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Agreed. My family has property on 146 near Livingston and it was a parking lot. We had to run so many people off our property in that fiasco. I would multply Rita by 10 and that is what it would be like. Anyone inside Grand Parkway is screwed, IMO

I live in a remote mountain town, while might be a good thing, it will have its own challenges. Most of my friend group keep a basement of food and provisions, as do I.

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See the video link I posted. They were worried about EMP's and cars 40 years ago.

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Or do you stay put and fortify your house?

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Looters will find you soon enough and root you out one way or another. You may have guns and ammo, but that wont last forever.

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I go back and forth on the right thing to do.

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Agreed. My family has property on 146 near Livingston and it was a parking lot. We had to run so many people off our property in that fiasco. I would multply Rita by 10 and that is what it would be like. Anyone inside Grand Parkway is screwed, IMO

I live in a remote mountain town, while might be a good thing, it will have its own challenges. Most of my friend group keep a basement of food and provisions, as do I.

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I've obviously not thought through all I would need to do to get everyone safe. We live outside of Austin, but if it happened mid day, I'd have all 3 adult children scattered around town. All of our vehicles would likely be inoperable, so getting the kids rounded up would be the biggest challenge.

The question is: Would you try to gather 3 adult kids before heading out; or do you head directly for the ranch (in west Texas) with the wife and train & trust the kids to make their way there?

I have faith in 2 of the kids to figure it out. Then I have one who is book brilliant but not street smart. I would be very concerned for her welfare.

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I'm not sure there is a "right" thing to do for those of us who live in the big cities. Only a set of very bad choices from which we must still choose.

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The right thing to do is GTFO as soon as possible and as far as possible. The majority of folks will hunker down for a few days. Law & order will likely last for a little while. Get out early before things go so hell.

Pick up some paper maps of your local area & all the way to your secure ranch location. Know how to use a compass. Have some mountain bikes or maybe motorcycles that would survive an EMP so you can move faster than on foot. Move at night, you still should be able to make it 10-12 miles an hour which should get you a decent distance away from the city.

I've thought about this crap way too much. I'm embarrassed to say I've plotted a course on Google Maps from Austin to my bug out location to travel by foot avoiding main roads & houses. Would take 3-4 days hiking to get there. The "Red Dawn" fan in me would like this to go down. The realist says it would be a world of suck.

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There's something.....familiar here.......

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If he is a prepper chances are he won't have you. He spent years,money, time, education and so forth to get ready. Then he is expected to just let in family who may contribute a car full of goods? I know a few preppers and this is the vibe I get from them. The best way the explained it to me was it is like the lottery. When you win, people come from every direction wanting a piece of the pie. YMMV.

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If he is a prepper chances are he won't have you. He spent years,money, time, education and so forth to get ready. Then he is expected to just let in family who may contribute a car full of goods? I know a few preppers and this is the vibe I get from them. The best way the explained it to me was it is like the lottery. When you win, people come from every direction wanting a piece of the pie. YMMV.

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He can't fend off teams of desperate bandits/marauders by himself. I'd rather have a small team of armed, physically fit, and smart men than be alone on 1,500 acres of land personally. It's pretty remote, but one side is more exposed to a nearby highway than the rest. I hear you though, it's a good point in general. There is the possibility that he doesn't want ANY additional family there because if he takes one he has to take em all...and we have a large family.

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Anyone within the range of a big city is going to be overrun. There are 41 cities in Texas with population of 100,000 or more. A tank of gas will get most cars about 300 miles

Draw a 300 mile circle around those 41 cities, and everything within those circles will be hit with a plague of locusts.

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An EMP today would be inconvenient.

But in 50 years, we'd go back to the stone age .

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Read "One Second After".

An EMP or severe Mass Coronal Ejection from the sun could do some pretty catastrophic damage to a large region. Let's hope it isn't here in the US.

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An EMP today would be inconvenient.

But in 50 years, we'd go back to the stone age .

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Huh? Is this a quote from 1915?

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Probably understated but I meant inconvenient as far as civilizational survival. There are still people alive today who would be able to function without the technology that would be taken out by an EMP. That number is shrinking each generation to a point where there won't be a large enough population to maintain civilization. Maybe, we're already to that point.

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If he is a prepper chances are he won't have you. He spent years,money, time, education and so forth to get ready. Then he is expected to just let in family who may contribute a car full of goods? I know a few preppers and this is the vibe I get from them. The best way the explained it to me was it is like the lottery. When you win, people come from every direction wanting a piece of the pie. YMMV.

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He can't fend off teams of desperate bandits/marauders by himself. I'd rather have a small team of armed, physically fit, and smart men than be alone on 1,500 acres of land personally. It's pretty remote, but one side is more exposed to a nearby highway than the rest. I hear you though, it's a good point in general. There is the possibility that he doesn't want ANY additional family there because if he takes one he has to take em all...and we have a large family.

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You better have more abilities than just guns, ammo and shooting ability. 1500 acres of land? Can you operate farm equipment? Know how to use a three point hitch, for instance? And how to use the implement you just hitched to the tractor? Field dress a dear? A feral hog? Skin a squirrel? Possum? Coon?

The cattle, if any, will go fast. Wildlife will be the protein unless the stock ponds are stocked with fish.

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Start with a garden. It is not as easy as it looks, particularly on a larger scale than the average backyard garden. Make the mistakes now and learn from them.

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Every part of modern society runs on electricity now. The electricity goes, and boom, we're all cavemen again.

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Avoid Teslas at all costs.

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You think only Tesla's would have an issue? That's cute. They thought otherwise in 1983.


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