swimmerbabe11 said:

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I'm against police cars with the ghost graphics trying to hide out in ditches to catch speeders too. (they should also have to obey all traffic laws unless they have lights and sirens on too, but that's a different thread) When you agree to join the military/police/LEO of any kind, you are aware of the risks. Retribution has been a risk forever.

On the surface level, this was a college student with a legal visa whose only alleged crime was having opinions, and she was engaged in perfectly lawful activity of going to a place of worship when assaulted by men in hoodies and masks who claimed to be police officers.

That is wild. If I were her I would have been fighting for my life, assuming I was being kidnapped and I would keep fighting until uniformed officers showed up or I was incapacitated. Why would I believe that some strange men in hoodies and masks were cops?

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Yes, I agree the arrest was scary for her. Like a kidnapping

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Amazing how entitled Foreigners feel towards taking American money and resources

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What's new about this? Happening for 50+ years.
We funded dictators and terrorists for decades.
Because they were "our terrorists". Until they weren't.

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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I'm against police cars with the ghost graphics trying to hide out in ditches to catch speeders too. (they should also have to obey all traffic laws unless they have lights and sirens on too, but that's a different thread) When you agree to join the military/police/LEO of any kind, you are aware of the risks. Retribution has been a risk forever.

On the surface level, this was a college student with a legal visa whose only alleged crime was having opinions, and she was engaged in perfectly lawful activity of going to a place of worship when assaulted by men in hoodies and masks who claimed to be police officers.

That is wild. If I were her I would have been fighting for my life, assuming I was being kidnapped and I would keep fighting until uniformed officers showed up or I was incapacitated. Why would I believe that some strange men in hoodies and masks were cops?

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Yes, I agree the arrest was scary for her. Like a kidnapping

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Maybe fewer radical Muslims will come here the more they see that you can get snatched up and detained/deported for raising hell here.

Imagine the astronomical sense of entitlement...to go to another country across the globe, and immediately start protesting and proselytizing and trying to force "change". Trying to get them to bow to your culture.

I cannot imagine being such an entitled and ungrateful POS to be honest. I would fully expect Japan to be like "nah, kanichiwa, GTFO white boy" if I pulled that sh** there.

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Slicer97 said:

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Yes, it was poorly executed.

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This was bad. Agents wearing hoodies dragging a woman off to prison for an Op-ed or legally protesting is very bad. Revoking her visa is questionable, but what they did to her is an outrage. This is like when Biden's DOJ sent 15 goons to arrest a guy for some minor incident that local PD didn't think warranted an investigation.

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Thank you.

Did you even read what you posted or just take the first sentence???? It states the protections can be used to varying degrees. You aren't going to have protections when you are in a foreign country writing in support of a terrorist organization. Why are democrats so obtuse?

How dare you give these cry babies a legitimate counter point to their false claims.

Tom Fox said:

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This is following due process. If the govt revoked her visa she no longer has legal status. The agents assigned to remove people without status arrested her. That initiates the removal process.

Post arrest, she will be served with removal documents and have a chance to argue her case to an immigration judge or waive that and be removed to her home country more quickly.

Please point out where due process was not afforded.

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Great post. I am also going to add this for the "omg why aren't the ICE agents showing their faces?!" crowd. You know how many people have been brainwashed into thinking they are literal NAZIS? You know how many people would be fine seeing every single one of them executed?

They probably want to remain relatively anonymous for the same reason police officers seizing drugs and 14k gold guns from cartel members do.

Liberals are violent and basically comprise the largest hate group in the world.

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How dare you give these cry babies a legitimate counter point to their false claims.

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Since I used to do this job, I just figured I would explain what and why it is happening this way.

Apparently my posts are kryptonite though, Zero responses.

Tom Fox said:

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AGpops1923 said:

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How dare you give these cry babies a legitimate counter point to their false claims.

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Since I used to do this job, I just figured I would explain what and why it is happening this way.

Apparently my posts are kryptonite though, Zero responses.

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Too many people thinking with their feels.

Democrats are doxing owners of vehicles to have them assaulted, openly accosting them and blowing up or shooting car dealerships because their feelings are hurt.

I have no issue with masked police/ice officers. Leftists will have their families murdered if they find out who they are for simply detaining someone

She wasn't aware of her visa being revoked, she wasn't made aware of anything during her arrest in the video, they grabbed a hold of her before they identified themselves (which I don't think they ever did to an extent that would satisfy me if I were in her place), they didn't give her access to her consulate rep or a lawyer or family members for over 24 hours, from my understanding they didn't tell any of those people that they were moving her to Louisiana, etc etc. All of this because of wrongthink opinions. If there was anything more nefarious going on than the op-ed, Rubio would have said it by now instead of being cagey.

I hope her lawyers are good at their jobs.

swimmerbabe11 said:

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She wasn't aware of her visa being revoked, she wasn't made aware of anything during her arrest in the video, they grabbed a hold of her before they identified themselves (which I don't think they ever did to an extent that would satisfy me if I were in her place), they didn't give her access to her consulate rep or a lawyer or family members for over 24 hours, from my understanding they didn't tell any of those people that they were moving her to Louisiana, etc etc. All of this because of wrongthink opinions. If there was anything more nefarious going on than the op-ed, Rubio would have said it by now instead of being cagey.

I hope her lawyers are good at their jobs.

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Key is not to be in her place. Don't go to another country on a visa that can be revoked in the blink of an eye and be a loudmouth trouble making a-hole.

Regarding Rubio's statements, yeah, he didn't spell out exactly what she did, but it reads to me, as if it was more than just writing an op-ed. Who knows, maybe we will find out more.

I have a VERY hard time believing it was just for writing an opinion piece. But I am still fine with her removal over it, if that's all she did. We need to learn from Europe and stop taking entitled anti-western/antisemitic Muslim troublemakers in.

swimmerbabe11 said:

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She wasn't aware of her visa being revoked, she wasn't made aware of anything during her arrest in the video, they grabbed a hold of her before they identified themselves (which I don't think they ever did to an extent that would satisfy me if I were in her place), they didn't give her access to her consulate rep or a lawyer or family members for over 24 hours, from my understanding they didn't tell any of those people that they were moving her to Louisiana, etc etc. All of this because of wrongthink opinions. If there was anything more nefarious going on than the op-ed, Rubio would have said it by now instead of being cagey.

I hope her lawyers are good at their jobs.

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I just watched the video. They are not wearing masks.

Looks like they were wearing their badges around their necks. Pretty standard.

You cannot hear what they are saying. They are probably not yelling as to not cause a scene.

They have 72 hours to notify the consulate.

And they can move her to whatever ICE detention facility they want to have her wait for an immigration hearing.

What else you got?

This doesn't really register on my radar at all. A non-citizen in our country at our pleasure who supports a terrorist organization. Get her out.

what are you talking about? their faces are absolutely covered.

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what are you talking about? their faces are absolutely covered.

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Are you Fing blind? The first guy is wearing a hoodie and you can't see his entire face from the camera angle and the second guy has a ball cap. Those were the agents that initiated contact.

another lady with long black hair also walks up and makes sure to pull something over her face too.


all in ball caps and hoodies sneaking this whisking this woman off the street for having unsavory opinions. Revoking her visa and sending people after her before she's even notified. Its not normal and shouldn't be normalized.

swimmerbabe11 said:

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Hornbeck said:

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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Why were the officers plain clothes/in masks?

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So they don't get doxxed and have their houses burned down.

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I don't think that's a good enough reason.

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Until we get democrats to stop burning down police stations and tesla dealerships, it will have to do

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man i never knew if your a foreigner in a foreign land you should watch your p's and q's. who knew? brittany griner knows. and now this chick is going to find out as well.

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We aren't Russia and should not strive to be.

I am sure the Hamas supporters are broken hearted over this news as well!!

‘Migrant influencer’ who urged other illegals to squat in US homes deported to Venezuela https://t.co/KIl5ttueRm pic.twitter.com/rmtDaqbOq7

— New York Post (@nypost) March 28, 2025

swimmerbabe11 said:

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what are you talking about? their faces are absolutely covered.

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They would be borderline psychotic or suicidal to show their faces imo. You know how many people would immediately want them dead?

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Yeah, its just an article, then just pull the visa and make her go home unless she is doing something that is going to cause immediate harm. No need for the cloak and dagger stuff.

However, I would like to know if she was doing something beyond just writing an article.

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Would be great to know, but according to this administration she has no right to due process so we may never know.

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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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man i never knew if your a foreigner in a foreign land you should watch your p's and q's. who knew? brittany griner knows. and now this chick is going to find out as well.

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We aren't Russia and should not strive to be.

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And we didn't respond like Russia. If this girl rots in jail for a long time, get back to me.

We should be able to send extremists on temp student visas back to their home country if they show that their cultural values don't align with ours. I cannot believe there are reasonable people on here who disagree with this.

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Broseph said:

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Yeah, its just an article, then just pull the visa and make her go home unless she is doing something that is going to cause immediate harm. No need for the cloak and dagger stuff.

However, I would like to know if she was doing something beyond just writing an article.

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Would be great to know, but according to this administration she has no right to due process so we may never know.

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From Tom Fox at bottom of prior page:

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This is following due process. If the govt revoked her visa she no longer has legal status. The agents assigned to remove people without status arrested her. That initiates the removal process.

Post arrest, she will be served with removal documents and have a chance to argue her case to an immigration judge or waive that and be removed to her home country more quickly.

Please point out where due process was not afforded.

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I feel like there are some folks in this thread that didn't ever realize the US Gov revokes VISAs and Green Cards for the ****tiest of reasons, including their own mistakes.

It's been happening for years.
You have freedom to speak.
The government can revoke your VISA. If you are on a Visa, choose what you do wisely.

swimmerbabe11 said:

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another lady with long black hair also walks up and makes sure to pull something over her face too.


all in ball caps and hoodies sneaking this whisking this woman off the street for having unsavory opinions. Revoking her visa and sending people after her before she's even notified. Its not normal and shouldn't be normalized.

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Am I talking to a woman?

I'll say it again, the agents that initiated contact did not have their faces covered and were wearing their badges around their necks.

Just because your "feelz" got ruffled, does not make it illegal.

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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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man i never knew if your a foreigner in a foreign land you should watch your p's and q's. who knew? brittany griner knows. and now this chick is going to find out as well.

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We aren't Russia and should not strive to be.

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If we were Russia she would be in prison for a decade.
Stop with the theatrics.

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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another lady with long black hair also walks up and makes sure to pull something over her face too.


all in ball caps and hoodies sneaking this whisking this woman off the street for having unsavory opinions. Revoking her visa and sending people after her before she's even notified. Its not normal and shouldn't be normalized.

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Am I talking to a woman?

I'll say it again, the agents that initiated contact did not have their faces covered and were wearing their badges around their necks.

Just because your "feelz" got ruffled, does not make it illegal.

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They are crazy for showing full faces imo. Balls the size of church bells. Hope they can remain anonymous and well hidden from the violent psychotic leftists. Prayers for these courageous public servants and their families. Removing radical muslim non-citizens is a tremendous service to society and paves the way for a more stable and safer place, and superior culture, for my offspring.

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Tom Fox said:

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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another lady with long black hair also walks up and makes sure to pull something over her face too.


all in ball caps and hoodies sneaking this whisking this woman off the street for having unsavory opinions. Revoking her visa and sending people after her before she's even notified. Its not normal and shouldn't be normalized.

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Am I talking to a woman?

I'll say it again, the agents that initiated contact did not have their faces covered and were wearing their badges around their necks.

Just because your "feelz" got ruffled, does not make it illegal.

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They are crazy for showing full faces imo. Balls the size of church bells. Hope they can remain anonymous and well hidden fromo the violent psychotic leftists.

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It's not like Democrats have been destroying property, or doxxing folks .

None of the 1A warriors in this thread gave 2 ****s during Covid.
Not a single one.

This fake righteous indignation, fools no one.

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Tom Fox said:

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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another lady with long black hair also walks up and makes sure to pull something over her face too.


all in ball caps and hoodies sneaking this whisking this woman off the street for having unsavory opinions. Revoking her visa and sending people after her before she's even notified. Its not normal and shouldn't be normalized.

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Am I talking to a woman?

I'll say it again, the agents that initiated contact did not have their faces covered and were wearing their badges around their necks.

Just because your "feelz" got ruffled, does not make it illegal.

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They are crazy for showing full faces imo. Balls the size of church bells. Hope they can remain anonymous and well hidden fromo the violent psychotic leftists.

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It's not like Democrats have been destroying property, or doxxing folks .

None of the 1A warriors in this thread gave 2 ****s during Covid.
Not a single one.

This fake righteous indignation, fools no one.

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Swimmerbabe is the exception imo. I don't think she was a Covid zealot, and definitely doesn't seem like a left winger.

But yeah, to add to y our point, also almost a direct correlation with those who wanted a lot of us fired for making our own medical decisions.

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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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man i never knew if your a foreigner in a foreign land you should watch your p's and q's. who knew? brittany griner knows. and now this chick is going to find out as well.

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We aren't Russia and should not strive to be.

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And we didn't respond like Russia. If this girl rots in jail for a long time, get back to me.

We should be able to send extremists on temp student visas back to their home country if they show that their cultural values don't align with ours. I cannot believe there are reasonable people on here who disagree with this.

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What we should do is STOP allowing in folks whose cultural values don't align with ours.
There is ZERO value in doing that.

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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She wasn't aware of her visa being revoked, she wasn't made aware of anything during her arrest in the video, they grabbed a hold of her before they identified themselves (which I don't think they ever did to an extent that would satisfy me if I were in her place), they didn't give her access to her consulate rep or a lawyer or family members for over 24 hours, from my understanding they didn't tell any of those people that they were moving her to Louisiana, etc etc. All of this because of wrongthink opinions. If there was anything more nefarious going on than the op-ed, Rubio would have said it by now instead of being cagey.

I hope her lawyers are good at their jobs.

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I just watched the video. They are not wearing masks.

Looks like they were wearing their badges around their necks. Pretty standard.

You cannot hear what they are saying. They are probably not yelling as to not cause a scene.

They have 72 hours to notify the consulate.

And they can move her to whatever ICE detention facility they want to have her wait for an immigration hearing.

What else you got?

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Tom Fox, thanks for your posts on this topic!

I didn't know swimmerbabe11 was a Dem.

deddog said:

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I feel like there are some folks in this thread that didn't ever realize the US Gov revokes VISAs and Green Cards for the ****tiest of reasons, including their own mistakes.

It's been happening for years.
You have freedom to speak.
The government can revoke your VISA. If you are on a Visa, choose what you do wisely.

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Yep. Pretty logical.

infinity ag said:

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deddog said:

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I feel like there are some folks in this thread that didn't ever realize the US Gov revokes VISAs and Green Cards for the ****tiest of reasons, including their own mistakes.

It's been happening for years.
You have freedom to speak.
The government can revoke your VISA. If you are on a Visa, choose what you do wisely.

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Yep. Pretty logical.

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Dude, I had a Mustang and for 7 years didn't speed in it. Do you know how hard that is?
Until i got my Green card.

Then i sped to the nearest Social Security office . That's a joke for any DOGE or FBI
guys watching this thread.