If any of the bomb throwing leftist trolls come back to this thread, they will certainly call you racist. But they won't say you're wrong.Nanomachines son said:barbacoa taco said:I take issue with you correlating gun violence rates to race. But yes, small rural communities have lower murder and gun violence rates. Clearly. The vast majority of lawful gun owners are just that--lawful.HumpitPuryear said:
I would like for the two liberal pearl-clutchers here to explain why my rural county where guns outnumber people by at least 3:1 never has a murder. Almost everyone has a firearm within reach either on their person or in their vehicle, yet miraculously no murders.
Neither are apparently very smart so I'll provide a statistic as a clue - the population is 99.9% white and Hispanic.
Gun violence rates cannot be attributed to one specific cause, and people have literally written dissertations on underlying causes of generational poverty and systemic problems that correlate with higher crime rates (and ergo, higher gun violence rates). It's not exactly surprising that gun violence rates are higher in major urban areas. Yes I know, the vast majority of big cities are run by Democrats, albeit a great number of these cities with high crime rates are in red states.
I still think we can do a much better job at reducing the number of guns on the streets and keeping guns out of the wrong hands. For example, i am still furious the Uvalde shooter was able to so easily purchase 2 AR15s, with as much ammunition as he wanted, right after his 18th birthday with no issue whatsoever, even though there were tons of red flags that should have either prevented him from buying them or delayed it. I'll never get over that.
Granted, the situation in KC is different and it will be several days until we know all the facts. I'm just tired of all this **** and tired of hearing people continue to make excuses for it.
Violent crime always correlated to race. This is why violent crime rates are consistent globally for each race. Asians are always the lowest in every nation, whites are always next and also very low, then hispanics, then a huge gap, and then blacks. This is the norm in every nation on the planet. We have data from not just the US but from Canada, the UK, Israel, Japan, France, and more that all correlate and line up exactly with American racial breakdowns in violent crime.
You're engaging in severe gaslighting here because your real goal was never about reducing crime. It's to remove weapons from your enemies to make them easier to oppress and crush. Everyone knows this now, which is why no one takes any of the words you say seriously.
If you cared about violent crime at all, you would follow the El Salvador model. We all know you don't though.
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DrEvazanPhD said:What dogs am I whistling up there buddy?Pylon Cam said:Dog whistle aside, those 13% would not have the same level of access to guns that they do now if not for Republican gun policy.DrEvazanPhD said:If you're a practical person, you look at the 13% causing more than 50% of these types of incidents.Pylon Cam said:
How many more shootings will it take for Republicans to wake up? All of this suffering, carnage, and death is not worth it.
If you are a Christian, or even if you just have any morals, you should be all for getting guns off the street.
Don't go blaming republicans for perpetuating a victim mentality.
Gun control works, but only if it's applied everywhere. Guns are trafficked into states with stricter gun control from states with weaker gun control that's why we have this issue.
Isn't it weird how only leftists can hear all these racist dog whistles?
If it is just about gun control - how do leftists explain these actual statistics?Nanomachines son said:
Violent crime always correlated to race. This is why violent crime rates are consistent globally for each race. Asians are always the lowest in every nation, whites are always next and also very low, then hispanics, then a huge gap, and then blacks. This is the norm in every nation on the planet. We have data from not just the US but from Canada, the UK, Israel, Japan, France, and more that all correlate and line up exactly with American racial breakdowns in violent crime.
You're engaging in severe gaslighting here because your real goal was never about reducing crime. It's to remove weapons from your enemies to make them easier to oppress and crush. Everyone knows this now, which is why no one takes any of the words you say seriously.
If you cared about violent crime at all, you would follow the El Salvador model. We all know you don't though.
In Israel, the rate of murder/homicide in 2019 was 1.47 per 100,000 civilians.
The US had a rate of 5.07, more than triple the amount.
Arabs within Israel commit the vast amount of violent crimes in Israel (189 murders versus 13).
European countries have much lower rates, however, with England standing at 1.12 murders per 100,000, Germany with 0.75, and Spain with 0.71.
For comparison, South American countries have numbers that could put Israeli statistics in perspective.
Mexico had a whopping 26.6 murders per 100,000 citizens in 2019, followed closely by Brazil with 23.6.
Although the calculated number of murders per capita is indeed higher in Israel than in some European countries, this could be affected by several unique factors, such as a high murder rate in the Arab-Israeli sector and terror attacks, an issue European countries don't have to deal with as much.
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DrEvazanPhD said:What dogs am I whistling up there buddy?Pylon Cam said:Dog whistle aside, those 13% would not have the same level of access to guns that they do now if not for Republican gun policy.DrEvazanPhD said:If you're a practical person, you look at the 13% causing more than 50% of these types of incidents.Pylon Cam said:
How many more shootings will it take for Republicans to wake up? All of this suffering, carnage, and death is not worth it.
If you are a Christian, or even if you just have any morals, you should be all for getting guns off the street.
Don't go blaming republicans for perpetuating a victim mentality.
Gun control works, but only if it's applied everywhere. Guns are trafficked into states with stricter gun control from states with weaker gun control that's why we have this issue.
You didn't.
Pylon inadvertently let his mask slip for all to see and it's exactly what we all thought.
Nanomachines son said:Our new study finds that despite making up just 14% of the U.S. population, Black Americans account for 60% of firearm homicides each year.
— Brady | United Against Gun Violence (@bradybuzz) February 14, 2024
Honoring Black history means ending gun violence. Learn more about the facts that make us act:https://t.co/Y99cLrg9vF
Uh oh, the Brady Center is going to be cancelled for confirming FBI crime data!
Until we are able to have an honest discussion about this nothing will improve
— Jake Shields (@jakeshieldsajj) February 15, 2024
Unfortunately, people prefer to yell racist instead of dig at the real issue pic.twitter.com/oZuqVKc3Qv
Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats. This is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
Such a foolish take.
Try this on for size...lets lock up criminals and stop letting them have hall passes for criminal behavior. That is 100% a Democrat policy and an issue that Democrats 100% own!
Pylon Cam said:You're describing the "shall not infringe" crowd.American Hardwood said:Worse, people like her would have advocated not just confiscating his weapons, but also throwing him to the lions for being a terrorist.Tramp96 said:
Pylon would have advocated for the sling and rocks to be taken away from David.
I'm fighting against the status quo. I'm fighting against the laws that have made it so easy for people to harm their fellow man. I'm fighting for what Jesus actually taught.
You invoked Jesus in these two quotes here and in such a way that demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
If you are a Christian, or even if you just have any morals, you should be all for getting guns off the street.
Jesus cared about one thing and one thing only, bringing each and every individual closer to God for the salvation of their soul. If he was confronted by one of these thugs, his concern would not be whether or not they had a sword or a gun but how the quality of their soul appeared and how they might be cleansed of their demons.
Jesus knows where sin originates, and it isn't in some material object. The only way you can stretch His teaching to fit your agenda is to take what He said about dispossessing yourself of material things that bind you to a sinful world. But even in this it recognizes that the material things of this world can only tempt a man to sin and not cause a man to sin. It still takes an act of will. That is what makes an action a sin or not.
Legally purchased =/ legally possessed.
No person engaged in a criminal organized activity like a criminal gang is a legal possessor. They wouldn't be a legal purchaser either.
Most of the guns used in these gang related shootings are stolen or sometimes straw purchased handguns.
They're doing illegal things with illegally obtained snd posses weapons. We have all the laws we need. The Democrat DA's and judges are racist and don't apply them equally and effectively to all groups because they are determined that unequal outcomes by category aren't due to unequal inputs, but rather systemic biases.
No person engaged in a criminal organized activity like a criminal gang is a legal possessor. They wouldn't be a legal purchaser either.
Most of the guns used in these gang related shootings are stolen or sometimes straw purchased handguns.
They're doing illegal things with illegally obtained snd posses weapons. We have all the laws we need. The Democrat DA's and judges are racist and don't apply them equally and effectively to all groups because they are determined that unequal outcomes by category aren't due to unequal inputs, but rather systemic biases.
aTm2004 said:Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats. This is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
If we enacted common sense dick control, we'd see way less rapes.
Exactly.
100% exactly.
El Gallo Blanco said:
Some of the safest places IN THE WORLD are conservative communities with extraordinarily high gun ownership rates. Guns are not the problem. We have a people problem in this ever-decaying society. Especially in certain communities where fathers are almost non-existent, degeneracy is applauded, and most adults read at an elementary school level.
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LMCane said:If it is just about gun control - how do leftists explain these actual statistics?Nanomachines son said:
Violent crime always correlated to race. This is why violent crime rates are consistent globally for each race. Asians are always the lowest in every nation, whites are always next and also very low, then hispanics, then a huge gap, and then blacks. This is the norm in every nation on the planet. We have data from not just the US but from Canada, the UK, Israel, Japan, France, and more that all correlate and line up exactly with American racial breakdowns in violent crime.
You're engaging in severe gaslighting here because your real goal was never about reducing crime. It's to remove weapons from your enemies to make them easier to oppress and crush. Everyone knows this now, which is why no one takes any of the words you say seriously.
If you cared about violent crime at all, you would follow the El Salvador model. We all know you don't though.
In Israel, the rate of murder/homicide in 2019 was 1.47 per 100,000 civilians.
The US had a rate of 5.07, more than triple the amount.
Arabs within Israel commit the vast amount of violent crimes in Israel (189 murders versus 13).
European countries have much lower rates, however, with England standing at 1.12 murders per 100,000, Germany with 0.75, and Spain with 0.71.
For comparison, South American countries have numbers that could put Israeli statistics in perspective.
Mexico had a whopping 26.6 murders per 100,000 citizens in 2019, followed closely by Brazil with 23.6.
Although the calculated number of murders per capita is indeed higher in Israel than in some European countries, this could be affected by several unique factors, such as a high murder rate in the Arab-Israeli sector and terror attacks, an issue European countries don't have to deal with as much.
Good post… and in none of those countries can you walk into an academy and walk out with a firearm in less than 15 minutes…
Ahhhhh…….the old "common sense gun control" plea with essentially no description of what your idea of "common sense" is. Getting a background check on my son, neighbor, or the DPS officer across the street isn't it, and punishing the person who sold a gun that was misused later is the epitome of "non-common sense".Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats. This is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Completely agree. To me its just like drugs, you can try to outlaw certain guns etc, but the bad guys will just get them illegally.MouthBQ98 said:
Legally purchased =/ legally possessed.
No person engaged in a criminal organized activity like a criminal gang is a legal possessor. They wouldn't be a legal purchaser either.
Most of the guns used in these gang related shootings are stolen or sometimes straw purchased handguns.
They're doing illegal things with illegally obtained snd posses weapons. We have all the laws we need. The Democrat DA's and judges are racist and don't apply them equally and effectively to all groups because they are determined that unequal outcomes by category aren't due to unequal inputs, but rather systemic biases.
Regardless of gun control attempts, we will never be able to stop illegal weapons from getting into the wrong hands.
The issue is recidivism and lax punishments. There are no absolute solution for stopping violence, and you can't mitigate it by taking away a persons right to defend themselves.
The real racism is not in recognizing this data and trying to do something about it, but in trying to hide the data or deflect it or misdirect it to some other target because it shows the embarrassing flaw in the ideology of those in charge (leftist democrats).aTm2004 said:Nanomachines son said:Our new study finds that despite making up just 14% of the U.S. population, Black Americans account for 60% of firearm homicides each year.
— Brady | United Against Gun Violence (@bradybuzz) February 14, 2024
Honoring Black history means ending gun violence. Learn more about the facts that make us act:https://t.co/Y99cLrg9vF
Uh oh, the Brady Center is going to be cancelled for confirming FBI crime data!Until we are able to have an honest discussion about this nothing will improve
— Jake Shields (@jakeshieldsajj) February 15, 2024
Unfortunately, people prefer to yell racist instead of dig at the real issue pic.twitter.com/oZuqVKc3Qv
In other words, calling attention to the 'black' problem in regards to violent deaths is pro-black and leads to real solutions to the problem whereas hiding or misdirecting the issue is anti-black and leads to a continued decline and more black deaths and more deaths in general.
The real racism though is that for the sake of protecting leftist ideology and protecting leftists from the embarrassment of admitting failure, they are willing to sacrifice as many black lives as it takes.
73% of all murders happen in 5% of the counties in the US...Democrat controlled Urban centers. 52% of all counties have no murders. If we keep guns away from Democrats, crime will drop 90%. We all know the reason for this...Chicago, Detroit, Washington, DC, St Louis and Philadelphia drive the majority of it.LMCane said:how come in Israel and Switzerland where there are massive amounts of fully automatic rifles being carried by citizens,Baseball Is Life said:Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats this is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
Mexico is a shinning example of your gun free utopia.
there is a tiny fraction of the number of shootings in the USA?
The below is from that bastion of hard-right wing press, NPR: "most gun violence is very tightly concentrated on a small number of very high risk young Black male adults that have a shared set of common risk factors," https://npr.org/local/305/2022/02/21/1082103272/a-majority-of-d-c-s-gun-violence-is-driven-by-a-small-number-of-people-study-says……
Our new study finds that despite making up just 14% of the U.S. population, Black Americans account for 60% of firearm homicides each year.
— Brady | United Against Gun Violence (@bradybuzz) February 14, 2024
Honoring Black history means ending gun violence. Learn more about the facts that make us act:https://t.co/Y99cLrg9vF
Dog whistle = "You have an opinion I don't like!"aggiejayrod said:DrEvazanPhD said:What dogs am I whistling up there buddy?Pylon Cam said:Dog whistle aside, those 13% would not have the same level of access to guns that they do now if not for Republican gun policy.DrEvazanPhD said:If you're a practical person, you look at the 13% causing more than 50% of these types of incidents.Pylon Cam said:
How many more shootings will it take for Republicans to wake up? All of this suffering, carnage, and death is not worth it.
If you are a Christian, or even if you just have any morals, you should be all for getting guns off the street.
Don't go blaming republicans for perpetuating a victim mentality.
Gun control works, but only if it's applied everywhere. Guns are trafficked into states with stricter gun control from states with weaker gun control that's why we have this issue.
Isn't it weird how only leftists can hear all these racist dog whistles?
Agree. It is a culture issue and the leaders within the black communities who call this out are ignored. As a society, we need to have the uncomfortable conversation if we really want to solve anything.
japantiger said:73% of all murders happen in 5% of the counties in the US...Democrat controlled Urban centers. 52% of all counties have no murders. If we keep guns away from Democrats, crime will drop 90%. We all know the reason for this...Chicago, Detroit, Washington, DC, St Louis and Philadelphia drive the majority of it.LMCane said:how come in Israel and Switzerland where there are massive amounts of fully automatic rifles being carried by citizens,Baseball Is Life said:Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats this is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
Mexico is a shinning example of your gun free utopia.
there is a tiny fraction of the number of shootings in the USA?
The below is from that bastion of hard-right wing press, NPR: "most gun violence is very tightly concentrated on a small number of very high risk young Black male adults that have a shared set of common risk factors," https://npr.org/local/305/2022/02/21/1082103272/a-majority-of-d-c-s-gun-violence-is-driven-by-a-small-number-of-people-study-says……
It is not and never will be a democrat issue. Stop obfuscating the actual data. The issue is exclusively a racial one. Democrat controlled Vermont has almost no violent crime, why? Because it's like 95% white.
You people are engaging in the same type of data denial the left does. Stop doing it.
aTm2004 said:
Agree. It is a culture issue and the leaders within the black communities who call this out are ignored. As a society, we need to have the uncomfortable conversation if we really want to solve anything.
Culture does not explain why the UK, Canada, Israel, Japan, and France have the same racial breakdowns in violent crime. Why is it so hard for some of you to admit it literally is a racial issue?
Kentucky Jeff said:Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats. This is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
Such a foolish take.
Try this on for size...lets lock up criminals and stop letting them have hall passes for criminal behavior. That is 100% a Democrat policy and an issue that Democrats 100% own!
Such a statement of privilege. This would disproportionately affect those who commit crimes.
Blacks vote 90% Democrat. Blacks live predominantly in Democrat controlled urban centers. The top 20 cities in America have not had a Republican administration in 3 generations. The Venn Diagram is an almost perfect overlap.Nanomachines son said:japantiger said:73% of all murders happen in 5% of the counties in the US...Democrat controlled Urban centers. 52% of all counties have no murders. If we keep guns away from Democrats, crime will drop 90%. We all know the reason for this...Chicago, Detroit, Washington, DC, St Louis and Philadelphia drive the majority of it.LMCane said:how come in Israel and Switzerland where there are massive amounts of fully automatic rifles being carried by citizens,Baseball Is Life said:Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats this is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
Mexico is a shinning example of your gun free utopia.
there is a tiny fraction of the number of shootings in the USA?
The below is from that bastion of hard-right wing press, NPR: "most gun violence is very tightly concentrated on a small number of very high risk young Black male adults that have a shared set of common risk factors," https://npr.org/local/305/2022/02/21/1082103272/a-majority-of-d-c-s-gun-violence-is-driven-by-a-small-number-of-people-study-says……
It is not and never will be a democrat issue. Stop obfuscating the actual data. The issue is exclusively a racial one. Democrat controlled Vermont has almost no violent crime, why? Because it's like 95% white.
You people are engaging in the same type of data denial the left does. Stop doing it.
Nanomachines son said:japantiger said:73% of all murders happen in 5% of the counties in the US...Democrat controlled Urban centers. 52% of all counties have no murders. If we keep guns away from Democrats, crime will drop 90%. We all know the reason for this...Chicago, Detroit, Washington, DC, St Louis and Philadelphia drive the majority of it.LMCane said:how come in Israel and Switzerland where there are massive amounts of fully automatic rifles being carried by citizens,Baseball Is Life said:Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats this is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
Mexico is a shinning example of your gun free utopia.
there is a tiny fraction of the number of shootings in the USA?
The below is from that bastion of hard-right wing press, NPR: "most gun violence is very tightly concentrated on a small number of very high risk young Black male adults that have a shared set of common risk factors," https://npr.org/local/305/2022/02/21/1082103272/a-majority-of-d-c-s-gun-violence-is-driven-by-a-small-number-of-people-study-says……
It is not and never will be a democrat issue. Stop obfuscating the actual data. The issue is exclusively a racial one. Democrat controlled Vermont has almost no violent crime, why? Because it's like 95% white.
You people are engaging in the same type of data denial the left does. Stop doing it.
I think they play a decent role here. Over the decades look at what their policies have done to the black communities. Almost every one is a wasteland...with a large % hooked on the govt teet. There are almost no fathers present. They own almost no businesses. Schools are a disaster and literacy rates are shockingly bad. Crime is through the roof. And degeneracy is lauded. It was not always this way...even post slavery on through segregation, the gap was much smaller between average whites and blacks. Thomas Sowell (and very few others) does a great job of backing this up with actual data and statistics.
On top of that...the left has taken a very pro-criminal, anti-law and order approach. Follow the crime thread on the Houston board. Almost ZERO of these murderers should have been out on the streets.
I don't disagree entirely with you, just saying, the left has not helped.
I don't see any data in the meme from 2015. It's just a bunch of false assertions about murder rate and the effect of removing five cities on that rate. The gun control part seems like it probably has some basis.Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:japantiger said:
Our resident gun-grabbing loonies won't touch this with a ten foot pole. How dare you bring data and facts into an emotional outburst?!
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/mar/28/viral-image/united-states-third-murders-outlier-cities/
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A viral meme shared on social media following the Parkland, Fla., shooting claimed the United States has the third-highest count of murders worldwide, a ranking that would drop dramatically if five major cities were excluded.
The image has been circulating since at least 2015.
We decided to take a closer look. Is the United States third in murders, and are a few outlier cities responsible? That's false by any standard.
The main study of intentional homicides is performed by the United Nations' Office of Drug Control. The UN warns against cross-national comparisons because of the differences in legal definitions of intentional homicides and recording practices.
Our count of the UN's data placed the United States ninth in intentional homicides. We used the most up-to-date count for each country and territory, which included data anywhere from 2007 to 2015.
As the country with the third-highest population size, however, experts told us the number of people killed is not a very useful metric.
Controlling for population size, most criminologists use the per 100,000 metric. By that standard, we found the United States ranked 94th.
When we counted only the countries for which the UN had 2015 data, the United States ranked 73rd. That's still far from the top ten.
The meme argues that a few outlier cities with stringent gun control legislation are responsible for the United States' high homicide count. But that's not true, either.
Chicago, Detroit, Washington, St. Louis and New Orleans have homicide rates well above the national average, but that's typical for large urban cities.
. . .
Dropping them from the U.S. total has little substantive impact on the U.S. homicide rate or count.
The cities cited in the meme accounted for 1,568 of 17,250, or 9.1 percent, of all homicides reported to the FBI in 2016, Tom Kovandzic, a criminologist at the University of Texas, Dallas, calculated for us.
And without those cities, the homicide rate (per capita) would only decline by 7.73 percent, or from 5.34 to 4.93.
When we applied those reductions to the UN data, the United States barely budged in its international standing. It moved down four spots in per capita murders and stayed the same in total murders. That's inconsequential compared with the 186-spot jump the meme concocted.
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"The other lie in this claim is that all five of the named cities have stringent gun regulation. Louisiana, Michigan and Missouri would be very surprised to hear that!" said Philip Cook, a sociologist at Duke University.
The states didn't impress the Giffords Law Center, a pro-gun control group. Missouri ranked 48th, Louisiana 43rd, and Michigan 16th on a scale that gives higher rankings to restricted gun ownership and use.
. . .
The image said, "The United States is 3rd in murders throughout the world. If you remove Chicago, Detroit, Washington, St. Louis and New Orleans, the United States is then 189th out of 193 countries in the entire world."
By no measure is the United States third in total homicides or homicide rates. Excluding the named cities from the count had little to no impact on the United States' international standing.
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LMCane said:how come in Israel and Switzerland where there are massive amounts of fully automatic rifles being carried by citizens,Baseball Is Life said:Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats this is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
Mexico is a shinning example of your gun free utopia.
there is a tiny fraction of the number of shootings in the USA?
Demographics. Just read the posts above about the 13%ers. Also, there are a lot of criminal elements pouring across our open borders, so we have much more in common with Mexico rather than Israel or Switzerland.
tell me how that's working for meth, or fentanyl, or coke etc...Pylon Cam said:Dog whistle aside, those 13% would not have the same level of access to guns that they do now if not for Republican gun policy.DrEvazanPhD said:If you're a practical person, you look at the 13% causing more than 50% of these types of incidents.Pylon Cam said:
How many more shootings will it take for Republicans to wake up? All of this suffering, carnage, and death is not worth it.
If you are a Christian, or even if you just have any morals, you should be all for getting guns off the street.
Don't go blaming republicans for perpetuating a victim mentality.
Gun control works, but only if it's applied everywhere. Guns are trafficked into states with stricter gun control from states with weaker gun control that's why we have this issue.
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It is not purely a black issue. If it was, Mississippi, with the highest percentage black population in the US would have the highest violent crime rate in the US. It is not even close. DC has a violent crime rate nearly 4 times as high as MS in the most recent FBI stats available (2019). MS is mostly rural, and mostly run by republicans. DC is mostly urban and run entirely by democrats. Both have very high black populations. Only one of the two has a very high violent crime rate. Race is part of the issue, but urban culture and political control of the criminal justice system by democrats is part of the issue too.Nanomachines son said:japantiger said:73% of all murders happen in 5% of the counties in the US...Democrat controlled Urban centers. 52% of all counties have no murders. If we keep guns away from Democrats, crime will drop 90%. We all know the reason for this...Chicago, Detroit, Washington, DC, St Louis and Philadelphia drive the majority of it.LMCane said:how come in Israel and Switzerland where there are massive amounts of fully automatic rifles being carried by citizens,Baseball Is Life said:Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats this is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
Mexico is a shinning example of your gun free utopia.
there is a tiny fraction of the number of shootings in the USA?
The below is from that bastion of hard-right wing press, NPR: "most gun violence is very tightly concentrated on a small number of very high risk young Black male adults that have a shared set of common risk factors," https://npr.org/local/305/2022/02/21/1082103272/a-majority-of-d-c-s-gun-violence-is-driven-by-a-small-number-of-people-study-says……
It is not and never will be a democrat issue. Stop obfuscating the actual data. The issue is exclusively a racial one. Democrat controlled Vermont has almost no violent crime, why? Because it's like 95% white.
You people are engaging in the same type of data denial the left does. Stop doing it.
Hellya, bravo to them. Looks like this dude had a rifle AND a pistol. Two guns were cleared by brave females in the wider frame video.Broncos said:
Hero.NEW: The man who tackled a shooter at the Kansas City Chiefs parade speaks out, says he didn’t hesitate when he saw the shooter running by.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) February 15, 2024
Hero!
“I didn't hesitate. It was just do it. So I went to go tackle him and another gentleman did the same thing and as I'm tackling him,… pic.twitter.com/oFepskxkYW
I don't give a chit about the UK, Canada, Israel, Japan, or France. I care about the US. It's not just a race issue. It's a culture issue within a specific race. Did we have this issue 50-60 years ago? Or is this something relatively recent with the rise of fatherless homes? Single moms with multiple kids by multiple deadbeats? Music that glorifies guns, violence, sex, and abuse of women? Kids who choose education over ignorance being told they're acting white?Nanomachines son said:aTm2004 said:
Agree. It is a culture issue and the leaders within the black communities who call this out are ignored. As a society, we need to have the uncomfortable conversation if we really want to solve anything.
Culture does not explain why the UK, Canada, Israel, Japan, and France have the same racial breakdowns in violent crime. Why is it so hard for some of you to admit it literally is a racial issue?
I'm seriously asking, because I don't think black people who grew up in stable 2 parent homes with discipline and a push for education are causing these issues. I mean, Asians are always the lowest no matter where you look. Why is that? Because of strong family values and education being the foundation of their culture.
I know there are going to be black Ags reading this who are no different than you and I that are judged because of chit like this from of nothing more than their skin color, and it ****ing sucks and is wrong. They are not the same as the ****tards that commit violent crimes.
In a school filled with administrators, teachers, janitorial staff, parent volunteers, you came to the conclusion that kids should be strapped?TxAG#2011 said:Philip J Fry said:Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats. This is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
The answer to gun violence is to allow the innocent civilians to protect themselves.
So all those kids at Uvalde should have been strapped?
Did you think that was clever?
japantiger said:Blacks vote 90% Democrat. Blacks live predominantly in Democrat controlled urban centers. The top 20 cities in America have not had a Republican administration in 3 generations. The Venn Diagram is an almost perfect overlap.Nanomachines son said:japantiger said:73% of all murders happen in 5% of the counties in the US...Democrat controlled Urban centers. 52% of all counties have no murders. If we keep guns away from Democrats, crime will drop 90%. We all know the reason for this...Chicago, Detroit, Washington, DC, St Louis and Philadelphia drive the majority of it.LMCane said:how come in Israel and Switzerland where there are massive amounts of fully automatic rifles being carried by citizens,Baseball Is Life said:Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats this is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
Mexico is a shinning example of your gun free utopia.
there is a tiny fraction of the number of shootings in the USA?
The below is from that bastion of hard-right wing press, NPR: "most gun violence is very tightly concentrated on a small number of very high risk young Black male adults that have a shared set of common risk factors," https://npr.org/local/305/2022/02/21/1082103272/a-majority-of-d-c-s-gun-violence-is-driven-by-a-small-number-of-people-study-says……
It is not and never will be a democrat issue. Stop obfuscating the actual data. The issue is exclusively a racial one. Democrat controlled Vermont has almost no violent crime, why? Because it's like 95% white.
You people are engaging in the same type of data denial the left does. Stop doing it.
So? It's a black issue and will forever be a black issue. That won't change if they somehow began voting for the GOP.
El Gallo Blanco said:Nanomachines son said:japantiger said:73% of all murders happen in 5% of the counties in the US...Democrat controlled Urban centers. 52% of all counties have no murders. If we keep guns away from Democrats, crime will drop 90%. We all know the reason for this...Chicago, Detroit, Washington, DC, St Louis and Philadelphia drive the majority of it.LMCane said:how come in Israel and Switzerland where there are massive amounts of fully automatic rifles being carried by citizens,Baseball Is Life said:Pylon Cam said:It's disingenuous (at best) to pin this on Democrats this is 100% the fault of Republican gun policy.e=mc2 said:
Just another lawless, Democrat city. Democrats turn their cities into **** holes.
If we enacted common sense gun control, we'd see way less of this *****
Mexico is a shinning example of your gun free utopia.
there is a tiny fraction of the number of shootings in the USA?
The below is from that bastion of hard-right wing press, NPR: "most gun violence is very tightly concentrated on a small number of very high risk young Black male adults that have a shared set of common risk factors," https://npr.org/local/305/2022/02/21/1082103272/a-majority-of-d-c-s-gun-violence-is-driven-by-a-small-number-of-people-study-says……
It is not and never will be a democrat issue. Stop obfuscating the actual data. The issue is exclusively a racial one. Democrat controlled Vermont has almost no violent crime, why? Because it's like 95% white.
You people are engaging in the same type of data denial the left does. Stop doing it.
I think they play a decent role here. Over the decades look at what their policies have done to the black communities. Almost every one is a wasteland...with a large % hooked on the govt teet. There are almost no fathers present. They own almost no businesses. Schools are a disaster and literacy rates are shockingly bad. Crime is through the roof. And degeneracy is lauded. It was not always this way...even post slavery on through segregation, the gap was much smaller between average whites and blacks. Thomas Sowell (and very few others) does a great job of backing this up with actual data and statistics.
On top of that...the left has taken a very pro-criminal, anti-law and order approach. Follow the crime thread on the Houston board. Almost ZERO of these murderers should have been out on the streets.
I don't disagree entirely with you, just saying, the left has not helped.
The Democrat issue comes into play with regards to the punishment of crime but not who actually commits the most crime. The former can be fixed but the latter cannot. The former is a cultural one while the latter is a racial one.
El Salvador policy fixes the first one. Of course this by default will fix the second one because it will guaranteed lock up far more blacks on a per capita basis.
Deadly Kansas City parade shooting stemmed from personal dispute, wasn’t a terrorist attack: cops https://t.co/d5EXNFibKz pic.twitter.com/Pk7xha4QB3
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