes on to inspire Palpatine/Anakin, serving as connective tissue to the Skywalker Saga.
On paper? That's pretty cool!
Under the guidance of Headland & co? Ugh, no thank you.
Unfortunately, the fact that this is almost assuredly the story going forward likely increases the show's chances of renewal. Without that bigger connective tissue, if this were more of a contained story set a hundred years ago, one that underperformed as much as it did, it would be way easier for Lucasfilm to count their loses and move on. Basically, I still don't think "woke" pressure gets this thing renewed, but the fact that it looks to be telling a much grander, more significant story very well could.
