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I just thought it was going to allow students to do private, switch districts, or better able to home school. Like the money would move with you depending on your choice. I'm not sure why that's a hard concept to put to a bill. If my student isn't going to public school, then my school tax should come back to me. They wouldn't be a burden to the district, so there's really no money lost.

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Yeah but how much money and who is gonna insure you are actually teaching the kid anything and not.just pocketing the money and creating an even bigger burden on society.

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These bills do not allow for the ability to pocket the money. It goes straight from the comptroller to the vendor.

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Oh I'm fully aware of that. That's why my wife and I will be opening a school that teaches jack **** to kids and insures they will get their diploma no matter what. Turns out, I have a waiting list.

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Good luck in the accreditation process.

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Oh, so who's gonna establish the guidelines for the accreditation process?

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I am not knowledgeable on the topic of accreditation but there are already accreditation organizations (TEPSAC for one) and processes already in place; it's how schools get accredited currently.

Our Texas GOP absolutely needs to be cleaned out. I'm appalled and sick with what they are trying to do this session.

S.J.R. 34 is a constitutional amendment that unanimously made it through the Senate.

The amendment says: "Parents have the inherent right to exercise care, custody and control of the parent's child and to make decisions for the upbringing of the parent's child". SHOULD stop here.

But no, it goes on to say: "The state or a political subdivision of this state shall not interfere with the rights of a parent described by Subsection (a) of this section unless the interference is: (1) essential to further a compelling governmental interest; and (2) narrowly tailored to accomplish that compelling
governmental interest."

WHAT is a "compelling governmental interest"? HOW is this defined??

We MUST ask our House Reps to vote "NO"!

And, if this does go on the ballot, WE MUST vote "No" in November!

Also, get rid of these Reps. Seriously.

https://instagr.am/p/DFOn45GypNP

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Our Texas GOP absolutely needs to be cleaned out. I'm appalled and sick with what they are trying to do this session.

S.J.R. 34 is a constitutional amendment that unanimously made it through the Senate.

The amendment says: "Parents have the inherent right to exercise care, custody and control of the parent's child and to make decisions for the upbringing of the parent's child". SHOULD stop here.

But no, it goes on to say: "The state or a political subdivision of this state shall not interfere with the rights of a parent described by Subsection (a) of this section unless the interference is: (1) essential to further a compelling governmental interest; and (2) narrowly tailored to accomplish that compelling
governmental interest."

WHAT is a "compelling governmental interest"? HOW is this defined??

We MUST ask our House Reps to vote "NO"!

And, if this does go on the ballot, WE MUST vote "No" in November!

Also, get rid of these Reps. Seriously.

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I think this is to take trans kids away from parents if they want mutilate their kids

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Howdy, it is me! said:

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Our Texas GOP absolutely needs to be cleaned out. I'm appalled and sick with what they are trying to do this session.

S.J.R. 34 is a constitutional amendment that unanimously made it through the Senate.

The amendment says: "Parents have the inherent right to exercise care, custody and control of the parent's child and to make decisions for the upbringing of the parent's child". SHOULD stop here.

But no, it goes on to say: "The state or a political subdivision of this state shall not interfere with the rights of a parent described by Subsection (a) of this section unless the interference is: (1) essential to further a compelling governmental interest; and (2) narrowly tailored to accomplish that compelling
governmental interest."

WHAT is a "compelling governmental interest"? HOW is this defined??

We MUST ask our House Reps to vote "NO"!

And, if this does go on the ballot, WE MUST vote "No" in November!

Also, get rid of these Reps. Seriously.

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I think this is to take trans kids away from parents if they want mutilate their kids

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And when the Democrats finally make Texas blue, then what will it be used for?

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Aggie97 said:

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Our Texas GOP absolutely needs to be cleaned out. I'm appalled and sick with what they are trying to do this session.

S.J.R. 34 is a constitutional amendment that unanimously made it through the Senate.

The amendment says: "Parents have the inherent right to exercise care, custody and control of the parent's child and to make decisions for the upbringing of the parent's child". SHOULD stop here.

But no, it goes on to say: "The state or a political subdivision of this state shall not interfere with the rights of a parent described by Subsection (a) of this section unless the interference is: (1) essential to further a compelling governmental interest; and (2) narrowly tailored to accomplish that compelling
governmental interest."

WHAT is a "compelling governmental interest"? HOW is this defined??

We MUST ask our House Reps to vote "NO"!

And, if this does go on the ballot, WE MUST vote "No" in November!

Also, get rid of these Reps. Seriously.

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I think this is to take trans kids away from parents if they want mutilate their kids

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And when the Democrats finally make Texas blue, then what will it be used for?

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I agree with you. This opens up a huge can of worms. This bill smells of Dan Patrick

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Aggie97 said:

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Howdy, it is me! said:

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Our Texas GOP absolutely needs to be cleaned out. I'm appalled and sick with what they are trying to do this session.

S.J.R. 34 is a constitutional amendment that unanimously made it through the Senate.

The amendment says: "Parents have the inherent right to exercise care, custody and control of the parent's child and to make decisions for the upbringing of the parent's child". SHOULD stop here.

But no, it goes on to say: "The state or a political subdivision of this state shall not interfere with the rights of a parent described by Subsection (a) of this section unless the interference is: (1) essential to further a compelling governmental interest; and (2) narrowly tailored to accomplish that compelling
governmental interest."

WHAT is a "compelling governmental interest"? HOW is this defined??

We MUST ask our House Reps to vote "NO"!

And, if this does go on the ballot, WE MUST vote "No" in November!

Also, get rid of these Reps. Seriously.

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I think this is to take trans kids away from parents if they want mutilate their kids

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And when the Democrats finally make Texas blue, then what will it be used for?

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I agree with you. This opens up a huge can of worms. This bill smells of Dan Patrick

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I seriously find myself in a bit of shock and denial at how NOT conservative the Texas GOP actually is…

So glad to find a like-minded individual…

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I just thought it was going to allow students to do private, switch districts, or better able to home school. Like the money would move with you depending on your choice. I'm not sure why that's a hard concept to put to a bill. If my student isn't going to public school, then my school tax should come back to me. They wouldn't be a burden to the district, so there's really no money lost.

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Yeah but how much money and who is gonna insure you are actually teaching the kid anything and not.just pocketing the money and creating an even bigger burden on society.

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These bills do not allow for the ability to pocket the money. It goes straight from the comptroller to the vendor.

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Oh I'm fully aware of that. That's why my wife and I will be opening a school that teaches jack **** to kids and insures they will get their diploma no matter what. Turns out, I have a waiting list.

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Good luck in the accreditation process.

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Oh, so who's gonna establish the guidelines for the accreditation process?

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I am not knowledgeable on the topic of accreditation but there are already accreditation organizations (TEPSAC for one) and processes already in place; it's how schools get accredited currently.

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Ok cool. It means nothing.

In Texas, private schools are not required to be accredited by the state. However, the Texas Private School Accreditation Commission (TEPSAC) and the Texas Private Schools Association highly recommend it. Accreditation ensures that private schools meet or exceed the standards of public schools.

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I just thought it was going to allow students to do private, switch districts, or better able to home school. Like the money would move with you depending on your choice. I'm not sure why that's a hard concept to put to a bill. If my student isn't going to public school, then my school tax should come back to me. They wouldn't be a burden to the district, so there's really no money lost.

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Yeah but how much money and who is gonna insure you are actually teaching the kid anything and not.just pocketing the money and creating an even bigger burden on society.

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These bills do not allow for the ability to pocket the money. It goes straight from the comptroller to the vendor.

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Oh I'm fully aware of that. That's why my wife and I will be opening a school that teaches jack **** to kids and insures they will get their diploma no matter what. Turns out, I have a waiting list.

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Good luck in the accreditation process.

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Oh, so who's gonna establish the guidelines for the accreditation process?

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I am not knowledgeable on the topic of accreditation but there are already accreditation organizations (TEPSAC for one) and processes already in place; it's how schools get accredited currently.

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Ok cool. It means nothing.

In Texas, private schools are not required to be accredited by the state. However, the Texas Private School Accreditation Commission (TEPSAC) and the Texas Private Schools Association highly recommend it. Accreditation ensures that private schools meet or exceed the standards of public schools.

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Right, they don't have to be accredited; however, if they want to participate in the ESA program, they must be.

This is getting interesting. For the first time, the Chairman of the public ed house committee changed the process for presenting the "runs" on the bill. The impact of the bill on school districts. Dollars. Instead of the typical posting online for all ISD's to access and provide feedback, they are only making hard copies available tonight to state reps. And the house floor debate is scheduled for tomorrow or Wednesday. An interesting tactic, and in reading, unprecedented..

There are also reports that a number of Republicans are pushing back against support in the manner of wanting it to be on the November ballot for the people of Texas to vote on. Apparently the Governor is not happy with this.
11th hour drama. Which is usual.

Abbot's group keeps pointing to a very poorly worded survey on a previous ballot. It mentioned school choice. Nothing about dollars. Abbot will do everything he can for this to not become a ballot issue. He knows it will go down in flames. What he has allowed to happen to public schools for his pet project, should keep him from getting re-elected. Likely won't, but it should

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This is getting interesting. For the first time, the Chairman of the public ed house committee changed the process for presenting the "runs" on the bill. The impact of the bill on school districts. Dollars. Instead of the typical posting online for all ISD's to access and provide feedback, they are only making hard copies available tonight to state reps. And the house floor debate is scheduled for tomorrow or Wednesday. An interesting tactic, and in reading, unprecedented..

There are also reports that a number of Republicans are pushing back against support in the manner of wanting it to be on the November ballot for the people of Texas to vote on. Apparently the Governor is not happy with this.
11th hour drama. Which is usual.

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STAAR testing this week…so pub ed can't really come out and protest…it's all games. Infuriating.

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This is getting interesting. For the first time, the Chairman of the public ed house committee changed the process for presenting the "runs" on the bill. The impact of the bill on school districts. Dollars. Instead of the typical posting online for all ISD's to access and provide feedback, they are only making hard copies available tonight to state reps. And the house floor debate is scheduled for tomorrow or Wednesday. An interesting tactic, and in reading, unprecedented..

There are also reports that a number of Republicans are pushing back against support in the manner of wanting it to be on the November ballot for the people of Texas to vote on. Apparently the Governor is not happy with this.
11th hour drama. Which is usual.

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STAAR testing this week…so pub ed can't really come out and protest…it's all games. Infuriating.

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Honestly, for how many school bond referendums are purposefully on days to allow maximum beneficiary participation and minimum tax payer turnout, I find this move hilariously ironic and brilliant politics.

The teaching industry has no ground to stand on here.

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This is getting interesting. For the first time, the Chairman of the public ed house committee changed the process for presenting the "runs" on the bill. The impact of the bill on school districts. Dollars. Instead of the typical posting online for all ISD's to access and provide feedback, they are only making hard copies available tonight to state reps. And the house floor debate is scheduled for tomorrow or Wednesday. An interesting tactic, and in reading, unprecedented..

There are also reports that a number of Republicans are pushing back against support in the manner of wanting it to be on the November ballot for the people of Texas to vote on. Apparently the Governor is not happy with this.
11th hour drama. Which is usual.

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STAAR testing this week…so pub ed can't really come out and protest…it's all games. Infuriating.

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Honestly, for how many school bond referendums are purposefully on days to allow maximum beneficiary participation and minimum tax payer turnout, I find this move hilariously ironic and brilliant politics.

The teaching industry has no ground to stand on here.

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Brad Buckley's wife is high in administration at Killeen ISD. He knows what schools are up to. I maintain that he has no intention of a school choice bill passing.

School choice will either die or be severely limited for the same reason that Top 10% isn't ever changing in Texas. Rural republicans and urban democrats can unite to screw over suburbanite families.

Same collectivist energy to keep their unearned spots open.

Abbot will eventually get his way or funding for public schools will be in jeopardy again. His re-election will likely be as well

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Unpainted Huffines going to beat him? Beto up again? Or abortion Barbie?

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Abbot will eventually get his way or funding for public schools will be in jeopardy again. His re-election will likely be as well

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He will hold funding hostage until he gets his way. Sad that he's basically unchallenged and the public is not informed as to what his aims are.

We'll see. I think he's pushed voters too far. He's sitting on a massive surplus again and likely will get nothing of substance done. I say that as a lifelong republican

Sorry, but when you'd vote Dem over Abbott, you are a lifelong RINO. Don't mean to be offensive when I say that, that's just the way it is!

I didn't say I would vote democrat. You assumed that

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Sorry, but when you'd vote Dem over Abbott, you are a lifelong RINO. Don't mean to be offensive when I say that, that's just the way it is!

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Oh yes, the classic F16: If you're not lock-step with Dan Patrick and a Tea Party/Religious extremist, you're a RINO/Liberal/marxist. That never gets old.

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Sorry, but when you'd vote Dem over Abbott, you are a lifelong RINO. Don't mean to be offensive when I say that, that's just the way it is!

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"If you don't vote the way I want, you're an ad hominem attack!!"

Tell me the difference right now between you and the leftists you detest? You're emulating their behavior.

If you would rather vote for any Democrat over Greg Abbott, then you were not a real Republican. Sorry if that offends, it's just the facts!

If he had said he won't vote for Abbott, I'd get that. But voting Dem? That's the VERY definition of being a RINO!

It's not "ad hominem". It is directly related to this issue we are discussing!

His wife is the Asst. Superintendent of that ISD.

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Btw: I will be voting against Abbot even if I have to vote democrat for the first time in my life.

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Your words.

Apparently you've never heard of Primaries or write in votes? You said I was going to vote democrat. I did not.

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If you would rather vote for any Democrat over Greg Abbott, then you were not a real Republican. Sorry if that offends, it's just the facts!

If he had said he won't vote for Abbott, I'd get that. But voting Dem? That's the VERY definition of being a RINO!

It's not "ad hominem". It is directly related to this issue we are discussing!

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He said he'd vote for anyone but Abbott. That doesn't make him a 'RINO' (or any other moniker you want to bestow on him that you'll claim is not an ad hominem attack), it makes him anti-Abbott.

You're emulating the leftists!!! The only difference is instead of calling him a fascist because he doesn't vote in lockstep with your ideology, you call him a RINO.

He literally says he'd vote Dem. Read.

You are correct. I did say that. Should read what I type before sending. I still don't consider myself a Rhino, but will admit when I'm wrong. And I'm obviously wrong here

I'll accept that! Fair enough!

Republicans in our great state don't even realize they've been played. The Gov got his campaign funding (big money) from the school choice super PACs, so now that's his pet issue. No other issue is as important to him. He then convinced other GOP hardliners that it's the most important issue.

So he's called multiple special sessions for vouchers, went on a primary war path going after any GOP rep that dared to listen to their constituents on the issue, and is trying to strong arm it again this session.

Once again, if it's such a popular issue with such widespread support…then put it on the freaking ballot and let the people of the state of Texas decide. I won't say another word about vouchers here if we pass a constitutional amendment, I'll accept the will of the people. But currently, it's the will of Abbott and his billionaire donors, along with the hardliners that he's either snowed or who are also on the take from the PACs.

Pretty good summary. Meanwhile he's starved public schools and basically treated the public school system as an afterthought.

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Meanwhile he's starved public schools

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Genuine question: what is the current funding and how does it compare to prior years?

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Pretty good summary. Meanwhile he's starved public schools and basically treated the public school system as an afterthought.

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LOL

Funding for Texas public schools is at an all-time high of over $85 billion! The Texas Legislature will invest $8 billion more this session.