Sethtevious said:

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I just finished The Jakarta Pandemic this morning, really happy I didn't read it before covid, because it would have made me paranoid af. A good read, though.

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All 5 novels?

AlaskanAg99 said:

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Sethtevious said:

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I just finished The Jakarta Pandemic this morning, really happy I didn't read it before covid, because it would have made me paranoid af. A good read, though.

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All 5 novels?

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Jakarta Pandemic is book 1, Perseid Collapse (book 2) starts 6 years after book 1 ends.

Perseid Collapse brings up a relevant question for this thread:

If an EMP hits America and disables the electronics of most (but not all) vehicles, would you surrender your vehicle to the federal government if the DHS decreed all working vehicles are to be commandeered by local law enforcement? Would you fight local police if they attempted to commandeer your personal working car for their own use?

Sethtevious said:

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Perseid Collapse brings up a relevant question for this thread:

If an EMP hits America and disables the electronics of most (but not all) vehicles, would you surrender your vehicle to the federal government if the DHS decreed all working vehicles are to be commandeered by local law enforcement? Would you fight local police if they attempted to commandeer your personal working car for their own use?

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The DHS can't communicate with the masses so, that decree doesn't travel far.

Why should I believe anyone claiming to be local law enforcement?

How are they going to prove to anyone that they have any police authority at all?

Most cars aren't working so people are walking. It's a few hours after the EMP, so SHTF hasn't happened yet. You're driving to a store, because stores are open. Police stop you at an intersection they're blocking with their one working car, tell you DHS has declared a state of emergency and for all working cars to be surrendered to the police because they're needed for local law enforcement. What do you do?

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Ep. 64 At some point America’s power grid will fail. What happens then? Dennis Quaid on a risk the government seems to be ignoring. pic.twitter.com/EzX2e4NfU2

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) January 13, 2024

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Here's a link to the "Grid Down Power Up" documentary mentioned in that interview.

Note, it includes sponsorship or paid promotion from 4Patriots food.



I have not watched it yet.

Edit: Search for "Grid down power up documentary" on youtube if the link here does not work for you.

Minutes ahead when seconds count.

God hit us with that double X baby.

The outages aren't due to solar flares. These were not nearly strong enough to cause the widespread disruption seen today.

The disruption was probably due to a Microsoft "update" :/

ShinerAggie said:

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The outages aren't due to solar flares. These were not nearly strong enough to cause the widespread disruption seen today.

The disruption was probably due to a Microsoft "update" :/

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i.e. Russians or Iranians

Just seen an AT&T march madness commercial that starts out with Anderson Cooper on CNN talking about a power grid failure. Then the lights go out in the city for people watching the game followed by the protagonist pulling out his phone and streaming the game on AT&T.

Why has this idea of a widespread grid failure entered the zeitgeist?

20-years ago this would have been subject of an Art Bell caller but now it's mainstream foreshadowing.

Fat Black Swan said:

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Fat Black Swan said:

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An EMP today would be inconvenient.

But in 50 years, we'd go back to the stone age .

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Huh? Is this a quote from 1915?

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Probably understated but I meant inconvenient as far as civilizational survival. There are still people alive today who would be able to function without the technology that would be taken out by an EMP. That number is shrinking each generation to a point where there won't be a large enough population to maintain civilization. Maybe, we're already to that point.

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There are parts of the world where electrical use is fairly minimal.

TWIAVBP (The World Is A Very Big Place)

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Just seen an AT&T march madness commercial that starts out with Anderson Cooper on CNN talking about a power grid failure. Then the lights go out in the city for people watching the game followed by the protagonist pulling out his phone and streaming the game on AT&T.

Why has this idea of a widespread grid failure entered the zeitgeist?

20-years ago this would have been subject of an Art Bell caller but now it's mainstream foreshadowing.

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Conditioning the populace that it will be normal when it happens. It's what the left does.

Third World country electricity dependability. FJB

TRADUCTOR said:

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Third World country electricity dependability. FJB

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We will literally get there if they keep pushing green energy as baseline production instead of fossil fuels or nuclear.

Primary reason we are adding a generator this year.

AirB&B gets ready for summer 2024 by updating its 'disruptive events policy' to include large scale utility outages and government travel restrictions.

What do they know that we don't?

Read recently that the 'Prepper' industry is pulling in about $2.5 billion per year. Selling Fear has always been and always will be a common tactic to get rich or get elected.

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CDUB98 said:

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Can we just all agree that the US would be proper ****ed if an EMP hit and call it a day on this thread?

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Agreed the US would be proper f'd if an EMP hit, but I'd say this thread is not about the ignorant masses but rather about the smaller portion that is aware of it's surroundings and wants to discuss/plan for an unlikely scenario.

Call it the end of US 1.0 with the ignorant masses and the beginning of US 0.1 with whomever is left .

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Most countries hit with an EMP blast would be f***ed. Same if a meteor hits a country. F***ed.


In the U.S. except for Western Pennsylvania. The Amish would be rolling along with no electricity without missing a beat. Anyone living in EMP blast fear should simply consider moving to Western PA so they will have Amish neighbors for helpful tips if the lights go out.

Of all the SHTF scenarios, I find this one the most likely or plausible in my lifetime.

Could you survive without an electricity grid? Does that answer change with a few investments?

When the pan dulce sweet tooth kicks in.

FrioAg 00 said:

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Of all the SHTF scenarios, I find this one the most likely or plausible in my lifetime.

Could you survive without an electricity grid? Does that answer change with a few investments?

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The only way for me and my fam to survive an EMP is if I become a cold blooded killer AND we get very very lucky. I don't like that at all. I have family with lots of land in deep east Texas (endless water supply, more animals than you could ever shoot, small farm etc), but in an EMP or long term grid outage scenario, I would probably have to kill to make it up there in once piece…assuming my truck even ran at all.

I would much rather a nuke or meteor just take us all out than to try to endure a desperate every man for himself scenario where all of a sudden millions of people within a 20 mile radius are all trying to survive.

LMCane said:

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this was basically the Netflix movie with Julia Roberts that came out a few weeks ago..

and if there is ever an EMP set off over Chicago, the USA will rapidly collapse.

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Um, if it was Chicago, I would vote to wall off the affected area, and the US would be better off.

El Gallo Blanco said:

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FrioAg 00 said:

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Of all the SHTF scenarios, I find this one the most likely or plausible in my lifetime.

Could you survive without an electricity grid? Does that answer change with a few investments?

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The only way for me and my fam to survive an EMP is if I become a cold blooded killer AND we get very very lucky. I don't like that at all. I have family with lots of land in deep east Texas (endless water supply, more animals than you could ever shoot, small farm etc), but in an EMP or long term grid outage scenario, I would probably have to kill to make it up there in once piece…assuming my truck even ran at all.

I would much rather a nuke or meteor just take us all out than to try to endure a desperate every man for himself scenario where all of a sudden millions of people within a 20 mile radius are all trying to survive.

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If an EMP does this to the U.S., the world is done.

I agree that the world as we know it is over. But I can't help but wonder how many progressives I can ring up before someone finally gets me.

Conservatives should absolutely take advantage of the chaos and make sure the degeneracy rampant in our society todays does not make it out the other side.

Humanity would survive - we are resilient as a species because of our ability to make tools and our relentless drive to dominate our environment.

But losing the core infrastructure that we have built dependance on would mean most of the millions of current humans pass away pretty quickly - with starvation and lawlessness being the top 2 causes.

If we're talking about something solar storm driven, then it's not just America down - everyone is down. So you're not dealing with external enemies - just the local ones.

To me, if within the zone of affect, loss of communications will be the most unnerving to the most people. I am of an age where we had three channels on TV and they went offair (showing an American flag flying and playing the national antem) after midnight or thereabouts. Phone lines were all landlines, many party lines at the time. Just being outside cut one off from communications. No answering machines, no caller ID, etc.

We were accustomed to being out of communications with anyone other than immediate neighbors.

The not knowing factor will not be the same for younger generations. No TV, no satellite, no internet so no streaming, no cell phone. In an information vacuum.

https://www.amazon.com/Second-After-John-Matherson-Novel/dp/0765327252

Read this well known book One Second After set in a small U.S. town of what might happen to society after EMP blast. Good post-apocalyptic yarn if you like those.

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I agree that the world as we know it is over. But I can't help but wonder how many progressives I can ring up before someone finally gets me.

Conservatives should absolutely take advantage of the chaos and make sure the degeneracy rampant in our society todays does not make it out the other side.

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The fact that you approach this from a conservative v. progressive view point is disturbing. Evil will become more evil and modern day politics will have no bearing on that. Was Stalin a Conservative? Hitler? Pol Pot?

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The fact that you approach this from a conservative v. progressive view point is disturbing. Evil will become more evil and modern day politics will have no bearing on that. Was Stalin a Conservative? Hitler? Pol Pot?

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Why? Why would that be disturbing to you?

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The fact that you approach this from a conservative v. progressive view point is disturbing. Evil will become more evil and modern day politics will have no bearing on that. Was Stalin a Conservative? Hitler? Pol Pot?

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Why? Why would that be disturbing to you?

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Maybe because the poster talked about taking as many progressives out with him under a scenario where one's politics mean dookie…

Pumpkinhead said:

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Read recently that the 'Prepper' industry is pulling in about $2.5 billion per year. Selling Fear has always been and always will be a common tactic to get rich or get elected.

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So it's like a small potatoes verson of climate change and COVID, but two or 3 orders of magnitude smaller?

Preying on the most ignorant and delusional of our society.