Allegations Biden never signed anything

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Im Gipper
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aggiehawg said:

Im Gipper said:

The "influencers" are pushing the Brown is not legitimate story on X. Anything for the clicks!
There have been a lot of times I am happy I never decided to sign up for Twitter/X.

This is one of those times.
Here is an example of what I was talking about:



I have to assume Posobiec knows it not true, but people eat it up!

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Quote:

Here is an example of what I was talking about:



I have to assume Posobiec knows it not true, but people eat it up!
Well, it is true that the appointment is technically invalid if Biden didn't make it, but it is impossible to prove that is the case. Plus, Congress confirmed her already.

People should be outraged.
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There is video of Biden nominating her, so unless someone proves that was a plant, its all bluster.


But yes, everyone should be outraged over this "autopen" story. (I put that in quotes because the real story is not the autopen itself, but who was using it and who was directing it to be used!)

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I say do away with the autopen altogether. Use a plain rubber stamp for unimportant, insignificant instances, i.e., routine proclamations, congratulatory docs., birthday cards, etc. No confusion...no drama!
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Im Gipper said:

There is video of Biden nominating her, so unless someone proves that was a plant, its all bluster.
I agree with that. I think people say things the way Posobiec did because they want people to realize the gravity of it all. It is insane that these things are happening right in front of our faces.
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So what if someone use the auto pin in Biden didn't actually sign anything. If he authorize them to use the auto pin is that still valid?

When he dies soon, what happens after that with respect to whether he authorize someone to sign with the auto pen or not?
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jt2hunt said:

So what if someone use the auto pin in Biden didn't actually sign anything. If he authorize them to use the auto pin is that still valid?

When he dies soon, what happens after that with respect to whether he authorize someone to sign with the auto pen or not?

It's much worse than the Russian collusion hoax or anything Trump supposedly did. There should be an equitable investigation on par with all that was brought against Trump and the Jan 6ers.
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They need to prosecute people and start holding them accountable. Otherwise the grift will just continue.
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jt2hunt said:

They need to prosecute people and start holding them accountable. Otherwise the grift will just continue.
Oh, we're waaaay beyond grift.

Our 545 elected souls, of which 20% are likely bribed and blackmailed, know that when we hit $60 tr
illion, or so, it's 50% to 150% inflation every single year in order to pay the debt we can't pay.

These same souls only have control over 15% of our budget. Everything else is on auto pilot.

I'm sorry to say, but IF they really want to get things under control, they're going to have to revise, rewrite, or do something with Medicaid/Medicare, Obamacare, and the VA medical services. In 2024, those three were over $2 trillion dollars of our budget. Throw in defense spending of $1 trillion and another $1 trillion in interest payments, and you're at $4 trillion.

So if you want to make a difference, those three medical issues and defense are the MAIN issues. Good luck with that. It would require genuinely good men and women to get it done. Out of our 545 on the hill, maybe 40 are good humans. That ain't enough. If any of those 545 have children, they're selling their children to certain poverty.

From the one world government folks, THIS is the best way to destroy our constitution and therefore destroy the country.
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This is backed by data.
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If you wanted to be honest about the spending, how many trillions are due to inflation? Even at 2% or less it is not a nominal figure.

So, how much spending is purely economic adjusted, how much is discretionary, and how much of that is absolutely unnecessary?

Much of what I observe back and forth is simply noise.

Musk tried to get serious about it, and libs firebombed his companies.
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flown-the-coop said:

If you wanted to be honest about the spending, how many trillions are due to inflation? Even at 2% or less it is not a nominal figure.

So, how much spending is purely economic adjusted, how much is discretionary, and how much of that is absolutely unnecessary?

Much of what I observe back and forth is simply noise.

Musk tried to get serious about it, and libs firebombed his companies.
Wow!

A question about our debt and deficit I've never thought about.

On the inflation front, my initial guess would be that within 1-3 years, all salaries and commissions will have caught up with inflation, and therefore taxes. Yes, tax revenue to the govt. will be lagging inflation, but commissions and salaries will have to keep up with the inflation eventually for those corporations and companies to hire employees by merit, if that makes sense. It will just be extremely painful for employees for those 1-3 years. But, tax revenue won't keep up with Cost of living adjustments to medicare/medicaid, Obamacare, and VA medical unless those percentages are raised by govt..


Under the "keeping the faith" segment pertaining to your Musk comment, remember, this is just a reconciliation. There's an entire budget process coming up later this year after they return from the August recess. Those DOGE cuts will be addressed then. The funny thing about those DOGE cuts is Trump cut USAID (which they're already *****ing about) but not National Endowment for Democracy (NED). NED is nearly as bad and it's a CIA cutout too.
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This is backed by data.
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fasthorse05 said:

flown-the-coop said:

If you wanted to be honest about the spending, how many trillions are due to inflation? Even at 2% or less it is not a nominal figure.

So, how much spending is purely economic adjusted, how much is discretionary, and how much of that is absolutely unnecessary?

Much of what I observe back and forth is simply noise.

Musk tried to get serious about it, and libs firebombed his companies.
Wow!

A question about our debt and deficit I've never thought about.

On the inflation front, my initial guess would be that within 1-3 years, all salaries and commissions will have caught up with inflation, and therefore taxes. Yes, tax revenue to the govt. will be lagging inflation, but commissions and salaries will have to keep up with the inflation eventually for those corporations and companies to hire employees by merit, if that makes sense. It will just be extremely painful for employees for those 1-3 years. But, tax revenue won't keep up with Cost of living adjustments to medicare/medicaid, Obamacare, and VA medical unless those percentages are raised by govt..


Under the "keeping the faith" segment pertaining to your Musk comment, remember, this is just a reconciliation. There's an entire budget process coming up later this year after they return from the August recess. Those DOGE cuts will be addressed then. The funny thing about those DOGE cuts is Trump cut USAID (which they're already *****ing about) but not National Endowment for Democracy (NED). NED is nearly as bad and it's a CIA cutout too.



I have nothing against the US government spending some money around the world to grease our foreign policy. I don't have a problem when it's completely Marxist garbage. In our efforts to be too cute we've allowed them to be disbursed from 30 different entities with varying levels of control. We just need to go back to the 80s, and say are of our dollars are to slow down China and its hangers on.
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I have nothing against the US government spending some money around the world to grease our foreign policy. I don't have a problem when it's completely Marxist garbage.


It was never "our", as in "We, the people," foreign policy that was being greased. It was the globalist blob's policy formulated by people like George Soros and Klaus Schwab and Norm Eisen that was being being greased. It was Marxist garbage because the agenda of the globalist politburo **is** Marxist garbage everywhere all the time. This money wasn't promoting despotism abroad to obtain liberty and prosperity at home. It was funding despotism through regime change abroad to set the stage for regime change, despotism, and Marxist garbage to replace the Constitutional United States.

These are bad people doing bad things for bad reasons. They broke more than enough laws to justify imprisoning and impoverishing them and having their names written in history next to Benedict Arnold and Alger Hiss.
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Im Gipper said:




"Prob sit one out this weekend gramps"

(From p. 1)
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Early morning musings! Tells me this is Big.

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Does anyone believe Biden was functional at all? Even if they had him signing things with a pen, I 100% doubt he had any idea what was going on.

How does it even matter what was done when we all know he wasn't really there or in charge? How does that even happen in a country as powerful as the US?
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Too many layers of privilege keep this from ever being more than an interesting story, footnote.

However, it is effective at demonstrating the Biden admins corruption and the coverup of his dementia (and their willful deceit of the American people).

Who used the autopen is kept in the same place the missing minutes from the Nixon tapes are.
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We need to go back to every EO, bill, etc.

Anything signed by autopen should be nullified
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Aggie95 said:

We need to go back to every EO, bill, etc.

Anything signed by autopen should be nullified
That will never be the case and I do not think the Trump DoJ is going to claim this is how it will go!

If Sleepy Joe was laying on the sofa in the Oval Office and told Klain to use the autopen to sign an EO on his desk, it appears that is valid!

Of course, on the far other end of the spectrum, Hunter using the autopen on how own? Nullify and lock him up!

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will25u said:



So I guess there is a House Oversight hearing today on Auto Pen Biden. Trump waived executive privilege for one of the guests.




Hat tip to will25u from the communist judges thread.
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techno-ag said:

will25u said:



So I guess there is a House Oversight hearing today on Auto Pen Biden. Trump waived executive privilege for one of the guests.




Hat tip to will25u from the communist judges thread.
Of course, as we know, nothing will happen.
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aggiez03 said:

How would anyone know this and how would it be proven?

Sounds like another theory...

Why would this guy want to pardon Biden's family?



Fear of trials and compelled testimony about the facts that led to those pardons.
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Bryanisbest said:

aggiez03 said:

How would anyone know this and how would it be proven?

Sounds like another theory...

Why would this guy want to pardon Biden's family?



Fear of trials and compelled testimony about the facts that led to those pardons.


That doesn't answer his question. Zients can still be compelled to testify and face trial about any facts, related to the pardons or not.

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Im Gipper said:

Aggie95 said:

We need to go back to every EO, bill, etc.

Anything signed by autopen should be nullified
That will never be the case and I do not think the Trump DoJ is going to claim this is how it will go!

If Sleepy Joe was laying on the sofa in the Oval Office and told Klain to use the autopen to sign an EO on his desk, it appears that is valid!

Of course, on the far other end of the spectrum, Hunter using the autopen on how own? Nullify and lock him up!
Me either. But I think you will see some laws/regulations that the Autopen can no longer be used going forward. If the president cannot sign something b/c he's mentally deficient, than he needs to be removed from office.
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At least kick every illegal off of entitlements. That's an easy place to start that is an 80/20 issue.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-biden-aide-admits-congress-she-directed-autopen-signatures-without-knowing-who-gave-final-approval
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"closed-door testimony"

What a crock!

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My suggestion...Ask Joe to individually name (without assistance) the EO's, Pardons, Commutations that he authorized the use of the autopen. Any that he cannot name be declared invalid and eliminated. That should dismiss about half or two thirds. As for the rest...make him give his reasons for its issuance. Again...if he cannot provide a reasonable response...send to the round file. I would imagine we'd be down to 2 or 3 at that point.
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techno-ag said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-biden-aide-admits-congress-she-directed-autopen-signatures-without-knowing-who-gave-final-approval
Charge her with sedition. If she lacked certainty that Biden himself instructed his signature be applied to legal docs: then that's forgery.
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Im Gipper said:



Early morning musings! Tells me this is Big.
And he is right. This is the biggest scandal in US history. If true we lived in an unelected dictatorship for 4 years. Nothing in our history comes close outside the Civil War.
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Make him testify, absolutely.
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