Allegations Biden never signed anything

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Lest we forget, Biden didn't remember signing an EO "...pausing new permits for American liquid natural gas export to European allies ...". See link infra.

Johnson didn't let the story get out until right before inauguration. Maybe for fear the Biden Admin would sic the FBI on him?

https://nypost.com/2025/01/18/us-news/president-biden-insisted-he-didnt-sign-executive-order-just-weeks-after-doing-so-speaker-mike-johnson/
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Biden insisted he didn't sign executive order just weeks after doing so, Speaker Johnson reveals
By Matthew Sedacca Published Jan. 18, 2025, 3:37 p.m. ET

President Biden had no clue whether or not he signed a critical executive order during a conversation last year with Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson, who admitted he left the meeting fearing the nation is in "serious trouble."

An addled Biden insisted to the Louisiana lawmaker that he never issued the order to freeze new liquid natural gas export permits even though he signed off on it less than a month earlier.

Johnson told the Free Press' Bari Weiss he didn't believe Biden was lying, but was left to believe the then-81-year-old leader "genuinely didn't know what he had signed."

The troubling encounter happened in the Oval Office in early 2024, when the two met to discuss the latest aid package for Ukraine.

Afterwards, Johnson asked Biden why he had inked an executive order pausing new permits for American liquid natural gas export to European allies a crucial issue for his constituents in the Bayou State, which in 2023, handled 61% of the nation's LNG exports, according to the US Energy Information Administration.

"Why would you do that? Cause you understand we just talked about Ukraine, you understand you are fueling Vladimir Putin's war machine, because they gotta get their gas from him," Johnson said he told Biden.

Biden was stunned, Johnson said.

"I didn't do that," the president said, according to Johnson.


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In reply to WolfCall • 2:16p, 3/8/25
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WolfCall said:
Lest we forget, Biden didn't remember signing an EO "...pausing new permits for American liquid natural gas export to European allies ...". See link infra.

Johnson didn't let the story get out until right before inauguration. Maybe for fear the Biden Admin would sic the FBI on him?

https://nypost.com/2025/01/18/us-news/president-biden-insisted-he-didnt-sign-executive-order-just-weeks-after-doing-so-speaker-mike-johnson/
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Biden insisted he didn't sign executive order just weeks after doing so, Speaker Johnson reveals
By Matthew Sedacca Published Jan. 18, 2025, 3:37 p.m. ET

President Biden had no clue whether or not he signed a critical executive order during a conversation last year with Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson, who admitted he left the meeting fearing the nation is in "serious trouble."

An addled Biden insisted to the Louisiana lawmaker that he never issued the order to freeze new liquid natural gas export permits even though he signed off on it less than a month earlier.

Johnson told the Free Press' Bari Weiss he didn't believe Biden was lying, but was left to believe the then-81-year-old leader "genuinely didn't know what he had signed."

The troubling encounter happened in the Oval Office in early 2024, when the two met to discuss the latest aid package for Ukraine.

Afterwards, Johnson asked Biden why he had inked an executive order pausing new permits for American liquid natural gas export to European allies a crucial issue for his constituents in the Bayou State, which in 2023, handled 61% of the nation's LNG exports, according to the US Energy Information Administration.

"Why would you do that? Cause you understand we just talked about Ukraine, you understand you are fueling Vladimir Putin's war machine, because they gotta get their gas from him," Johnson said he told Biden.

Biden was stunned, Johnson said.

"I didn't do that," the president said, according to Johnson.

What's worse is he told Johnson afterwards that he DID remember signing the EO but it was for a study into the impact of supplying LNG to Europe. That's even more damning because it means not only did he not read his own EO but whoever was pulling his strings told him it was simply a study and not the outright pausing of new permits for LNG to export to Europe.

What a disaster...own it libs, this is what you voted for and sadly most will continue to vote for because you are unable to think critically.
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In reply to aggiez03 • 2:19p, 3/8/25
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aggiez03 said:
How would anyone know this and how would it be proven?

Sounds like another theory...

Why would this guy want to pardon Biden's family?
Because Jill told him to.

I can't wait for the Dems to cry 'conspiracy theory', cause then I'll know its true.
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In reply to FriendlyAg • 5:05p, 3/8/25
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FriendlyAg said:
No link in the x post, but no blue check mark "liberal tear creator".

I wouldn't be totally surprised, but come on man!
I'm curious how people find these accounts. We've had so many "big if true" threads here.
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In reply to Jugstore Cowboy • 6:50p, 3/8/25
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FriendlyAg said:
No link in the x post, but no blue check mark "liberal tear creator".

I wouldn't be totally surprised, but come on man!
I'm curious how people find these accounts. We've had so many "big if true" threads here.


Big if true!!
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4:27p, 3/9/25
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-autopen-signature-official-docs-raising-concerns-over-who-controlled-wh-report

Closer to legit than the random X account in the OP.

If provable surely that is grounds for necks to snap at the end of a rope?
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Btw, Jeff is Obama's guy and a total globalist.

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In reply to techno-ag • 5:44p, 3/9/25
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Devastating if true. It's one of those things that SHOULD be far fetched but with how much the Biden Administration tried to snow the American people about how he was always "sharp as a tack," etc. … it's perfectly reasonable to presume there might be some truth to this.
Accusations without any proof only undermines conservatives credibility. Right wingers need to stop unless they've got solid proof instead of posting stuff just for click bait. But then again…..that's the problem with America, no one really cares anymore. It's all about attracting attention and getting $$.
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In reply to one safe place • 6:25p, 3/9/25
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TAMUallen said:
Did Biden ever really do anything himself?!
Just shower with his daughter.

Just shower did something with his daughter in the shower.
FIFY
#FJB
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In reply to Garrelli 5000 • 6:32p, 3/9/25
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Garrelli 5000 said:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-autopen-signature-official-docs-raising-concerns-over-who-controlled-wh-report

Closer to legit than the random X account in the OP.

If provable surely that is grounds for necks to snap at the end of a rope?
There is no remedy at this time even if Biden never signed a GD thing.

None that I can see, anyway.
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Zients has to have some court docs somewhere he signed. Would be interesting to pull those and compare handwriting.
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FTAG 2000 said:
Zients has to have some court docs somewhere he signed. Would be interesting to pull those and compare handwriting.
Not if he was using Biden's autopen. His handwriting would not be involved? Or am I missing something?
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6:52p, 3/9/25
Seems that President Trump is signing most if not all in front of a camera, makes me wonder a little.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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In reply to richardag • 7:06p, 3/9/25
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richardag said:
Seems that President Trump is signing most if not all in front of a camera, makes me wonder a little.
Where is that Oval Office recording system when we need it?
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An "auto-pen" signature would be exactly the same... little variation if any on all the documents?

Even the indentation on the paper would only vary with the actual paper the sig. is affected to, yes (paper, parchment)? Even the ink on multiple docs would be exactly the same?

Need to get some under oath testimony from joey b's inner circle on what the heck went on in the Oval Office, West Wing, and the Executive Office Building.
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Biden and Dak Prescott have something in common.

https://www.beckett.com/news/dak-prescott-autographs-recalled-by-panini/
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In reply to aggiehawg • 8:51p, 3/9/25
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aggiehawg said:
Garrelli 5000 said:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-autopen-signature-official-docs-raising-concerns-over-who-controlled-wh-report

Closer to legit than the random X account in the OP.

If provable surely that is grounds for necks to snap at the end of a rope?
There is no remedy at this time even if Biden never signed a GD thing.

None that I can see, anyway.
Thank you.
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In reply to techno-ag • 10:04a, 3/10/25
techno-ag said:


Devastating if true. It's one of those things that SHOULD be far fetched but with how much the Biden Administration tried to snow the American people about how he was always "sharp as a tack," etc. … it's perfectly reasonable to presume there might be some truth to this.
Can we use even the slightest amount of brain power when pilfering obvious fake propaganda?

IF YOU NEWS SOURCE IS TWITTER, STOP BLINDLY SHARING IT.
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In reply to Hullabaloonatic • 10:06a, 3/10/25
Hullabaloonatic said:
techno-ag said:
Devastating if true. It's one of those things that SHOULD be far fetched but with how much the Biden Administration tried to snow the American people about how he was always "sharp as a tack," etc. … it's perfectly reasonable to presume there might be some truth to this.
Can we use even the slightest amount of brain power when pilfering obvious fake propaganda?

IF YOU NEWS SOURCE IS TWITTER, STOP BLINDLY SHARING IT.
What part do you take issue with? Do you believe Joe Biden made any significant decisions as president?
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All this true or not only underscores the real atrocity -- We still have no formal accounting and declaration who the members of the shadow government were and who made policy in Biden's name with his figurehead.
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In reply to titan • 10:10a, 3/10/25
Those are question people like Hulla are trying to distract from. The government was run by someone not accountable in our system of government (that means ILLEGAL). Who?
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In reply to TAMUallen • 10:13a, 3/10/25
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Did Biden ever really do anything himself?!
Shower with his teenage daughter.
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In reply to Hullabaloonatic • 10:20a, 3/10/25
Hullabaloonatic said:
techno-ag said:


Devastating if true. It's one of those things that SHOULD be far fetched but with how much the Biden Administration tried to snow the American people about how he was always "sharp as a tack," etc. … it's perfectly reasonable to presume there might be some truth to this.
Can we use even the slightest amount of brain power when pilfering obvious fake propaganda?

IF YOU NEWS SOURCE IS TWITTER, STOP BLINDLY SHARING IT.
Did you forget the fact that President Biden said categorically he did not sign one of his EOs? Seems this raises the question that maybe something suspicious happened.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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In reply to richardag • 10:28a, 3/10/25
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Devastating if true. It's one of those things that SHOULD be far fetched but with how much the Biden Administration tried to snow the American people about how he was always "sharp as a tack," etc. … it's perfectly reasonable to presume there might be some truth to this.
Hullabaloonatic said:
Can we use even the slightest amount of brain power when pilfering obvious fake propaganda?

IF YOU NEWS SOURCE IS TWITTER, STOP BLINDLY SHARING IT.
Did you forget the fact that President Biden said categorically he did not sign one of his EOs? Seems this raises the question that maybe something suspicious happened.
So what is the more plausible way to reverse the FJB signature? 1. Joe signs and found not mentally fit to sign legal documents 2. Have another sign them and fight that battle

Not sure which yields a higher chance of winning, assuming that was the thought process....


What if, this was a Barack set up to burn Joe and his family? Purposely sabotage his presidency. So many Clancy novels ready for the big screen.
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In reply to richardag • 10:31a, 3/10/25
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richardag said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
techno-ag said:


Devastating if true. It's one of those things that SHOULD be far fetched but with how much the Biden Administration tried to snow the American people about how he was always "sharp as a tack," etc. … it's perfectly reasonable to presume there might be some truth to this.
Can we use even the slightest amount of brain power when pilfering obvious fake propaganda?

IF YOU NEWS SOURCE IS TWITTER, STOP BLINDLY SHARING IT.
Did you forget the fact that President Biden said categorically he did not sign one of his EOs? Seems this raises the question that maybe something suspicious happened.



Biden said he didn't sign the EO, but he also backtracked and said he did sign it but thought that it was for something different. He likely wasn't reading or verifying most of what he was signing like any regular person didn't read TOS and the fine print on contracts, and that's also a far cry from what's alleged and claimed in the Twitter post

And that's exactly how a lot of propaganda works. Use something with a grain of truth and then transform it into something else. Was Biden sometimes a potato? Definitely. Was he able to have a coherent conversation on policy with Johnson (and many others) throughout his presidency? Also definitely. The idea that he was a vegetable and everything that came out of the admin was illegally done by someone else is nothing more than divisive propaganda that's a hop, skip, and jump from the reality that Biden was probably taken advantage of at points, but still somewhat in control.
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In reply to IndividualFreedom • 10:32a, 3/10/25
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Devastating if true. It's one of those things that SHOULD be far fetched but with how much the Biden Administration tried to snow the American people about how he was always "sharp as a tack," etc. … it's perfectly reasonable to presume there might be some truth to this.
Hullabaloonatic said:
Can we use even the slightest amount of brain power when pilfering obvious fake propaganda?

IF YOU NEWS SOURCE IS TWITTER, STOP BLINDLY SHARING IT.
Did you forget the fact that President Biden said categorically he did not sign one of his EOs? Seems this raises the question that maybe something suspicious happened.
So what is the more plausible way to reverse the FJB signature? 1. Joe signs and found not mentally fit to sign legal documents 2. Have another sign them and fight that battle

Not sure which yields a higher chance of winning, assuming that was the thought process....


What if, this was a Barack set up to burn Joe and his family? Purposely sabotage his presidency. So many Clancy novels ready for the big screen.
All it really can do is arguably provide the ethical high ground (if such is even desired) for ignoring an EO explicitly anti-US interest in character. If anything rates just a "well we go with the the its self-evident an EO can be undone by an EO take" until forced otherwise, this does.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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In reply to richardag • 10:32a, 3/10/25
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richardag said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
techno-ag said:


Devastating if true. It's one of those things that SHOULD be far fetched but with how much the Biden Administration tried to snow the American people about how he was always "sharp as a tack," etc. … it's perfectly reasonable to presume there might be some truth to this.
Can we use even the slightest amount of brain power when pilfering obvious fake propaganda?

IF YOU NEWS SOURCE IS TWITTER, STOP BLINDLY SHARING IT.
Did you forget the fact that President Biden said categorically he did not sign one of his EOs? Seems this raises the question that maybe something suspicious happened.
What I think is just as bad is that he later clarified that he did sign the EO but was told it was a "study" of the impact of us sending LNG to Europe and not a complete shutdown of sending it.

Basically he signed an EO where his handler directly lied to him on the contents of it knowing Biden would never read it.

Hulla voted for this clown show and doubled down by voting for the drunk cackler. Remember that when Hulla tries to lecture you on anything.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 10:35a, 3/10/25
Let me help you out: Biden has no idea what he did or didn't sign. The only people who know are those who ran the WH for four years. It wasn't Joe, and they'll never tell us who it was.
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Ellis Wyatt said:
Let me help you out: Biden has no idea what he did or didn't sign. The only people who know are those who ran the WH for four years. It wasn't Joe, and they'll never tell us who it was.
They won't, but the Trump administration should learn and tell everyone. So it is known who to never let near power again.
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They won't, but the Trump administration should learn and tell everyone. So it is known who to never let near power again.
You are assuming the Biden White House kept visitor and call logs. That whole cocaine in the WH disputes that they did.

We know for a fact, there were no visitor logs at either Wilmington nor Rehoboth, much less all of the other vacation houses he stayed in.
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They won't, but the Trump administration should learn and tell everyone. So it is known who to never let near power again.
You are assuming the Biden White House kept visitor and call logs. That whole cocaine in the WH disputes that they did.

We know for a fact, there were no visitor logs at either Wilmington nor Rehoboth, much less all of the other vacation houses he stayed in.
Most transparent admin ever!!!
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FTAG 2000 said:
Zients has to have some court docs somewhere he signed. Would be interesting to pull those and compare handwriting.
He signed with an auto pen
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They won't, but the Trump administration should learn and tell everyone. So it is known who to never let near power again.
You are assuming the Biden White House kept visitor and call logs. That whole cocaine in the WH disputes that they did.

We know for a fact, there were no visitor logs at either Wilmington nor Rehoboth, much less all of the other vacation houses he stayed in.
Just question Secret Service and look at their records. There would be definite clues.
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