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IF this is true, Pete is a f****** moron.

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There's a picture of him posing in front of the WTC memorial wearing nothing but his skivvies. Are you really surprised? The guy screamed unprofessional, but Trump was enamored with him for whatever reason. DeSantis would have been a much better pick for the position.

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Are you serious? He was raising money supporting the SEAL Foundation.

https://nypost.com/2023/08/22/the-sixth-annual-navy-seal-foundation-new-york-city-seal-swim/

"I heard it from every soldier I spoke with for this book, dozens and dozens. They don't agree on everything. But the one thing they do agree on is that US military leadership has an integrity and accountability problem."
- Pete Hegseth, 'The War on Warriors' (2024)

The media and deep state will not stop until he leaves because he is effective and has moral compass.

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And brown-nosing fox host ad hominem aside, we both know why Hegseth was chosen... To clean out the political riff raff that allowed mission drift of the Pentagon as a whole from a fighting force to a DEI experience.

He's doing that. And we're seeing the expected whining as a result.

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this is obviously untrue, considering hegseth himself is the poster child of DEI hires

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I'm guessing you don't know what DEI means…. Sometimes I can't even begin to understand how incredibly moronic these comments are…. Or where they come from.

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The media and deep state will not stop until he leaves because he is effective and has moral compass.

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This is the issue. The libs and the left absolutely cannot stand somebody that actually does have morals being in power.

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Old McDonald said:

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jrdaustin said:

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And brown-nosing fox host ad hominem aside, we both know why Hegseth was chosen... To clean out the political riff raff that allowed mission drift of the Pentagon as a whole from a fighting force to a DEI experience.

He's doing that. And we're seeing the expected whining as a result.

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this is obviously untrue, considering hegseth himself is the poster child of DEI hires

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I'm guessing you don't know what DEI means…. Sometimes I can't even begin to understand how incredibly moronic these comments are…. Or where they come from.

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unqualified person hired to a position because of a favored characteristic unrelated to their actual ability to perform the job? yeah that's hegseth to a tee.

You completely left off the D E and I parts! Lol

Secretary Hegseth dismisses new group chat allegations: 'None of this is based in reality' https://www.foxnews.com/video/6371789239112

I challenge everyone to click the link and watch the video in its entirety.

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BullHaulAg said:

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The media and deep state will not stop until he leaves because he is effective and has moral compass.

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This is the issue. The libs and the left absolutely cannot stand somebody that actually does have morals being in power.

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lmao it is so hard to tell what is real and what is satire these days.

It's really not. It just takes a bit of common sense.

What is the problem, is today, common sense just gets ignored.

I guess because he's not fat and wearing a full head Covid face shield, he's not qualified.

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Were you just as upset when Jill Biden ran presidential meetings?

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Yep, I think Biden was clearly unfit mentally as a POTUS.

But that would be an entirely separate topic from opining whether Pete Hegseth is competent as a SECDEF. A 'Whatsboutism' rabbit hole.

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I knew you come back with that, but since we don't know exactly what happened yet. Why don't we see what actually happened?

Also, the Democrats didn't seem to have a problem with Joe Biden, running meetings.

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I just wish the libs understood the term whataboutism. They use it all the time but haven't a clue what it means. Pointing out hypocrisy is not whataboutism.

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That is an important distinction. If you can point out a previous comment by an individual that's at odds with what they are now arguing, that is pointing out hypocrisy.

Whataboutism is the art of deflecting the conversation by assuming the person you're debating held another position on another topic at some point in the past.

If someone makes a claim about Trump, I think it's fair game to bring up their previous positions about Biden. But to simply deflect the conversation to Biden without demonstrating any hypocrisy is whataboutism. I could also call it thread derailing.

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Sorry, but in today's political climate, the attempt to hold an opponent accountable for the same type of action that resulted in your silence regarding an ally, is ALSO pointing out hypocricy. One could argue that a question of semantics regarding whataboutism it itself a thread derail.

Those crying for Hegseth's head are simply looking for a scalp. IF this is an indescretion (which itself I question), it is simply a regurgitation of the same event of the original SignalGate - which ultimately resulted in a successful mission with no lives lost.

I personally am not concerned with Hegseth sharing this information with his wife (a reporter) and his brother (a DOD employee) on a secure channel. They seem to be much more careful with that information than many others in the Pentagon with clearance and an axe to grind....

My question for you: If you were able to get Hegseth fired, would you be satisfied? Or would you just move to the next in line and begin targeting Tulsi or RFKJ? I believe I know the answer.

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The answer to that question is that they would smell blood in the water and then start attacking another person in the administration. They'd probably do it with the same attack - claiming that Tulsi/RFK/Patel/Bondi/whomever made classifed calls on Signal - because it had been proven to work.

Look how many times they brought out the #BelieveWomen attacks...

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Old McDonald said:

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jrdaustin said:

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And brown-nosing fox host ad hominem aside, we both know why Hegseth was chosen... To clean out the political riff raff that allowed mission drift of the Pentagon as a whole from a fighting force to a DEI experience.

He's doing that. And we're seeing the expected whining as a result.

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this is obviously untrue, considering hegseth himself is the poster child of DEI hires

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I'm guessing you don't know what DEI means…. Sometimes I can't even begin to understand how incredibly moronic these comments are…. Or where they come from.

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unqualified person hired to a position because of a favored characteristic unrelated to their actual ability to perform the job? yeah that's hegseth to a tee.

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Yeah, 2 Bronze stars, 2 Commendation medals as a combat infantryman, Princeton undergraduate degree. Masters in Public Policy from Harvard…. Joined the military to serve the country because of 9/11. Totally unqualified….

No, to you and the left and the libs and the media, he is unqualified because he is not a member of the swamp….

The ignorance you have shown in this thread alone totally destroys anything you are trying to say. I love how you guys just say he is unqualified, but you always just completely ignore his actual qualifications.

He is unqualified to you because he has morals and ethics. Because he is merit based. And we all know how being merit based is like fingernails on a chalk board to you libs….

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All he knew about Hegseth was that he was on the Fox News channel. I'm pretty sure he thought that his only qualification was being a talking head for the far-FAR right...

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Old McDonald said:

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jrdaustin said:

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And brown-nosing fox host ad hominem aside, we both know why Hegseth was chosen... To clean out the political riff raff that allowed mission drift of the Pentagon as a whole from a fighting force to a DEI experience.

He's doing that. And we're seeing the expected whining as a result.

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this is obviously untrue, considering hegseth himself is the poster child of DEI hires

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I'm guessing you don't know what DEI means…. Sometimes I can't even begin to understand how incredibly moronic these comments are…. Or where they come from.

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unqualified person hired to a position because of a favored characteristic unrelated to their actual ability to perform the job? yeah that's hegseth to a tee.

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Please tell me all the qualifications you know about him...

Why EXACTLY are his qualifications not acceptable?

Doesn't look like Darth Vader? Unqualified.

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Doesn't look like Darth Vader? Unqualified.

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He's not a POC...makes him totally unqualified.

what experience does hegseth have leading large organizations or military units? what about large-scale crisis management?

but he went to harvard and served in the military! okay, so did pete buttigieg

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what experience does hegseth have leading large organizations or military units? what about large-scale crisis management?

but he went to harvard and served in the military! okay, so did pete buttigieg

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Except nobody wants to climb into a foxhole with Pete buttigieg, if you know what I mean.

I would say the bar for getting rid of a SecDef is pretty high considering the last one got 13 people killed in Afghanistan and disappeared into a hospital - twice - without telling anyone. A few emails ain't gonna get the job done here, I would hope. Trump needs to stick with Hegseth like he did with Kavanaugh. The lefties and the Swamp won't stop with just Hegseth but will turn to the next man up, which is RFK.

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Leading a large organization is the only qualification?

What large organization did Biden lead before he was POTUS? Hussein?

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Don't point out to that person that if running large orgs is a major qualifier, then POTUS has more combined experience than the previous 5 presidents combined.

The dude has credibility with the warfighters because he was one. He also has credibility with war veterans because he led groups that support them as well as changes in the VA.

He's also got a mission after seeing the deterioration in recruiting, the detrimental quotas based on superficial BS, the firing of thousands based on not taking experimental injections, the weakness projecting drag shows and trans sailors and soldiers dancing that have been used in marketing and recruiting over the previous few years, disinterested America-loving patriots seeing prior leadership in the military- including former Sec Def and former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs- thinking domestic terror from white boys is our nation's greatest threat and reading books about "white rage".

There's a lot broken that needs to be fixed to get priorities in order and Hegseth carries those messages very well. That's also why entrenched bureaucracy and America-hating commie democrats hate him and why their pravda media arm is programming the low IQ masses with fake news to think he's some sort of alcoholic buffoon who isn't up to the job.

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what experience does hegseth have leading large organizations or military units? what about large-scale crisis management?

but he went to harvard and served in the military! okay, so did pete buttigieg

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Again, the jokes write themselves.

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Old McDonald said:

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what experience does hegseth have leading large organizations or military units? what about large-scale crisis management?

but he went to harvard and served in the military! okay, so did pete buttigieg

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Except nobody wants to climb into a foxhole with Pete buttigieg, if you know what I mean.

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I remember OkAg44 - may he rest in peace - talking about being in WW2 and them having to sleep huddled together for warmth. Do you freeze or do you huddle with Pothole Pete?

So why did he hire so many sips?

That's a valid criticism, imho. Doesn't make the headlines or grind gears around DC/NYC though.

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what experience does hegseth have leading large organizations or military units? what about large-scale crisis management?

but he went to harvard and served in the military! okay, so did pete buttigieg

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Went to PRINCETON, and THEN Harvard...and was an O-4

He was also Executive Director of Vets for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America. So he had led organizations before.

And Pete Buttigieg (O-2) was Secretary of Transportion after his other huge job - Mayor of South Bend. I don't remember you complaining about his qualifications for those 4 years. (I don't remember because you never did).

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Old McDonald said:

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what experience does hegseth have leading large organizations or military units? what about large-scale crisis management?

but he went to harvard and served in the military! okay, so did pete buttigieg

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Went to PRINCETON, and THEN Harvard...and was an O-4

He was also Executive Director of Vets for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America. So he had led organizations before.

And Pete Buttigieg (O-2) was Secretary of Transportion after his other huge job - Mayor of South Bend. I don't remember you complaining about his qualifications for those 4 years. (I don't remember because you never did).

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Just another example of pure hypocrisy from the left, the libs, and the dems….

And in every measure Mayor Pete was a failure as the mayor of a town with a population of 100,000…..

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Ag with kids said:

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Old McDonald said:

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what experience does hegseth have leading large organizations or military units? what about large-scale crisis management?

but he went to harvard and served in the military! okay, so did pete buttigieg

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Went to PRINCETON, and THEN Harvard...and was an O-4

He was also Executive Director of Vets for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America. So he had led organizations before.

And Pete Buttigieg (O-2) was Secretary of Transportion after his other huge job - Mayor of South Bend. I don't remember you complaining about his qualifications for those 4 years. (I don't remember because you never did).

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Just another example of pure hypocrisy from the left, the libs, and the dems….

And in every measure Mayor Pete was a failure as the mayor of a town with a population of 100,000…..

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Speaking of DEI hires...a complete chest-feeding failure as Secretary of Transportation. Absolute clown show that was never criticized by the left for his ineptitude.