Mother of NBC's Savannah Guthrie Missing

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From what I understand, the ransom notes give no method of contacting the "kidnappers " so they have to put out messages like this.
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Ramdiesel said:

jja79 said:

It's the first stop inside the United States for millions of Biden's illegals.


I wonder if this will sway any DEMs opinion of ICE and immigration enforcement if it turns out to be a Mexican gang that took her?

I think it's highly probable that it is a Mexican gang because it is a familiar sort of theme with them in Arizona to hold people for ransom, just usually not white American Citizens. This might have been to easy a scenario for them to pass up though.. She should have been living in a much more secure gated community given who her daughter is...


You know it won't change anything. How many women have been raped/killed by illegals in the past couple years. The left does not care.
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Well I wonder if these so called criminals are really asking for payment in Bitcoin, because I believe this will be their downfall. A lot of people are still under the impression that Bitcoin is secure and untraceable. Bitcoin is very traceable. All transactions are recorded on a public, immutable ledger some call it a blockchain that anyone can view. While transactions do not list names, they use pseudonymous wallet addresses, which law enforcement and forensics tools can analyze to link to real world identities, especially when funds pass through regulated exchanges. Every single Bitcoin transaction, including the sender and recipient addresses, is visible on the blockchain. I don't give a damn what the online wannabe experts say, Bitcoin is not truly anonymous; it is pseudonymous. Even though you can create a wallet without providing your real name, your transaction history can be traced and linked back to you if you use your wallet on a regulated platform. Think whatever or believe whatever you may attempt to obscure your identity using privacy enhancing tools like mixers, but these do not guarantee total anonymity from advanced forensics lice the government has and uses. They are tracing Bitcoin criminals all the damn time. I'm still under the belief this poor lady is dead and it's never been about returning her, it's always been about the Benjamins

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Sounds like they know she's deceased and are asking for her remains
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Razzlekhan and her idiot husband stole almost $10 billion in Bitcoin and they never could cash it out without getting caught. They were limited to small time smurfing using gifts cards purchased with the Bitcoin.
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so this appears to be professional

possibly in Mexico then
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apparently the sheriff attended the Oklahoma State-Arizona basketball game today

(according to FOX)

must be his day off
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I'm watching Surviving the Survivor. They were questioning if kidnapper left the camera on the roof.
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That sounds like they have received a proof of life? Especially the "this is very valuable to us" comment.

That's what they asked for in the last video, and it sounds like the ransom thing might have some legs. That was a direct response. I dont know what to think anymore.
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Someone else said perhaps they want her remains.
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MsDoubleD81 said:

Someone else said perhaps they want her remains.

Oof. yeah, after rewatching it with that perspective, definitely fits.

The "celebrate with her" is somewhat of a mixed message, though. It wasn't "celebrate her" it was "celebrate with her".
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Celebrate with her makes it sound like she's alive, but that message could definitely be taken either way. This could very well be a ransom for remains
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I will say this - I don't think I could bring myself to pay for a body. If she's dead, it's a shell. We cremated my parents. Her soul is gone. Instead, I would be going full Mel Gibson Ransom.
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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I still think its the Son in Law and the letters are someone trying scam them or the Son in law is behind that too
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What is the son's occupation? Could have a beef with him and looked for retaliation?
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Anti-taxxer - thanks
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W said:

apparently the sheriff attended the Oklahoma State-Arizona basketball game today

(according to FOX)

must be his day off


FBI missing persons team is on this. What is it the pearl clutchers think the sheriff should be doing?
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Anyone heard of JLR investigates? Supposedly law enforcement is at Annie's home taking photos.
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I think it is either cartel from Mexico or the sister's husband.
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

nortex97 said:

That's what I thought. Looks like the one I have in the back yard, but the new ones are wireless.

Apparently it was her neighbor that pointed out the obvious camera on the chimney. I'd have thought Savannah and her sister would have awareness of the device(s) and apps their mother used for security.

The whole thing is just so weird I can't figure out a likely scenario at all.

I think they are misreporting it as wired, the only wire I see it the power cord from the solar panel



That camera kit looks as authentic as the tents handed out at a Pro Palestine rally (ie fresh out of the box)

Possibly this is just psyops to draw out the kidnappers.
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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Pima County Sheriff's Department seen carrying what appears to be a hard sided evidence case alongside a brown paper bag after taking photos inside Annie Guthrie's home for three hours a week into this crime and in the middle of the night? What other reason could there be for them to GO BACK inside of Annie 's home, at night, for three hours?? DO they suspect Nancy Guthrie never left that house? This is really strange.

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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Local station KGUN is reporting the ransom amount for Nancy Guthrie is $6 million dollars.

"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

Pima County Sheriff's Department seen carrying what appears to be a hard sided evidence case alongside a brown paper bag after taking photos inside Annie Guthrie's home for three hours a week into this crime and in the middle of the night? What other reason could there be for them to GO BACK inside of Annie 's home, at night, for three hours?? DO they suspect Nancy Guthrie never left that house? This is really strange.



Looks like a small folding table.
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Is the mob in Italy still a thing? Kidnappings for ransom were an industry in Italy from the 60s thru the 90s. John Paul Getty III was kidnapped by the Ndranghetta mafia in Italy in the 70s. Tommaso was born in Italy in 75 and didn't emigrate to the US until he was in his 20s. Could he be working with them to steal millions from his SIL?
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Ryan the Temp said:

Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

Pima County Sheriff's Department seen carrying what appears to be a hard sided evidence case alongside a brown paper bag after taking photos inside Annie Guthrie's home for three hours a week into this crime and in the middle of the night? What other reason could there be for them to GO BACK inside of Annie 's home, at night, for three hours?? DO they suspect Nancy Guthrie never left that house? This is really strange.



Looks like a small folding table.


Thought the same thing.
Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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"We beg you know to return our mother to us, so we can 'celebrate' with her. This is the only way we will have peace. This is very valuable to us. And we will pay"


I'm sorry but this woman is dead. "Celebrate" is in my mind is Celebration of life, now days that is how the majority of people refer to a funeral these days. "This the only way we will have peace" this is closure, they want her remains returned.



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This whole thing seems fishy to me. Why would you kidnap an old lady you have to keep medicated and fed for 6 million? Not including her daughter works for a major media company, so you know it's going to get major attention. Kidnapping for a ransom is such a 3rd world country thing due to the issues with it being able to be tracked (digitally, gps tracker, surveillance). You could kidnap some unknown rich persons kid with less hassle.
 
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