Apache said:Was that show any good?Quote:
This is pretty much what would begin to happen:
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Just imagine when an EMP takes out our grid?
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IndividualFreedom said:
I'm liking my chances at a bay house. Wife tells me I've got enough fishing lures so why buy more?!
You cannot live off fish.
For food preservation, solar panels tied into several kilowatt hours of batteries can power fridges and freezers.Stat Monitor Repairman said:
A huge amount of food will be wasted to spoilage if deep freezers go offline. Theres no reasonable way to preserve food that fast, especially if in the summer months. You'd have to cook and eat as much as you can as fast as you can.
Also you'd have a progressively worse sanitation problem that goes with rotting meat, namely insects and varmints. Now you multiply that over an entire neighborhood. Walk ins at stores and restaurants would be full of rancid meat.
If you had a generator you'd have to decide whether the fuel burned to run the deep freeze or fuel burned to try and preserve food would be worth it long term.
oklaunion said:For food preservation, solar panels tied into several kilowatt hours of batteries can power fridges and freezers.Stat Monitor Repairman said:
A huge amount of food will be wasted to spoilage if deep freezers go offline. Theres no reasonable way to preserve food that fast, especially if in the summer months. You'd have to cook and eat as much as you can as fast as you can.
Also you'd have a progressively worse sanitation problem that goes with rotting meat, namely insects and varmints. Now you multiply that over an entire neighborhood. Walk ins at stores and restaurants would be full of rancid meat.
If you had a generator you'd have to decide whether the fuel burned to run the deep freeze or fuel burned to try and preserve food would be worth it long term.
Not in an EMP blast
Good follow if you are in to doomer space/solar weather:
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As soon as it becomes obvious a SHTF scenario is happening, people will abandon their posts to head home to their loved ones. The only thing that will keep them on base is the supply of food and weaponry. Even then, some will simply leave to take care of family, especially those who don't have immediate family on base.Quote:
also, there WILL be US military forces that are still in existence.
Couple of crab potsIndividualFreedom said:
I'm liking my chances at a bay house. Wife tells me I've got enough fishing lures so why buy more?!
Crab net
fish traps
seine net
cast net
jug lines
People might be going mad max somewhere but you'd be doing a crab boil every night at a minimum.
Ep. 64 At some point America’s power grid will fail. What happens then? Dennis Quaid on a risk the government seems to be ignoring. pic.twitter.com/EzX2e4NfU2
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Unless you're in an isolated spot, you have to think the smell of seafood cooking will eventually attract hungry predators, both of the human and non-human variety.Stat Monitor Repairman said:Couple of crab potsIndividualFreedom said:
I'm liking my chances at a bay house. Wife tells me I've got enough fishing lures so why buy more?!
Crab net
fish traps
seine net
cast net
jug lines
People might be going mad max somewhere but you'd be doing a crab boil every night at a minimum.
Was at Costco yesterday and they had "survival gear" in the front, I assume due to the expected cold.
They had a bucket of meals that can last "up to 25 years" with 132 servings.
But each of those servings was only 200 calories, so you are eating at least 8-9 a day to maintain strength (if you have nothing else). So realistically it's a week worth of food for 2 people. Doesn't stretch very far even under 2000 calories a day.
They had a bucket of meals that can last "up to 25 years" with 132 servings.
But each of those servings was only 200 calories, so you are eating at least 8-9 a day to maintain strength (if you have nothing else). So realistically it's a week worth of food for 2 people. Doesn't stretch very far even under 2000 calories a day.
Do y'all think our military is not prepared for this? I don't see that being the case. At all.
Much of their equipment is designed to withstand an EMP. The big issues are energy and communications, large infrastructures that are only as strong as the weakest link.Agsrback12 said:
Do y'all think our military is not prepared for this? I don't see that being the case. At all.
ETA: Not sure what good the military is if the rest of society breaks down.
Agsrback12 said:
Do y'all think our military is not prepared for this? I don't see that being the case. At all.
I think our military is prepared and will fight hard until the food, water, and fuel give out. So what, 3-5 days, tops?
Read One Second After. Half the population would be dead inside 30 days. Then the real horrors start.
Yep it all sounds terrible. I'll be putting my faith in God. He'll handle it.
ttu_85 said:
Yep it all sounds terrible. I'll be putting my faith in God. He'll handle it.
This times a million. Jesus' promise will never fail no matter what. As long as you have Him, you're okay.
Sethtevious said:It's not rocket science, and it is amusing you act like it is some secret knowledge so few people possess. Pickling is simple: 2 parts vinegar to 1 part water, add salt. Heat liquid until boiling. Fill jars with vegetables, pour brine over vegetables to fill each jar. Cover jars, burp to make sure there are no bubbles. Let jars return to room temperature and then store, either in a cold place (quick pickle) or long-term in a cooler, dry environment. Magic!!!Sarge 91 said:Sethtevious said:I hate to be the one to point out the obvious, but we had people living in the South prior to refrigeration. Pickling and canning foods are a thing. Smoking/drying foods are a thing, Root cellars are a thing. Salting foods is a thing. It is honestly astonishing that you think we didn't preserve foods until the invention of refrigeration.P.U.T.U said:
It is so hot and we won't have any way to preserve meat without refrigeration. Most people won't be able to get food plots developed enough to prevent starvation.
The number of people who know how to do those this is very small. Not to mention you need access to the food to can it and unless you grow your own, the HEB supply trucks will not be bringing inventory.
Canning: sterilize some jars; fill with vegetables/food; put the jars in a pot; fill pot with water, bring water to boil until tops on jars pop, Magic!!!
This information isn't difficult to find (tons of information on these methods in libraries and old cookbooks), so again it is amusing that you act like people wouldn't or can't learn. People survived thousands of millennia without refrigeration, we can do it again.
You cannot just boil veggies/meat to can them.
They need a pressure canner.
Agsrback12 said:ttu_85 said:
Yep it all sounds terrible. I'll be putting my faith in God. He'll handle it.
This times a million. Jesus' promise will never fail no matter what. As long as you have Him, you're okay.
I agree, but you two do realize that Him "handling it" could simply be your death and meeting Him?
That's not necessarily a bad thing, but getting there could always be quite painful.
CDUB98 said:Agsrback12 said:ttu_85 said:
Yep it all sounds terrible. I'll be putting my faith in God. He'll handle it.
This times a million. Jesus' promise will never fail no matter what. As long as you have Him, you're okay.
I agree, but you two do realize that Him "handling it" could simply be your death and meeting Him?
That's not necessarily a bad thing, but getting there could always be quite painful.
Absolutely.
A_Gang_Ag_06 said:
Read One Second After. Half the population would be dead inside 30 days. Then the real horrors start.
90% in a year.
Tanya 93 said:Sethtevious said:It's not rocket science, and it is amusing you act like it is some secret knowledge so few people possess. Pickling is simple: 2 parts vinegar to 1 part water, add salt. Heat liquid until boiling. Fill jars with vegetables, pour brine over vegetables to fill each jar. Cover jars, burp to make sure there are no bubbles. Let jars return to room temperature and then store, either in a cold place (quick pickle) or long-term in a cooler, dry environment. Magic!!!Sarge 91 said:Sethtevious said:I hate to be the one to point out the obvious, but we had people living in the South prior to refrigeration. Pickling and canning foods are a thing. Smoking/drying foods are a thing, Root cellars are a thing. Salting foods is a thing. It is honestly astonishing that you think we didn't preserve foods until the invention of refrigeration.P.U.T.U said:
It is so hot and we won't have any way to preserve meat without refrigeration. Most people won't be able to get food plots developed enough to prevent starvation.
The number of people who know how to do those this is very small. Not to mention you need access to the food to can it and unless you grow your own, the HEB supply trucks will not be bringing inventory.
Canning: sterilize some jars; fill with vegetables/food; put the jars in a pot; fill pot with water, bring water to boil until tops on jars pop, Magic!!!
This information isn't difficult to find (tons of information on these methods in libraries and old cookbooks), so again it is amusing that you act like people wouldn't or can't learn. People survived thousands of millennia without refrigeration, we can do it again.
You cannot just boil veggies/meat to can them.
They need a pressure canner.
I didn't say anything about canning meat, but thanks for bringing it up. Foods high in acid (pH between 1.0 and 4.6) can be processed in a water bath, food with low (or zero) acid (4.61-14.0) need 240 degrees temps to kill all harmful microorganisms, so require pressure canning.
At the end of the day most people think too small and can't comprehend society level events when order breaks down.
After That happens, then you're back in the 17th century. No one has the skills for that environment. I like to think I'm "ready" but that's only for a hurricane level event lasting 4-6 weeks.
When you start talking about years, very very few can even think about that.
After That happens, then you're back in the 17th century. No one has the skills for that environment. I like to think I'm "ready" but that's only for a hurricane level event lasting 4-6 weeks.
When you start talking about years, very very few can even think about that.
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After That happens, then you're back in the 17th century. No one has the skills for that environment.
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court worked because the hero had 19th century knowledge of basic engineering and science.
Send someone back today and they wouldn't know what to do, since there would be no YouTube to instruct them.
Unless it was a world-wide event, aid from other places starts coming within weeks or a few months at most. The 10% that managed to make it would be able to get some basic supplies from the new Chinese overlords or maybe the Sinaloa cartel around here.Quote:
When you start talking about years, very very few can even think about that.
Can we just all agree that the US would be proper ****ed if an EMP hit and call it a day on this thread?
You could fill in the blank with literally anything & the answer would still be no.Quote:
Can we just all agree that ___________________________ and call it a day on this thread?
Touche
been reading my new "One Second After" delivered a few days ago-
nearly 3/4 way through it!
it's pretty hokey dialogue and does not ring true as the way people actually speak
but the underlying story is pretty awesome and engrossing
who else has read this
nearly 3/4 way through it!
it's pretty hokey dialogue and does not ring true as the way people actually speak
but the underlying story is pretty awesome and engrossing
who else has read this
Why the fear porn?
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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